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Posted: 07 Nov 2007, 04:18
by computerrank
JCS wrote:JCS wrote:computerrank wrote:
Looks strange ... where did he get his 3 points from?
You tell me. :) I don't see how he got points. Even if he got any, why would he retain them?
I'll see if I can determine this shortly.
Martin,
On Version M. This boxer goes in as 0.38 points.
... bug found (current release is L_2):
- a losing boxer can erroneously gain points, even when defeated by KO, ...
- when the winner's pre-bout rating is not more than 50 points higher than the loser's
Will be fixed and tested over weekend ... thanks
Posted: 07 Nov 2007, 15:18
by JCS
Cobwebcat wrote:JCS wrote:Cob, here's your list.
Mayweather - 1117
Calzaghe - 754
Ottke - 517
Marciano - 1426
Hatton - 723
Cotto - 498
I've been tinkering with a rating system of my own.. here's my Top 20 Heavyweights
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Wladimir Klitschko 380
Ruslan Chagaev 277
Nikolay Valuev 242
Samuel Peter 185
Oleg Maskaev 176
Tony Thompson 156
Alexander Povetkin 154
Sultan Ibragimov 149
Matt Skelton 142
Eddie Chambers 133
Vladimir Virchis 122
Hasim Rahman 116
Lamon Brewster 111
Calvin Brock 111
Chris Byrd 107
Juan Carlos Gomez 100
John Ruiz 99
Shannon Briggs 89
Luan Krasniqi 87
Michael Sprott 87
ta. can't argue with your list..
I'm a bit more forgiving to the proven veterans who have lost. I give them some of their points back based on quality opposition.
My penalties are also less harsh.
An Updated Top 25.. after a bug fix
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Wladimir Klitschko 384
Ruslan Chagaev 278
Samuel Peter 248
Nikolay Valuev 243
Oleg Maskaev 188
Tony Thompson 160
Alexander Povetkin 158
Sultan Ibragimov 154
Matt Skelton 148
Eddie Chambers 136
Vladimir Virchis 126
Hasim Rahman 126
Lamon Brewster 114
Calvin Brock 113
Chris Byrd 109
James Toney 106
Juan Carlos Gomez 101
John Ruiz 100
Shannon Briggs 92
Luan Krasniqi 91
Michael Sprott 89
Ray Austin 89
Danny Williams 89
Alexander Dimitrenko 87
Chris Arreola 82
Posted: 10 Nov 2007, 13:04
by JCS
Martin,
Another idea. I know you take the "Rounds Scheduled" into account. What do you do when it is listed as 0? Do you have a logical default?
I would suggest using 6 in the current era.
Posted: 11 Nov 2007, 05:42
by computerrank
JCS wrote:Martin,
Another idea. I know you take the "Rounds Scheduled" into account. What do you do when it is listed as 0? Do you have a logical default?
I would suggest using 6 in the current era.
Rounds Scheduled do not matter.
Rounds Boxed are considered for the weight of the bout.
12 rounds or KO, TKO have full weight.
For decisions on points the relative weight of the bout is in relation of Rounds Boxed to 12 rounds.
If Rounds Boxed is unknown, 4 rounds are assumed.
Posted: 11 Nov 2007, 18:09
by computerrank
computerrank wrote:JCS wrote:JCS wrote:
You tell me. :) I don't see how he got points. Even if he got any, why would he retain them?
I'll see if I can determine this shortly.
... fixed release launched ...
Martin,
On Version M. This boxer goes in as 0.38 points.
... bug found (current release is L_2):
- a losing boxer can erroneously gain points, even when defeated by KO, ...
- when the winner's pre-bout rating is not more than 50 points higher than the loser's
Will be fixed and tested over weekend ... thanks
... fixed and launched ...
Posted: 11 Nov 2007, 18:59
by JCS
Cobwebcat wrote:JCS: Would you mind looking up Cotto's new all time rating value for me please. I'm assuming his victory over SSM has altered the value.
Ta

I must've sent you old values before as well
For actives
Cotto 549
Hatton 709
Calzaghe 821
Mayweather 1104
Posted: 14 Nov 2007, 22:18
by JCS
Surprised to see Castillejo well ahead of Sturm... How'd Carrera ever make Top 10?
Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 03:51
by computerrank
JCS wrote:Surprised to see Castillejo well ahead of Sturm... How'd Carrera ever make Top 10?
... yes, Carrera made Top 10 ... and Castillejo did TKO him ...
Posted: 15 Nov 2007, 20:12
by JCS
In my test rating system I have Sturm at #6, Castillejo at #8, and Carrera now at #65. But maybe I am the wrong one.
Middleweight
1 Kelly Pavlik
2 Jermain Taylor
3 Cory Spinks
4 Arthur Abraham
5 Roman Karmazin
6 Felix Sturm
7 Sebastian Sylvester
8 Javier Castillejo
9 Raymond Joval
10 Wayne Elcock
11 Ike Quartey
12 Nobuhiro Ishida
13 John Duddy
14 Randy Griffin
15 Gary Lockett
16 Sergio Mora
17 Howard Eastman
18 Amin Asikainen
19 Yuri Foreman
20 Sebastien Demers
Posted: 20 Nov 2007, 11:46
by computerrank
Cobwebcat wrote:I notice Tunney has gone to Number 1 in the all-time Heavyweight list overtaking Ali.
What changed?
... he had his achievements in light heavyweight ...
Posted: 20 Nov 2007, 12:30
by computerrank
Cobwebcat wrote:computerrank wrote:Cobwebcat wrote:I notice Tunney has gone to Number 1 in the all-time Heavyweight list overtaking Ali.
