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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 12:38 did josh deal boar testicles?

dont know i play with mine when bored

so are we all assuming aj hasnt taking a ped in his life dont get high on your own supply hugh , hmmm any one else lift weights here real fighters looked like ali or gerry cooney not like evander, or mike not like the klitschkos lewis or haye they look like david price ill bet my house he is a natty , there no way you can build muscle like any thing at that weight whilest being a pro boxer, and remerber not all peds are for muscle building there for recovery, but mexican beef seems to be the thing to eat

iam a fury fan , boooo i cant remember the corny term team fury sounds wa.. what was it help please ,drugs is part of the game i would be huge hypocrite to condemn drugs , we cant escape it in any sport, lets face it why are sports stars going well into there 30s now, and also tyson wins cause he is 6ft 9 and can move that is the biggest problem for anyone

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 12:48 so are we all assuming aj hasnt taking a ped in his life dont get high on your own supply hugh , hmmm any one else lift weights here real fighters looked like ali or gerry cooney not like evander, or mike not like the klitschkos lewis or haye they look like david price ill bet my house he is a natty , there no way you can build muscle like any thing at that weight whilest being a pro boxer, and remerber not all peds are for muscle building there for recovery, but mexican beef seems to be the thing to eat

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with Nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

I think the big tells of test and steroid abuse is suddenly packing on muscle very quickly at a point when you probably should have already reached your natural peak - hello Deontay Wilder! AJ has done a few packing on and stripping off of muscle routines. If that was entirely natural the muscle wouldn’t just melt off like that, as it actually takes about 4 times less effort to maintain muscle than build it.

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:05

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 12:48 so are we all assuming aj hasnt taking a ped in his life dont get high on your own supply hugh , hmmm any one else lift weights here real fighters looked like ali or gerry cooney not like evander, or mike not like the klitschkos lewis or haye they look like david price ill bet my house he is a natty , there no way you can build muscle like any thing at that weight whilest being a pro boxer, and remerber not all peds are for muscle building there for recovery, but mexican beef seems to be the thing to eat

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

agree its only when fighters need to bulk up to heavier weight its easier to see because its genes thats why most heavy weights in a bygone era looked puffy chubby not ripped with a full 6 pack , and recovery is the most important thing not what you look like ,thats why footballers (scorer players) got away with it , not saying anything but that bara and spain team had such a high work rate closing players down , if i barbell squat next day at work i find very hard to bend down or if i military press i find it hard to hoover my stairs the next days

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:15

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:05

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 12:48 so are we all assuming aj hasnt taking a ped in his life dont get high on your own supply hugh , hmmm any one else lift weights here real fighters looked like ali or gerry cooney not like evander, or mike not like the klitschkos lewis or haye they look like david price ill bet my house he is a natty , there no way you can build muscle like any thing at that weight whilest being a pro boxer, and remerber not all peds are for muscle building there for recovery, but mexican beef seems to be the thing to eat

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

agree its only when fighters need to bulk up to heavier weight its easier to see because its genes thats why most heavy weights in a bygone era looked puffy chubby not ripped with a full 6 pack , and recovery is the most important thing not what you look like ,thats why footballers (scorer players) got away with it , not saying anything but that bara and spain team had such a high work rate closing players down , if i barbell squat next day at work i find very bend down or military press i find it hard to hoover my stairs the next days

I’m the same. Our volume of training (and more importantly intensity) will suffer, and we need more rest. The PED head can keep blasting through the training. Their muscles will get stronger at such an accelerated rate often their tendon development can’t keep pace, and for some that can cause a lot of long term pain for unlucky ones.

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:05

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 12:48 so are we all assuming aj hasnt taking a ped in his life dont get high on your own supply hugh , hmmm any one else lift weights here real fighters looked like ali or gerry cooney not like evander, or mike not like the klitschkos lewis or haye they look like david price ill bet my house he is a natty , there no way you can build muscle like any thing at that weight whilest being a pro boxer, and remerber not all peds are for muscle building there for recovery, but mexican beef seems to be the thing to eat

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with Nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

I think the big tells of test and steroid abuse is suddenly packing on muscle very quickly at a point when you probably should have already reached your natural peak - hello Deontay Wilder! AJ has done a few packing on and stripping off of muscle routines. If that was entirely natural the muscle wouldn’t just melt off like that, as it actually takes about 4 times less effort to maintain muscle than build it.

