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DrDuke wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 06:41

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 06:34 Fury has just said that Whyte would be his 6th best HW win.

How did he count Wilder? 1, 2 or 3 wins?

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:36 Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:54

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:36 Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 08:23

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:54

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:36 Anyone else see the clip of Fury saying he's glad Eddie never won purse bid because he couldn't pay for Kambosos/Lopez?

Suffice to say Umar IFL Umar shat the bed and never pulled him on it

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 09:10

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 08:23

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:54

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

I think, to be fair to Eddie, he is generally more honest and open than Frank or Bob, so IFL know they can push a bit more.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 09:10

handsofstone wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 08:23

maverick23 wrote: ↑13 Feb 2022, 07:54

I saw Umar try and have it with Eddie the other day over Umar people a pussy with other promoters - I wish Umar showed that fire with everyone. He compliments them far too much and doesn’t push at all. I guarantee he’ll be super positive about Frank’s Avanesyan card and say how stacked it is etc.

Yeh it's not that I think Eddie gets a particularly hard time from IFL in general, I'm all for probing questions, it's just that they don't push Frank or Bob nearly as hard

I think, to be fair to Eddie, he is generally more honest and open than Frank or Bob, so IFL know they can push a bit more.

TheGun13 wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 10:25 Fury and Frank are the types to throw their toys out of the pram if they get any kind of vaguely challenging questions, so the iFL lads are probably worried about getting cut off.

Also iFL are backed by Kinahan, so are probably instructed to lick Fury's arse at every opportunity.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑14 Feb 2022, 15:18 Frank has said Whyte is holding things up..

He has til the 19th to sign or they will move on.

He said Fury is fighting on April 23rd..

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:44 Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:59

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:44 Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 04:19

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:59

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:44 Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

handsofstone wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 04:42 Can't stand Whyte personally but if his refusal to do any promotion will effect the WBC's income then I would give zero effort as well, he got royally fvcked over by them

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 04:19

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:59

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:44 Rumours Whyte won’t engage in the promotion unless he gets more money.

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 05:31

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 04:19

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 03:59

I think it’s clever by Whyte.

Fury would hammer anyone if they did the gloves are off stuff or press conferences and I can also understand him not wanting to help the promotion because of the way Warren has spoken about him in the past.

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 06:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 05:31

Dioufy wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 04:19

I don’t like it and to me it shows a weakness as he’s changing the way he’s conducting himself because of who is opponent us.
I can see this fight not happening. Contracts aren’t even signed and the deadline is approaching.
Whyte seems a stubborn guy so maybe he thinks he will get more than 6mil fighting Usyk in 9 months.

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 06:44

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 06:32

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 05:31

Yh. If it was anyone else, he’d be all over it.

He won’t stay quiet at the presser when Fury digs into him.

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

TBH, I think the fight does decent numbers, regardless off how much they try and sell it. Of course promoting it more would be better.

Fury did 400k UK buys at daft o clock alone against Wilder.

His fan base has grown huge since he fought Wlad in 2015 was it? That did around 500k UK buys.

Add in that Whyte can do around 200k-400k against semi decent non PPV fighters.
This will be prime time UK television and Fury’s first fight in the UK as world champion.

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 06:53

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 06:44

maverick23 wrote: ↑15 Feb 2022, 06:32

All of his other big fights would have had a % deal on the back end based on tickets/PPVs sold so I get why he talks more for them.

Fury will try all he can, like he’s doing at the moment, to get a rise out of Whyte. I wonder if Whyte will even go to the press conference? I’d be surprised if he can avoid it during fight week but not sure whether he’ll be obliged to do an initial press conference.

If Whyte does nothing to promote it then Tyson will have to work hard for it as his deal will almost certainly be based on PPV numbers etc.

TBH, I think the fight does decent numbers, regardless off how much they try and sell it. Of course promoting it more would be better.

Fury did 400k UK buys at daft o clock alone against Wilder.

His fan base has grown huge since he fought Wlad in 2015 was it? That did around 500k UK buys.

Add in that Whyte can do around 200k-400k against semi decent non PPV fighters.
This will be prime time UK television and Fury’s first fight in the UK as world champion.

I’m sure it will do decent numbers over here but even a million buys and a decent gate doesn’t come close to paying the $41m or at least giving Fury his due share once the broadcasters take their cut etc.

Bob was talking 500k buys in the US on PPV. Fury is the biggest heavyweight name in the US but against Whyte who’s fairly unknown over there, outside of primetime and a week after another PPV I can’t see it doing 100k buys.