What changed?
... he had his achievements in light heavyweight ...
Oh ok so he's been moved weight category.
While I've got you posting....any timescale on the return of the all-time values?
... John seems to have no spare time ... other priorities ...
Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 11:21
by JCS
Martin,
Why is Kassim Ouma above Saul Roman, who he just lost to?
Posted: 22 Nov 2007, 18:02
by computerrank
JCS wrote:Martin,
Why is Kassim Ouma above Saul Roman, who he just lost to?
... the final division adjustion is done after calculating the the bout ...
maybe some influence from this ...
The bout wasn't assigned to light middleweight - but now is ...
lets look at this issue tomorrow ...
Posted: 27 Nov 2007, 03:43
by conan_the_cribber
Back from the dead.....
Posted: 02 Dec 2007, 15:44
by BoxBuzz
Cobwebcat wrote:Bringing back the longest thread !
Thank You!
Posted: 02 Dec 2007, 18:19
by sockdolager
I think this is the 3rd longest thread.
Posted: 03 Dec 2007, 06:08
by glittermonkey
Would it not be an idea to lock these threads over the weekend, as it seems that that's when Deca wants to cause his problems.
Posted: 03 Dec 2007, 10:26
by conan_the_cribber
Just posting so I can dig it up again after the next attack.
Posted: 03 Dec 2007, 10:54
by JCS
Here's my stab at computerized ratings..
Please ignore obvious retirees
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Results included up to December 1, 2007
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HEAVYWEIGHT - UNLIMITED
1 Wladimir Klitschko.............. 359
2 Ruslan Chagaev.................. 284
3 Nikolay Valuev.................. 248
4 Samuel Peter.................... 246
5 Oleg Maskaev.................... 217
6 Sultan Ibragimov................ 169
7 Tony Thompson................... 153
8 Alexander Povetkin.............. 143
9 Hasim Rahman.................... 142
10 Matt Skelton.................... 132
11 Eddie Chambers.................. 129
12 James Toney..................... 127
13 Vladimir Virchis................ 113
14 Calvin Brock.................... 109
15 John Ruiz....................... 103
16 Lamon Brewster.................. 101
17 Alexander Dimitrenko............ 92
18 Shannon Briggs.................. 91
19 Chris Byrd...................... 90
20 Ray Austin...................... 89
21 Jameel McCline.................. 88
22 Juan Carlos Gomez............... 85
23 Danny Williams.................. 85
24 Michael Sprott.................. 81
25 Chris Arreola................... 81
CRUISERWEIGHT - 200
1 David Haye...................... 114
2 O'Neil Bell..................... 89
3 Enzo Maccarinelli............... 83
4 Marco Huck...................... 69
5 Jean Marc Mormeck............... 69
6 Steve Cunningham................ 63
7 Firat Arslan.................... 58
8 Vincenzo Cantatore.............. 51
9 Vadim Tokarev................... 50
10 Rob Calloway.................... 49
11 Tomasz Adamek................... 49
12 Matt Godfrey.................... 48
13 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk............ 47
14 Darnell Wilson.................. 43
15 Johnathon Banks................. 41
16 Rudolf Kraj..................... 41
17 Grigory Drozd................... 39
18 Valery Brudov................... 37
19 Henry Maske..................... 36
20 Jean Marc Monrose............... 34
21 Mark Hobson..................... 34
22 Yoan Pablo Hernandez............ 33
23 Vassiliy Jirov.................. 33
24 Giacobbe Fragomeni.............. 32
25 Alexander Frenkel............... 31
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT - 175
1 Bernard Hopkins................. 467
2 Ronald Wright................... 212
3 Clinton Woods................... 200
4 Antonio Tarver.................. 194
5 Glen Johnson.................... 183
6 Roy Jones Jr.................... 137
7 Chad Dawson..................... 104
8 Zsolt Erdei..................... 86
9 Stipe Drews..................... 81
10 Elvir Muriqi.................... 74
11 Danny Green..................... 67
12 Paul Briggs..................... 63
13 Julio Cesar Gonzalez............ 61
14 Adrian Diaconu.................. 58
15 Thomas Ulrich................... 52
16 Tito Mendoza.................... 50
17 Montell Griffin................. 49
18 Silvio Branco................... 47
19 Jean Pascal..................... 47
20 Prince Badi Ajamu............... 47
21 Jorge Fernando Castro........... 41
22 Aleksy Kuziemski................ 38
23 Anthony Hanshaw................. 38
24 Dean Francis.................... 37
25 Brian Magee..................... 37
SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT - 168
1 Joe Calzaghe.................... 296
2 Mikkel Kessler.................. 151
3 Anthony Mundine................. 116
4 Lucian Bute..................... 113
5 Carl Froch...................... 110
6 Denis Inkin..................... 89
7 Sakio Bika...................... 88
8 Peter Manfredo Jr............... 77
9 Librado Andrade................. 75
10 Juergen Braehmer................ 74
11 Vitali Tsypko................... 73
12 Edison Miranda.................. 70
13 Fulgencio Zuniga................ 63
14 Sam Soliman..................... 58
15 Alejandro Berrio................ 58
16 Ricardo Mayorga................. 57
17 Allan Green..................... 55
18 Karoly Balzsay.................. 51
19 Jean Paul Mendy................. 51
