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kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:Frankie: do you much about Adrian Arreola? He was one of around five boxing brothers and came over here and looked sensational pasting John Feeney in a 10-rounder in London in 1982. He was one of those fighters who took on the very best and could never hope to win every time. But he licked Lupe Pintor and gave Julio Cesar Chavez a 10-round war right before Chavez won the WBC super-featherweight title in 1984.

Bennie,

Adrian Arreola works at a car dealership in East Los Angeles, my grandson, Rocky, has a friend that knows Adrian and he told Rocky that Adrian has a copy of his fight with J.C. Chavez and they, Rocky and his friend are going to try to get a copy, I seen that fight live, and I also seen some of his fights when he was fighting 4-6 round fights, I also seen Adrian and his brother Memo fight live in the amatuers a few time, my son Tony fought and beat Memo in the amatuers, Adrian was a good boxer, but had no punch, there was another brother who also fought but I can't remember his name.
They were all started in boxing by Al Stankie, who also had Paul Gonzales, and De La Hoyo at one time.

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:Frankie: do you much about Adrian Arreola? He was one of around five boxing brothers and came over here and looked sensational pasting John Feeney in a 10-rounder in London in 1982. He was one of those fighters who took on the very best and could never hope to win every time. But he licked Lupe Pintor and gave Julio Cesar Chavez a 10-round war right before Chavez won the WBC super-featherweight title in 1984.

Bennie,

Adrian Arreola works at a car dealership in East Los Angeles, my grandson, Rocky, has a friend that knows Adrian and he told Rocky that Adrian has a copy of his fight with J.C. Chavez and they, Rocky and his friend are going to try to get a copy, I seen that fight live, and I also seen some of his fights when he was fighting 4-6 round fights, I also seen Adrian and his brother Memo fight live in the amatuers a few time, my son Tony fought and beat Memo in the amatuers, Adrian was a good boxer, but had no punch, there was another brother who also fought but I can't remember his name.
They were all started in boxing by Al Stankie, who also had Paul Gonzales, and De La Hoyo at one time.

That's brilliant, Frankie. I wonder if it was Stankie in London with Adrian and Cipriano?
A big guy with spectacles.

kikibalt wrote:
Refugio Rojas

kikibalt wrote:Rick; do you remember Felipe Torres?

By Randy De La O
Thoughts on Boxing and Boxers and Fights

Felipe Torres
Last Sunday, March 2nd, 2008, the following letter was posted on our message board on the Main Street Gym entry. It is from the brother of Felipe Torres, Epifanio Z. Torres. You may or may not remember but I wrote briefly about my experience sparring with him during the 1970's. They didn't make them any tougher than Felipe. Mr. Torres informs me that his brother Felipe passed away in 1993 under difficult circumstances. Our condolences to the entire Torres family.

My time with Felipe was brief, a couple of years at best. I never forgot him. How do you forget a man that taught you some of life's hardest lessons. He forced me to learn to stand my ground, taught me how to endure pain, forced me to learn how to slip a punch, and out of desperation taught me how to use the jab to keep an opponent off of me. More than anything he taught me humility, and to never judge a man by his appearance. I never made that mistake again and I have carried his memory and that lesson around with me my entire life. I have passed that lesson to my children.

I have no idea how much his family knows about his career or if they have an insight into the mind of a fighter, but I can tell them without even speaking to Felipe that he was proud of his days in the ring. Every fighter is. You carry that pride all of your days. It never leaves you, whether you had a couple of fights or a hundred. Whatever work you do after that, you are still a fighter. With that in mind you should know that when Felipe fought Roberto Duran on March 28, 1970 in Mexico City, he did not just fight another fighter, he fought a legend. How many men have passed that can make that statement? Just a handful, trust me. When Duran was young, and knocking out everyone that was put in front of him, Felipe fought him and went the distance. He went the distance with a legend!