yeah just wrote the same thing mate i remember bulking to about 14 st 7 pounds nearly 95kg my natural weight is problay near 12stone 5 at the time and iam 6ft only after lifting did i look like i lifted with the pump after i looked fat, also it felt so unnatural with the that weight shin splints felt like i was carrying a back pack with weight plates walking up stairs cause i wasnt natural to that weight i was eating 5500 calories and was sick of the sight of food , and i was eating clean , thats why i know when i see ripped fighters at what 13 percent body fat weighing so heavy, i think khan when he bulked looked natty as he looked a bit flabby man boobs no disrespect but that is real in short time, usyk not sure he had a lot of time to do it with the covid also has a big frame obliques wise but i dont any one

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:20

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:15

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:05

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

agree its only when fighters need to bulk up to heavier weight its easier to see because its genes thats why most heavy weights in a bygone era looked puffy chubby not ripped with a full 6 pack , and recovery is the most important thing not what you look like ,thats why footballers (scorer players) got away with it , not saying anything but that bara and spain team had such a high work rate closing players down , if i barbell squat next day at work i find very bend down or military press i find it hard to hoover my stairs the next days

I’m the same. Our volume of training (and more importantly intensity) will suffer, and we need more rest. The PED head can keep blasting through the training. Their muscles will get stronger at such an accelerated rate often their tendon development can’t keep pace, and for some that can cause a lot of long term pain for unlucky ones.

yea tendons big thing took my tendons ages to catch up with my muscles like bench pressing when i first started bench all day then my wrists put a stop to that, also i find traps can be a killer you know the pain which feels coming fom back of your brain kicks in with pull ups or when straining anything, thats why i always very suspicious of fighters like saul, kel l brook as weights are so taxing to the body

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:27

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:05

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 12:48 so are we all assuming aj hasnt taking a ped in his life dont get high on your own supply hugh , hmmm any one else lift weights here real fighters looked like ali or gerry cooney not like evander, or mike not like the klitschkos lewis or haye they look like david price ill bet my house he is a natty , there no way you can build muscle like any thing at that weight whilest being a pro boxer, and remerber not all peds are for muscle building there for recovery, but mexican beef seems to be the thing to eat

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with Nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

I think the big tells of test and steroid abuse is suddenly packing on muscle very quickly at a point when you probably should have already reached your natural peak - hello Deontay Wilder! AJ has done a few packing on and stripping off of muscle routines. If that was entirely natural the muscle wouldn’t just melt off like that, as it actually takes about 4 times less effort to maintain muscle than build it.

yeah just wrote the same thing mate i remember bulking to about 14 st 7 pounds nearly 95kg my natural weight is problay near 12stone 5 at the time and iam 6ft only after lifting did i look like i lifted with the pump after i looked fat, also it felt so unnatural with the that weight shin splints felt like i was carrying a back pack with weight plates walking up stairs cause i wasnt natural to that weight i was eating 5500 calories and was sick of the sight of food , and i was eating clean , thats why i know when i see ripped fighters at what 13 percent body fat weighing so heavy, i think khan when he bulked looked natty as he looked a bit flabby man boobs no disrespect but that is real in short time, usyk not sure he had a lot of time to do it with the covid also has a big frame obliques wise but i dont any one

Going slightly off topic what Wilder did was really daft for a lot of reasons going into the 2nd Fury fight. Bulking up like quickly that effectively resets your balance and timing and coordination. It takes a while to reset and adjust again. I think that more than the silly costume was the reason nothing really went right for him on the night. A cautionary tale of sorts.

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:38

brilo33 wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:27

polecateddy wrote: ↑14 Jan 2022, 13:05

I don’t think just doing muscle building weights is ideal for boxing. Probably the MMA cross training approach is best. You are right in terms of recovery PEDs are a huge advantage. Being able to literally train twice as much volume gets you to the destination twice as quick. Steroids like Nandrolone help cut weight without losing muscle, so that’s another huge plus. Do that natural and you will end up losing a lot of muscle first usually. I think that’s a big one in boxing as boxers are forever getting caught with Nandrolone and saying it was mysteriously in their food lol

I think the big tells of test and steroid abuse is suddenly packing on muscle very quickly at a point when you probably should have already reached your natural peak - hello Deontay Wilder! AJ has done a few packing on and stripping off of muscle routines. If that was entirely natural the muscle wouldn’t just melt off like that, as it actually takes about 4 times less effort to maintain muscle than build it.

yeah just wrote the same thing mate i remember bulking to about 14 st 7 pounds nearly 95kg my natural weight is problay near 12stone 5 at the time and iam 6ft only after lifting did i look like i lifted with the pump after i looked fat, also it felt so unnatural with the that weight shin splints felt like i was carrying a back pack with weight plates walking up stairs cause i wasnt natural to that weight i was eating 5500 calories and was sick of the sight of food , and i was eating clean , thats why i know when i see ripped fighters at what 13 percent body fat weighing so heavy, i think khan when he bulked looked natty as he looked a bit flabby man boobs no disrespect but that is real in short time, usyk not sure he had a lot of time to do it with the covid also has a big frame obliques wise but i dont any one