20 Cristian Sanavia................ 48
21 Robert Stieglitz................ 47
22 Fernando Vargas................. 47
23 Robin Reid...................... 46
24 Andre Ward...................... 45
25 Paul Smith...................... 42
MIDDLEWEIGHT - 160
1 Kelly Pavlik.................... 326
2 Jermain Taylor.................. 262
3 Cory Spinks..................... 248
4 Arthur Abraham.................. 168
5 Raymond Joval................... 77
6 Felix Sturm..................... 75
7 Javier Castillejo............... 74
8 John Duddy...................... 71
9 David Lopez..................... 70
10 Sebastian Sylvester............. 67
11 Sergio Mora..................... 64
12 Wayne Elcock.................... 62
13 Yuri Foreman.................... 58
14 Gary Lockett.................... 57
15 Randy Griffin................... 56
16 Marco Antonio Rubio............. 54
17 Anthony Thompson................ 53
18 Howard Eastman.................. 52
19 Sebastien Demers................ 52
20 Khoren Gevor.................... 51
21 Giovanni Lorenzo................ 50
22 Amin Asikainen.................. 50
23 Mahir Oral...................... 44
24 Bronco McKart................... 41
25 Elvin Ayala..................... 41
LIGHT MIDDLEWEIGHT - 154
1 Floyd Mayweather Jr............. 320
2 Oscar De La Hoya................ 203
3 Vernon Forrest.................. 152
4 Roman Karmazin.................. 105
5 Sergiy Dzinziruk................ 103
6 Verno Phillips.................. 101
7 Carlos Manuel Baldomir.......... 100
8 Joachim Alcine.................. 95
9 Saul Roman...................... 83
10 Jamie Moore..................... 81
11 Sergio Gabriel Martinez......... 77
12 Kassim Ouma..................... 75
13 Sechew Powell................... 73
14 Daniel Santos................... 72
15 Joel Julio...................... 71
16 Joshua Clottey.................. 69
17 Rodney Jones.................... 68
18 Zaurbek Baysangurov............. 66
19 Attila Kovacs................... 61
20 James Kirkland.................. 59
21 Diego Corrales.................. 58
22 Christophe Canclaux............. 58
23 Eromosele Albert................ 55
24 Lukas Konecny................... 54
25 Bradley Pryce................... 51
WELTERWEIGHT - 147
1 Miguel Angel Cotto.............. 258
2 Shane Mosley.................... 194
3 Paul Williams................... 138
4 Antonio Margarito............... 114
5 Kermit Cintron.................. 109
6 Jose Luis Castillo.............. 104
7 Andre Berto..................... 83
8 Alfonso Gomez................... 80
9 Jackson Osei Bonsu.............. 69
10 Luis Collazo.................... 67
11 Isaac Hlatshwayo................ 64
12 Said Ouali...................... 63
13 Victor Ortiz.................... 62
14 Shamone Alvarez................. 61
15 Arturo Gatti.................... 60
16 Frederic Klose.................. 55
17 Jesus Soto Karass............... 54
18 Oktay Urkal..................... 51
19 Carlos Quintana................. 50
20 Ajose Olusegun.................. 47
21 Sebastian Andres Lujan.......... 45
22 Yuriy Nuzhnenko................. 44
23 Kevin McIntyre.................. 44
24 Richard Gutierrez............... 44
25 Vyacheslav Senchenko............ 43
LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT - 140
1 Ricky Hatton.................... 277
2 Junior Witter................... 156
3 Demetrius Hopkins............... 104
4 Herman Ngoudjo.................. 89
5 Ricardo Torres.................. 82
6 Paul Malignaggi................. 79
7 Vivian Harris................... 78
8 Juan Lazcano.................... 66
9 Ted Bami........................ 66
10 Timothy Bradley................. 64
11 Sergey Sorokin.................. 59
12 Francisco Figueroa.............. 59
13 Andreas Kotelnik................ 58
14 Henry Bruseles.................. 58
15 Juan Urango..................... 58
16 Yodsanan Sor Nanthachai......... 57
17 Colin Lynes..................... 57
18 Kendall Holt.................... 56
19 Lamont Peterson................. 55
20 Randall Bailey.................. 54
21 Gavin Rees...................... 54
22 Manuel Garnica.................. 47
23 Nigel Wright.................... 46
24 Lenny Daws...................... 45
25 Cesar Rene Cuenca............... 43
LIGHTWEIGHT - 135
1 Juan Diaz....................... 185
2 Joel Casamayor.................. 106
3 Nate Campbell................... 101
4 Zahir Raheem.................... 87
5 Julio Diaz...................... 82
6 Aldo Nazareno Rios.............. 78
7 Acelino Freitas................. 75
8 David Diaz...................... 71
9 Almazbek Raiymkulov............. 62
10 Jose Armando Santa Cruz......... 62
11 Yuri Romanov.................... 60
12 Jonathan Thaxton................ 58
13 Erik Morales.................... 54
14 Rolando Reyes................... 53
15 Michael Katsidis................ 52
16 Fernando Angulo................. 51
17 Edner Cherry.................... 46
18 Bobby Pacquiao.................. 46
19 Anthony Peterson................ 45
20 Ranee Ganoy..................... 44
21 Amir Khan....................... 43
22 Ray Narh........................ 42
23 Jesus Chavez.................... 42
24 Josesito Lopez.................. 41
25 Marcos Rene Maidana............. 41
SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT - 130
1 Manny Pacquiao.................. 217
2 Juan Manuel Marquez............. 185