I hope that someone who reads this will be able to provide a photo for the family, or perhaps a personal story. I'll be happy to print it. When Mr. Torres and family provide more about details about Felipe, I'll pass them on to you. Below is the letter by Epifanio Z. Torres

Rest in Peace, Felipe

Dear Sir,

My name is Epifanio Z. Torres. I live in El Centro, Ca. I am Felipe Torres' brother. My mom is right next to me right now, and I was translating to her the part of the article that you wrote about my brother Felipe. It almost brought tears to my mom and I. You probably don't know, but Felipe died in 1993. As you were saying, he was a tough little fighter, but like many of them, he died in very difficult conditions. I'd really appreciate in other information, pictures articles that you might have about him. My mom is 83 yrs. old and she'd probably love to see some of that stuff you and your readers might have about him. I have found, in some other websites, a partial boxing record of his. From what I remember, he fought with the best featherweights of his time: He fought Roberto Duran in Mexico City: Kuniaki Shibata in Japan (he lost split decision there which is equal to a victory), he also fought with Shozo Saijo in Hawaii and lost split decision; Ricardo Arredondo, was another one of his rivals, and I am not quite sure, but I think he fought a boxer named Cesar Sinda who died after their fight. I believe I saw his name on the WBC classifications as being the #7 featherweight of the world in the 1970's. A cousin of mine sent me this link, which I am planning to bookmark. I hope you, or some of your readers might have some more info. about my brother, or other links related to him.


Thank you,

Epifanio Z. Torres

bennie wrote:You didn't get much sleep, then, Frankie.

kikibalt wrote:

Front row on left a young Alex Ramos

1976 St. Nobert's College, Green Bay--Depere, WI

We were there, thats where Tony won the Nat. Jr. Olympic's


here's Alex now

bennie wrote:Did you rate Collins, expug?

Expug wrote:

bennie wrote:Did you rate Collins, expug?

I never knew John very well but he was a good puncher .
He had a big right hand that could take guys out.
He fought Lenny Lapaglia on national tv in a real big cross town ethnic rivalry throwback type of fight.
I trained with Lapaglia and sparred a bunch of times with him before he fought Collins.
Lenny could crack too.

bennie wrote:

Expug wrote:

bennie wrote:Did you rate Collins, expug?

I never knew John very well but he was a good puncher .
He had a big right hand that could take guys out.
He fought Lenny Lapaglia on national tv in a real big cross town ethnic rivalry throwback type of fight.
I trained with Lapaglia and sparred a bunch of times with him before he fought Collins.
Lenny could crack too.

Yeah, that was a natural rivalry and they got it on (today, they would avoid each other). I felt a bit sorry for Collins. He was marketable but couldn't quite win the big ones. Losses to Sibbo and Sims probably cost him a shot at Marvin.

bennie wrote:Yeah, Sibbo was a real banger but he was horribly moody. The fight after he destroyed Collins, he was busted up and stopped by Don Lee.

bennie wrote:How is Frank Jnr these days? I noticed he put together a nice winning run after Limon but never got a sniff of something big again and drifted into semi-retirement, before coming back for a final fling.

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:How is Frank Jnr these days? I noticed he put together a nice winning run after Limon but never got a sniff of something big again and drifted into semi-retirement, before coming back for a final fling.

Frankie is doing great, good job and all, him and his wife Kim only have one child, that been Rocky, who is about 27-28 years old, stands 6'5.

Now as far as Frankie's boxing career, he was doing great, until he fought Limon, after that lost his wife didn't want Frankie to fight anymore, he would then fight one or two fights a year, he really didn't have the desire anymore, that and his wife getting on his case, he would say the hell with it.
To bad because he was a good fighter, he was a good boxer with a decent punch, but the will was not there after the Limon fight , and I really don't think that things would have been any difference had his wife not said anything.

bennie wrote:I seem to recall Collins went into the Sims fight with a real black eye. It didn't bode well, although Sims beat a rusty Duran a fight later.

bennie wrote:Remind me of that Chicago lightweight, Expug. He was close to Mancini for the world title a couple of times but each time it fell through. He was white, tough and may have wound up in jail.
His name escapes me right now.