Going slightly off topic what Wilder did was really daft for a lot of reasons going into the 2nd Fury fight. Bulking up like quickly that effectively resets your balance and timing and coordination. It takes a while to reset and adjust again. I think that more than the silly costume was the reason nothing really went right for him on the night. A cautionary tale of sorts.

totally agree , i did a bulk from 12 st 5 to 14st 7 in about 2 months it felt so unnatural as it was like a new weight on you to get use to sitting and you can heart beat more like i wrote before, i agree your learning a new body in a sense

Fury has offered Joshua a world title fight whilst he waits on Usyk..

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 09:49 Fury has offered Joshua a world title fight whilst he waits on Usyk..

So does that make AJ the 4th boxer Fury’s challenged since he retired the most recent time?

maverick23 wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 10:24

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 09:49 Fury has offered Joshua a world title fight whilst he waits on Usyk..

So does that make AJ the 4th boxer Fury’s challenged since he retired the most recent time?

Let's count them..

Chisora, Usyk, Charr and AJ..

A fresh call out of AJ. What a bottlejob. He has bolted. Doesn't want anything to do with Uysk. I always admired Fury as a fighter but he bolted from a rematch with Klitschko and won't entertain Uysk.

Usyk has stated he won't be fighting until 2023 - and Fury wants to be out before year end.

Fury of course has no real desire to fight AJ - if AJ publicly accepted the offer then the terms would be ridiculous and no way AJ could accept them.

It's Fury being Fury and just attention seeking. Expect nobody more dangerous than Chisora to be wheeled in to be knocked over

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 09:49 Fury has offered Joshua a world title fight whilst he waits on Usyk..

more mind games from fury - basically making joshua a warm up for the title fight against usyk .
takin the piss really and should be ignored .

tonyevs wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 11:49 Usyk has stated he won't be fighting until 2023 - and Fury wants to be out before year end.

Fury of course has no real desire to fight AJ - if AJ publicly accepted the offer then the terms would be ridiculous and no way AJ could accept them.

It's Fury being Fury and just attention seeking. Expect nobody more dangerous than Chisora to be wheeled in to be knocked over

It will be interesting to see if Hearn and AJ entertain Fury's call out because they got messed about pretty badly by him last time when everything was set only for him to box Whyte instead.

But if the AJ- Fury fight gets made and is close, we can expect a rematch. I'm quite gutted for boxing. It's very hard to argue that Jake Paul etc are jokers when one of the Heavyweight champs ( Fury) has lost his nerve and swerves his best challenger.

Joshua has accepted!

I will never look at Fury in the same light now. He lost his nerve re Uysk. His ' Gypsy King' tag now rings hollow.

Tyson, light work

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑05 Sep 2022, 17:51 Joshua has accepted!

Noooo!!
Tyson is pulling your pud.

Doubt it will happen , i think Tyson is just being a dick , But too be honest , i've never been a big fan of Fury , sometimes found him very amusing , but don't believe this man of the people shite for one minuite ,, he's shown the loyalty of a snake with his trainers for years ,, , when other promoters would of just offered him fights that were 50-50 , in days gone by his loyal promoter shelled out good money to get him 70-30 fights , and was dropped like a hot potato .

I'm not now and never have been on the bandwagon , he dodged AJ a few years ago , he knew all along he was contracted to fight Wilder again ,,, his resume is'nt that great either ,, he beat an aging Klitchko and then dodged a rematch ,, known PED taker ,, he took on Wilder when really he only had two choices AJ or Wilder , so he picked the one who was definetly the least technical and worse boxer of the two , plays every card going to get publicity , mental health , giving his purse for charity (still waiting ) now calling out AJ ,, but apparantly AJ has proven once again he's got the balls to take on the best and accepted ,, Tyson will now end up with Chisora Fury has took two chances in his life Klitchko and Wilder ,, doubt he will take a third , he wants to fight in December because he knows in the new year when Usyk is ready to go feb or march , he has the perfect excuse , I've just fought , i won't be ready till June July .

Lets see if he takes it with AJ now he's called his bluff , and good on AJ , but we know the hold up already ,, its just gonna be , he's a big stiff weightlifter , he's a bum , he's lucky i'm offering him 2 mill , I'm the champ he's not getting equal money ,,, He's like a old comic , you just keep reading time and again , you just know the result , but for me fook him let him stay retired , becuase there are fights out there for him lets see him take them ,,

Long Shanks Tyson Fury, man of the people, will stutter step and bully his way through with his ring IQ .