3 Joan Guzman..................... 122
4 Alex Arthur..................... 98
5 Marco Antonio Barrera........... 98
6 Jorge Rodrigo Barrios........... 90
7 Rocky Juarez.................... 81
8 Cassius Baloyi.................. 78
9 Edwin Valero.................... 66
10 Mzonke Fana..................... 62
11 Humberto Soto................... 59
12 Leva Kirakosyan................. 59
13 Manuel Medina................... 54
14 Sirimongkol Singwancha.......... 49
15 Roman Martinez.................. 46
16 Agnaldo Nunes................... 43
17 Malcolm Klassen................. 42
18 Carl Johanneson................. 42
19 Francisco Lorenzo............... 41
20 Billy Dib....................... 40
21 Kevin Mitchell.................. 40
22 Roberto David Arrieta........... 39
23 Jason Litzau.................... 38
24 Israel Hector Enrique Perez..... 37
25 Yusuke Kobori................... 36
FEATHERWEIGHT - 126
1 Chris John...................... 123
2 Robert Guerrero................. 82
3 Steven Luevano.................. 71
4 Hector Velazquez................ 64
5 Thomas Mashaba.................. 60
6 In Jin Chi...................... 58
7 Jorge Linares................... 49
8 Fernando David Saucedo.......... 48
9 Jorge Solis..................... 48
10 Derry Matthews.................. 45
11 Hiroyuki Enoki.................. 40
12 Marcos Ramirez.................. 40
13 Nicky Cook...................... 37
14 Mario Santiago.................. 37
15 Tomas Villa..................... 35
16 Zaiki Takemoto.................. 35
17 John Simpson.................... 34
18 Jose Andres Hernandez........... 33
19 Terdsak Jandaeng................ 32
20 Jackson Asiku................... 29
21 Antonio Davis................... 29
22 Martin Honorio.................. 29
23 Juan Gerardo Cabrera............ 29
24 Jose Rojas...................... 28
25 Domenico Urbano................. 27
SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT - 122
1 Israel Vazquez.................. 154
2 Rafael Marquez.................. 102
3 Celestino Caballero............. 91
4 Daniel Ponce de Leon............ 88
5 Steve Molitor................... 76
6 Mike Oliver..................... 61
7 Napapol Kiatisakchokchai........ 51
8 Kiko Martinez................... 46
9 Somsak Sithchatchawal........... 45
10 Ricardo Cordoba................. 41
11 Bernabe Concepcion.............. 41
12 Toshiaki Nishioka............... 41
13 Ratanachai Sor Vorapin.......... 40
14 Nobuto Ikehara.................. 40
15 Jhonny Gonzalez................. 40
16 Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym....... 39
17 Wethya Sakmuangklang............ 37
18 Juan Manuel Lopez............... 37
19 Takalani Ndlovu................. 31
20 Olivier Lontchi................. 31
21 Akifumi Shimoda................. 30
22 Rey Bautista.................... 30
23 Tshifhiwa Munyai................ 29
24 Bernard Dunne................... 29
25 Naoki Matsuda................... 28
BANTAMWEIGHT - 118
1 Hozumi Hasegawa................. 71
2 Gerry Penalosa.................. 57
3 Wladimir Sidorenko.............. 56
4 Simone Maludrottu............... 53
5 Jorge Arce...................... 50
6 Silence Mabuza.................. 48
7 Martin Castillo................. 43
8 Yonnhy Perez.................... 40
9 Alejandro Valdez................ 40
10 Anselmo Moreno.................. 35
11 Rolly Matsushita................ 34
12 Diosdado Gabi................... 34
13 Abner Mares..................... 34
14 Nobuo Nashiro................... 33
15 Michael Domingo................. 32
16 Kohei Ohba...................... 31
17 Ian Napa........................ 30
18 Joseph Agbeko................... 30
19 Sasha Bakhtin................... 30
20 Eugen Sorin Tanasie............. 28
21 Simpiwe Vetyeka................. 28
22 Luis Alberto Perez.............. 26
23 Veeraphol Sahaprom.............. 25
24 Frederic Patrac................. 25
25 Daniel Diaz..................... 24
SUPER FLYWEIGHT - 115
1 Cristian Mijares................ 75
2 Fernando Montiel................ 58
3 Alexander Munoz................. 58
4 Z Gorres........................ 42
5 Vic Darchinyan.................. 42
6 Pramuansak Posuwan.............. 39
7 Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo.......... 36
8 Chatchai Sasakul................ 31
9 Dimitri Kirilov................. 30
10 Juan Mercedes................... 30
11 Daigo Nakahiro.................. 30
12 AJ Banal........................ 29
13 Kohei Kono...................... 28
14 Luis Alberto Lazarte............ 27
15 Richard Olisa................... 26
16 Jose Navarro.................... 26
17 Duangpetch Saengmorakot......... 26
18 Kahramon Arzykulov.............. 24
19 Eden Sonsona.................... 24
20 Zolile Mbityi................... 24
21 Kuniyuki Aizawa................. 23
22 Brian Viloria................... 23
23 Oscar Andrade................... 22
24 Andy Bell....................... 22
25 Danilo Pena..................... 21
FLYWEIGHT - 112
1 Nonito Donaire.................. 70
2 Omar Andres Narvaes............ 58
3 Daisuke Naito................... 53
4 Takefumi Sakata................. 49
5 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam........... 48
6 Denkaosan Kaovichit............. 45
7 Wandee Singwancha............... 41
8 Panomroonglek Kratingdaenggym... 37
9 Koki Kameda..................... 36
10 Giovanni Segura................. 35
11 Jose Lopez...................... 34
12 Raul Martinez................... 31
13 Kenji Yoshida................... 28
14 Bert Batawang................... 28
15 Rayonta Whitfield............... 28
16 Roberto Vasquez................. 27
17 Hussein Hussein................. 27
18 Rocky Fuentes................... 26
19 Andrea Sarritzu................. 26
20 Shingo Yamaguchi................ 24
21 Ratanapol Sor Vorapin........... 24
22 Omar Salado..................... 23
23 Evert Briceno................... 22
24 Daiki Kameda.................... 22
25 Noknoi Sitthiprasert............ 21
LIGHT FLYWEIGHT - 108
1 Ulises Solis.................... 45
2 Edgar Sosa...................... 43
3 Ivan Calderon................... 42
4 Along Denoy..................... 38
5 Hugo Fidel Cazares.............. 37
6 Katsunari Takayama.............. 28
7 Juanito Rubillar................ 26
8 Juan Carlos Reveco.............. 26
9 Ronald Barrera.................. 25
10 Munetsugu Kayo.................. 24
11 Roman Gonzalez.................. 24
12 Muvhuso Nedzanani............... 23
13 Nethra Sasiprapa................ 22
14 Rexon Flores.................... 21
15 Kaichon Sor Vorapin............. 20
16 Takashi Kunishige............... 20
17 Juan Palacios................... 20
18 Francisco Soto.................. 19
19 Masayuki Kuroda................. 18
20 Phumzile Matyhila............... 18
21 Junichiro Kaneda................ 18
22 Naoto Saito..................... 17
23 Juan Jose Landaeta.............. 17
24 Nobuaki Masuda.................. 17
25 Nerys Espinoza.................. 17
MINIMUMWEIGHT - 105
1 Oleydong Sithsamerchai.......... 40
2 Florante Condes................. 38
3 Yutaka Niida.................... 38
4 Eagle Kyowa..................... 35
5 Muhammad Rachman................ 32
6 Donnie Nietes................... 32
7 Pigmy Muangchaiyaphum........... 25
8 Pornsawan Kratingdaenggym....... 25
9 Satoshi Kogumazaka.............. 23
10 Yasutaka Kuroki................. 23
11 Denver Cuello................... 23
12 Nkosinathi Joyi................. 23
13 Omar Soto....................... 22
14 Toshikazu Waga.................. 21
15 Milan Melindo................... 21
16 Kenichi Horikawa................ 20
17 Teruo Misawa.................... 20
18 Zukisani Kwayiba................ 19
19 Norihito Tanaka................. 19
20 Yoshihiro Hisada................ 18
21 Masayoshi Segawa................ 18
22 Rollen Del Castillo............. 17
23 Akira Yaegashi.................. 17
24 Wanheng Menayothin.............. 17
25 Masatate Tsuji.................. 16
Posted: 03 Dec 2007, 13:33
by sockdolager
conan_the_cribber wrote:Just posting so I can dig it up again after the next attack.
good idea, Ill do the same.
Posted: 04 Dec 2007, 09:18
by conan_the_cribber
Hi JCS,
a solid list. Couldn't find any glaring mistakes. Well done.
conan.
p.s. the only thing I noticed was that it was inappropriate for a p4p algorithm. The higher weight classes receive more points, hence Wlad would be p4p #2.
Posted: 04 Dec 2007, 16:43
by JCS
conan_the_cribber wrote:Hi JCS,
a solid list. Couldn't find any glaring mistakes. Well done.
conan.
p.s. the only thing I noticed was that it was inappropriate for a p4p algorithm. The higher weight classes receive more points, hence Wlad would be p4p #2.
Some normalization would be required. Not too sure how to go about that one though.
I had a bug or two in that set. Will post another sometime in the near future. Proof thought that the current system can be improved.. because I think a few of my divisions look much better.
I've said it before and will say it again, the steep inactivity/opp quality drop-offs are the biggest problem.
Doesn't Byrd look so much better at #19 then at like #60?
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 13:23
by JCS
An update Conan
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Data as of Dec 8, 2007
HEAVYWEIGHT - UNLIMITED
1 Wladimir Klitschko.............. 463
2 Ruslan Chagaev.................. 370
3 Nikolay Valuev.................. 326
4 Samuel Peter.................... 297
5 Oleg Maskaev.................... 211
6 Sultan Ibragimov................ 190
7 Tony Thompson................... 168
8 Alexander Povetkin.............. 155
9 Eddie Chambers.................. 154
10 Hasim Rahman.................... 151
11 Matt Skelton.................... 149
12 James Toney..................... 146
13 Calvin Brock.................... 135
14 John Ruiz....................... 130
15 Lamon Brewster.................. 126
16 Vladimir Virchis................ 124
17 Ray Austin...................... 108
18 Jameel McCline.................. 105
19 Shannon Briggs.................. 103
20 Juan Carlos Gomez............... 101
21 Alexander Dimitrenko............ 99
22 Danny Williams.................. 94
23 Kali Meehan..................... 91
24 Michael Sprott.................. 91
25 Luan Krasniqi................... 90
CRUISERWEIGHT - 200
1 David Haye...................... 154
2 O'Neil Bell..................... 115
3 Enzo Maccarinelli............... 100
4 Steve Cunningham................ 99
5 Jean Marc Mormeck............... 94
6 Marco Huck...................... 89
7 Vincenzo Cantatore.............. 75
8 Firat Arslan.................... 71
9 Krzysztof Wlodarczyk............ 70
10 Vadim Tokarev................... 64
11 Darnell Wilson.................. 64
12 Matt Godfrey.................... 62
13 Johnathon Banks................. 57
14 Rob Calloway.................... 55
15 Tomasz Adamek................... 48
16 Grigory Drozd................... 47
17 Rudolf Kraj..................... 46
18 Valery Brudov................... 44
19 Henry Maske..................... 41
20 Mark Hobson..................... 39
21 Yoan Pablo Hernandez............ 39
22 Wayne Braithwaite............... 39
23 Aaron Williams.................. 38
24 Pietro Aurino................... 38
25 Vassiliy Jirov.................. 37
LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT - 175
1 Bernard Hopkins................. 580
2 Clinton Woods................... 300
3 Antonio Tarver.................. 293
4 Ronald Wright................... 233
5 Glen Johnson.................... 195
6 Roy Jones Jr.................... 174
7 Chad Dawson..................... 122
8 Zsolt Erdei..................... 122
9 Elvir Muriqi.................... 110
10 Stipe Drews..................... 95
11 Julio Cesar Gonzalez............ 86
12 Paul Briggs..................... 79
13 Danny Green..................... 78
14 Tito Mendoza.................... 77
15 Adrian Diaconu.................. 75
16 Montell Griffin................. 67
17 Thomas Ulrich................... 65
18 Prince Badi Ajamu............... 60
19 Silvio Branco................... 60
20 Jorge Fernando Castro........... 57
21 Aleksy Kuziemski................ 49
22 Dean Francis.................... 47
23 Tavoris Cloud................... 42
24 Brian Magee..................... 41
25 Anthony Hanshaw................. 40
SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHT - 168
1 Joe Calzaghe.................... 351
2 Mikkel Kessler.................. 183
3 Jeff Lacy....................... 167
4 Anthony Mundine................. 149
5 Lucian Bute..................... 130
6 Carl Froch...................... 127
7 Sakio Bika...................... 100
8 Denis Inkin..................... 98
9 Librado Andrade................. 87
10 Juergen Braehmer................ 86
11 Vitali Tsypko................... 86
12 Peter Manfredo Jr............... 76
13 Edison Miranda.................. 70
14 Fulgencio Zuniga................ 67
15 Alejandro Berrio................ 67
16 Sam Soliman..................... 66
17 Ricardo Mayorga................. 65
18 Allan Green..................... 61
19 Jean Pascal..................... 59
20 Jean Paul Mendy................. 58
21 Karoly Balzsay.................. 57
22 Robin Reid...................... 55
23 Robert Stieglitz................ 52
24 Cristian Sanavia................ 52
25 Fernando Vargas................. 51
MIDDLEWEIGHT - 160
1 Kelly Pavlik.................... 392
2 Jermain Taylor.................. 314
3 Cory Spinks..................... 295
4 Arthur Abraham.................. 201
5 Raymond Joval................... 98
6 Javier Castillejo............... 86
7 Felix Sturm..................... 85
8 John Duddy...................... 84
9 David Lopez..................... 76
10 Sebastian Sylvester............. 74
11 Sergio Mora..................... 70
12 Randy Griffin................... 64
13 Wayne Elcock.................... 63
14 Marco Antonio Rubio............. 63
15 Gary Lockett.................... 62
16 Enrique Ornelas................. 61
17 Howard Eastman.................. 58
18 Sebastien Demers................ 57
19 Amin Asikainen.................. 56
20 Giovanni Lorenzo................ 54
21 Khoren Gevor.................... 53
22 Anthony Thompson................ 50
23 Mahir Oral...................... 48
24 Kofi Jantuah.................... 46
25 Elvin Ayala..................... 46
LIGHT MIDDLEWEIGHT - 154
1 Oscar De La Hoya................ 240
2 Vernon Forrest.................. 179
3 Roman Karmazin.................. 126
4 Sergio Gabriel Martinez......... 118
5 Sergiy Dzinziruk................ 117
6 Verno Phillips.................. 114
7 Joachim Alcine.................. 110
8 Carlos Manuel Baldomir.......... 108
9 Saul Roman...................... 107
10 Kassim Ouma..................... 96
11 Jamie Moore..................... 89
12 Sechew Powell................... 85
13 Rodney Jones.................... 81
14 Daniel Santos................... 76
15 Joel Julio...................... 73
16 Zaurbek Baysangurov............. 73
17 Michele Piccirillo.............. 69
18 Attila Kovacs................... 68
19 Joshua Clottey.................. 67
20 Evans Ashira.................... 66
21 Christophe Canclaux............. 63
22 Lukas Konecny................... 61
23 James Kirkland.................. 61
24 Yuri Foreman.................... 58
25 Eromosele Albert................ 56
WELTERWEIGHT - 147
1 Floyd Mayweather Jr............. 531
2 Miguel Angel Cotto.............. 294
3 Ricky Hatton.................... 247
4 Shane Mosley.................... 232
5 Paul Williams................... 162
6 Antonio Margarito............... 141
7 Kermit Cintron.................. 123
8 Jose Luis Castillo.............. 115
9 Andre Berto..................... 93
10 Alfonso Gomez................... 89
11 Jackson Osei Bonsu.............. 77
12 Yuriy Nuzhnenko................. 74
13 Luis Collazo.................... 73
14 Said Ouali...................... 69
15 Arturo Gatti.................... 68
16 Isaac Hlatshwayo................ 65
17 Shamone Alvarez................. 63
18 Jesus Soto Karass............... 62
19 Sebastian Andres Lujan.......... 59
20 Victor Ortiz.................... 58
21 Oktay Urkal..................... 55
22 Carlos Quintana................. 53
23 Richard Gutierrez............... 52
24 Ajose Olusegun.................. 52
25 Kevin McIntyre.................. 50
LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT - 140
1 Junior Witter................... 178
2 Demetrius Hopkins............... 119
3 Herman Ngoudjo.................. 104
4 Ricardo Torres.................. 91
5 Vivian Harris................... 90
6 Paul Malignaggi................. 88
7 Ted Bami........................ 79
8 Juan Lazcano.................... 75
9 Timothy Bradley................. 73
10 Sergey Sorokin.................. 69
11 Andreas Kotelnik................ 68
12 Henry Bruseles.................. 68
13 Marcos Rene Maidana............. 67
14 Colin Lynes..................... 64
15 Francisco Figueroa.............. 63
16 Randall Bailey.................. 62
17 Juan Urango..................... 62
18 Lamont Peterson................. 61
19 Kendall Holt.................... 61
20 Gavin Rees...................... 61
21 Nigel Wright.................... 52
22 Cesar Rene Cuenca............... 52
23 Souleymane M'baye............... 51
24 Lenny Daws...................... 51
25 Giuseppe Lauri.................. 50
LIGHTWEIGHT - 135
1 Juan Diaz....................... 212
2 Nate Campbell................... 117
3 Joel Casamayor.................. 116
4 Aldo Nazareno Rios.............. 99
5 Julio Diaz...................... 94
6 Zahir Raheem.................... 90
7 Acelino Freitas................. 82
8 David Diaz...................... 77
9 Yuri Romanov.................... 68
10 Jonathan Thaxton................ 68
11 Jose Armando Santa Cruz......... 68
12 Almazbek Raiymkulov............. 67
13 Amir Khan....................... 63
14 Fernando Angulo................. 62
15 Edner Cherry.................... 61
16 Michael Katsidis................ 59
17 Erik Morales.................... 59
18 Rolando Reyes................... 56
19 Ranee Ganoy..................... 51
20 Ray Narh........................ 49
21 Bobby Pacquiao.................. 47
22 Anthony Peterson................ 47
23 Darling Jimenez................. 46
24 Jesus Chavez.................... 44
25 Josesito Lopez.................. 44
SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT - 130
1 Manny Pacquiao.................. 237
2 Juan Manuel Marquez............. 201
3 Joan Guzman..................... 148
4 Alex Arthur..................... 109
5 Marco Antonio Barrera........... 106
6 Jorge Rodrigo Barrios........... 103
7 Rocky Juarez.................... 88
8 Cassius Baloyi.................. 87
9 Humberto Soto................... 74
10 Edwin Valero.................... 71
11 Mzonke Fana..................... 70
12 Leva Kirakosyan................. 64
13 Manuel Medina................... 61
14 Orlando Salido.................. 52
15 Roman Martinez.................. 48
16 Sirimongkol Singwancha.......... 46
17 Agnaldo Nunes................... 46
18 Francisco Lorenzo............... 45
19 Malcolm Klassen................. 45
20 Carl Johanneson................. 45
21 Kevin Mitchell.................. 43
22 Billy Dib....................... 40
23 Jason Litzau.................... 40
24 Nazareno Gaston Ruiz............ 39
25 Koba Gogoladze.................. 38
FEATHERWEIGHT - 126
1 Chris John...................... 137
2 Robert Guerrero................. 89
3 Steven Luevano.................. 80
4 Hector Velazquez................ 70
5 Thomas Mashaba.................. 66
6 Fernando David Saucedo.......... 64
7 In Jin Chi...................... 62
8 Jorge Linares................... 50
9 Derry Matthews.................. 46
10 Jorge Solis..................... 44
11 Nicky Cook...................... 43
12 Zaiki Takemoto.................. 41
13 Hiroyuki Enoki.................. 41
14 Marcos Ramirez.................. 40
15 Mario Santiago.................. 40
16 Somsak Sithchatchawal........... 39
17 Tomas Villa..................... 37
18 Jose Andres Hernandez........... 36
19 John Simpson.................... 36
20 Juan Gerardo Cabrera............ 33
21 Terdsak Jandaeng................ 33
22 Antonio Davis................... 33
23 Martin Honorio.................. 32
24 Jose Rojas...................... 31
25 Domenico Urbano................. 31
SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT - 122
1 Israel Vazquez.................. 162
2 Rafael Marquez.................. 106
3 Celestino Caballero............. 94
4 Daniel Ponce de Leon............ 92
5 Steve Molitor................... 85
6 Mike Oliver..................... 61
7 Napapol Kiatisakchokchai........ 55
8 Kiko Martinez................... 52
9 Jhonny Gonzalez................. 44
10 Nobuto Ikehara.................. 43
11 Ricardo Cordoba................. 42
12 Poonsawat Kratingdaenggym....... 42
13 Bernabe Concepcion.............. 41
14 Ratanachai Sor Vorapin.......... 41
15 Wethya Sakmuangklang............ 39
16 Juan Manuel Lopez............... 38
17 Toshiaki Nishioka............... 36
18 Tshifhiwa Munyai................ 36
19 Rey Bautista.................... 35
20 Takalani Ndlovu................. 34
21 Bernard Dunne................... 33
22 Akifumi Shimoda................. 32
23 Olivier Lontchi................. 30
24 Naoki Matsuda................... 29
25 Salem Bouaita................... 28
BANTAMWEIGHT - 118
1 Hozumi Hasegawa................. 84
2 Gerry Penalosa.................. 64
3 Wladimir Sidorenko.............. 60
4 Simone Maludrottu............... 56
5 Silence Mabuza.................. 52
6 Jorge Arce...................... 51
7 Alejandro Valdez................ 45
8 Yonnhy Perez.................... 43
9 Martin Castillo................. 43
10 Anselmo Moreno.................. 41
11 Veeraphol Sahaprom.............. 38
12 Abner Mares..................... 36
13 Rolly Matsushita................ 35
14 Michael Domingo................. 34
15 Nobuo Nashiro................... 34
16 Kohei Ohba...................... 32
17 Ian Napa........................ 32
18 Simpiwe Vetyeka................. 31
19 Joseph Agbeko................... 31
20 Sasha Bakhtin................... 31
21 Eugen Sorin Tanasie............. 30
22 Diosdado Gabi................... 29
23 Luis Alberto Perez.............. 27
24 Frederic Patrac................. 26
25 Daniel Diaz..................... 25
SUPER FLYWEIGHT - 115
1 Cristian Mijares................ 80
2 Fernando Montiel................ 61
3 Alexander Munoz................. 61
4 Z Gorres........................ 45
5 Vic Darchinyan.................. 44
6 Pramuansak Posuwan.............. 39
7 Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo.......... 38
8 AJ Banal........................ 33
9 Dimitri Kirilov................. 32
10 Chatchai Sasakul................ 31
11 Daigo Nakahiro.................. 30
12 Juan Mercedes................... 30
13 Kohei Kono...................... 29
14 Jose Navarro.................... 29
15 Richard Olisa................... 28
16 Duangpetch Saengmorakot......... 27
17 Eden Sonsona.................... 26
18 Luis Alberto Lazarte............ 25
19 Brian Viloria................... 25
20 Zolile Mbityi................... 25
21 Kahramon Arzykulov.............. 25
22 Kuniyuki Aizawa................. 24
23 Oscar Andrade................... 23
24 Cecilio Santos.................. 22
25 Santiago Ivan Acosta............ 22
FLYWEIGHT - 112
1 Nonito Donaire.................. 80
2 Omar Andres Narvaes............ 63
3 Takefumi Sakata................. 55
4 Daisuke Naito................... 53
5 Denkaosan Kaovichit............. 48
6 Pongsaklek Wonjongkam........... 47
7 Wandee Singwancha............... 43
8 Panomroonglek Kratingdaenggym... 37
9 Giovanni Segura................. 36
10 Koki Kameda..................... 36
11 Jose Lopez...................... 34
12 Raul Martinez................... 32
13 Roberto Vasquez................. 31
14 Omar Salado..................... 30
15 Bert Batawang................... 28
16 Hussein Hussein................. 28
17 Luis Maldonado.................. 28
18 Kenji Yoshida................... 28
19 Rayonta Whitfield............... 26
20 Andrea Sarritzu................. 26
21 Ratanapol Sor Vorapin........... 26
22 Richie Mepranum................. 25
23 Daiki Kameda.................... 24
24 Shingo Yamaguchi................ 24
25 Evert Briceno................... 23
LIGHT FLYWEIGHT - 108
1 Ulises Solis.................... 48
2 Edgar Sosa...................... 48
3 Ivan Calderon................... 44
4 Hugo Fidel Cazares.............. 40
5 Along Denoy..................... 40
6 Katsunari Takayama.............. 28
7 Juanito Rubillar................ 27
8 Ronald Barrera.................. 26
9 Muvhuso Nedzanani............... 25
10 Brahim Asloum................... 25
11 Roman Gonzalez.................. 25
12 Nethra Sasiprapa................ 25
13 Munetsugu Kayo.................. 25
14 Rexon Flores.................... 21
15 Juan Carlos Reveco.............. 21
16 Kaichon Sor Vorapin............. 21
17 Takashi Kunishige............... 21
18 Juan Palacios................... 20
19 Phumzile Matyhila............... 20
20 Sonny Boy Jaro.................. 19
21 Masayuki Kuroda................. 19
22 Nerys Espinoza.................. 19
23 Job Solano...................... 18
24 Lorenzo Trejo................... 18
25 Rodel Mayol..................... 18
MINIMUMWEIGHT - 105
1 Oleydong Sithsamerchai.......... 41
2 Florante Condes................. 39
3 Yutaka Niida.................... 39
4 Eagle Kyowa..................... 36
5 Donnie Nietes................... 33
6 Muhammad Rachman................ 33
7 Pornsawan Kratingdaenggym....... 26
8 Pigmy Muangchaiyaphum........... 25
9 Yasutaka Kuroki................. 24
10 Satoshi Kogumazaka.............. 24
11 Denver Cuello................... 24
12 Nkosinathi Joyi................. 23
13 Omar Soto....................... 22
14 Toshikazu Waga.................. 22
15 Teruo Misawa.................... 22
16 Kenichi Horikawa................ 21
17 Milan Melindo................... 21
18 Zukisani Kwayiba................ 20
19 Norihito Tanaka................. 19
20 Yoshihiro Hisada................ 19
21 Masayoshi Segawa................ 19
22 Raul Garcia..................... 18
23 Akira Yaegashi.................. 18
24 Rollen Del Castillo............. 18
25 Wanheng Menayothin.............. 17
Still dreaming up a method for P4P.. but I don't think its feasible. Even the current method is artificial.
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 14:13
by JCS
Cobwebcat wrote:JCS: What's Mayweather's new all-time score? Gone up much?
1116
Hatton at 723
Posted: 09 Dec 2007, 14:31
by JCS
I'm wondering if I've got some kind of old data again... I'm not sure what's updated on the test server and what isn't.
I'll let Martin answer these questions.