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kikibalt wrote:The butler sees a new White House

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CLARK, The Washington Post
Eugene Allen, 89, a retired White House butler, tries on his old tuxedo for a photo. Allen, who served eight presidents during a period when America's racial history was being rewritten, is marveling at the election of Barack Obama.
Now retired, he started when blacks were in the kitchen.

By Wil Haygood
November 7, 2008

Reporting from Washington -- For more than three decades, Eugene Allen worked in the White House, a black man unknown to the headlines. During some of those years, harsh segregation laws lay upon the land.

He trekked home every night to his wife, Helene, who kept him out of her kitchen.

At the White House, he worked closer to the dirty dishes than to the Oval Office. Helene didn't care; she just beamed with pride.

President Truman called him Gene. President Ford liked to talk golf with him. He saw eight presidential administrations come and go, often working six days a week.

"I never missed a day of work," Allen said.

He was there while racial history was made: Brown vs. Board of Education, the Little Rock school crisis, the 1963 March on Washington, the cities burning, the civil rights bills, the assassinations.

When he started at the White House in 1952, he couldn't even use the public restrooms when he ventured back to his native Virginia. "We had never had anything," Allen, 89, recalled of black America at the time. "I was always hoping things would get better."

In its long history, the White House -- note the name -- has had a complex and vexing relationship with black Americans.

"The history is not so uneven at the lower level, in the kitchen," said Ted Sorensen, who served as counselor to President Kennedy. "In the kitchen, the folks have always been black. Even the folks at the door -- black."

Before Gene Allen landed his White House job, he worked as a waiter at a resort in Hot Springs, Va., and then at a country club in Washington.

He and wife Helene, 86, were sitting in the living room of their Washington home. Her voice was musical, in a Lena Horne kind of way. She called him "Honey." They met at a birthday party in 1942. He was too shy to ask for her number, so she tracked his down. They married a year later.

In 1952, a lady told him of a job opening in the White House. "I wasn't even looking for a job," he said. "I was happy where I was working, but she told me to go on over there and meet with a guy by the name of Alonzo Fields."

Fields was a maitre d', and he immediately liked Allen.

Allen was offered a job as a "pantry man." He washed dishes, stocked cabinets and shined silverware. He started at $2,400 a year.

There was, in time, a promotion to butler. "Shook the hand of all the presidents I ever worked for," he said.

"I was there, honey," Helene said. "In the back maybe. But I shook their hands too." She was referring to White House holiday parties, Easter egg hunts.

They have one son, Charles, who works as an investigator with the State Department.

"President Ford's birthday and my birthday were on the same day," he said. "He'd have a birthday party at the White House. Everybody would be there. And Mrs. Ford would say, 'It's Gene's birthday too!' "

And so they'd sing a little ditty to the butler. And the butler, who wore a tuxedo to work every day, would blush.

"Jack Kennedy was very nice," he went on. "And so was Mrs. Kennedy."

He was in the White House kitchen the day Kennedy was slain. He got an invitation to the funeral. But he volunteered for other duty: "Somebody had to be at the White House to serve everyone after they came from the funeral."

The whole family of President Carter made Helene chuckle: "They were country. And I'm talking Lillian and Rosalynn both." It came out as the highest compliment.

First Lady Nancy Reagan came looking for him in the kitchen one day. She wanted to remind him about the upcoming state dinner for German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. She told him he would not be working that night.

"She said, 'You and Helene are coming to the state dinner as guests of President Reagan and myself.' I'm telling you! I believe I'm the only butler to get invited to a state dinner."

Husbands and wives don't sit together at these events, and Helene was nervous about trying to make small talk with world leaders. "And my son said, 'Momma, just talk about your high school. They won't know the difference.'

"The senators were all talking about the colleges and universities that they went to," she said. "I was doing as much talking as they were.

"Had champagne that night," she said, looking over at her husband.

He just grinned: He was the man who stacked the champagne at the White House.

Colin L. Powell would become the highest ranking black of any White House to that point when he was named Reagan's national security advisor in 1987. Condoleezza Rice would have that position under President George W. Bush.

Gene Allen was promoted to maitre d' in 1980. He left the White House in 1986, after 34 years. President Reagan wrote him a sweet note. Nancy Reagan hugged him tight.

Interviewed at their home last week, Gene and Helene speculated about what it would mean if a black man were elected president.

"Just imagine," she said.

"It'd be really something," he said.

"We're pretty much past the going-out stage," she said. "But you never know. If he gets in there, it'd sure be nice to go over there again."

They talked about praying to help Barack Obama get to the White House. They'd go vote together. She'd lean on her cane with one hand, and him with the other, while walking down to the precinct. And she'd get supper going afterward. They went over their election day plans more than once.

"Imagine," she said.

"That's right," he said.

On Monday, Helene had a doctor's appointment. Gene woke and nudged her once, then again. He shuffled around to her side of the bed. He nudged Helene again.

He was all alone.

"I woke up and my wife didn't," he said later.

Some friends and family members rushed over. He wanted to make coffee. They had to shoo the butler out of the kitchen.

The lady he married 65 years ago will be buried today.

The butler cast his vote for Obama on Tuesday. He so missed telling his Helene about the black man bound for the Oval Office.

Haygood writes for the Washington Post.
Nice post Frank.Funny,with a Black man as President,it's going to take a little time to get used to. To adjust. I'm not saying this in a deragatory way,but it's funny that the color of Obama's skin is still mentioned when talking about him. Even his supporters are condencending. They try to make an innocent joke about Blackness in reference to him. Even Obama himself the other night called himself a "mutt." When he walks to the podium,the first thing you notice is that he's Black. The people behind him are White. They are behind our leader who is Black. Then when his family walked onto the stage after the acceptance speech we saw the Black people. In time,I hope those knee jerk reactions will dissappear. Right now it's just new. I don't think anyone knows what to say. I think Obama knows what to do,but he even stumbles over the color of his skin sometimes.

Bill Maher said last night to the Black Governor of New Jersey,"Gee,if Obama is a good President maybe we'll elect another Black man."

I hope in 4 years statements like that will be remembered as part of our growing pains.
Diego,

Connie and I have 10 grand kids and 7 are "Mutts" (half white)
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kikibalt wrote:
dagosd2000 wrote:
kikibalt wrote:The butler sees a new White House

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CLARK, The Washington Post
Eugene Allen, 89, a retired White House butler, tries on his old tuxedo for a photo. Allen, who served eight presidents during a period when America's racial history was being rewritten, is marveling at the election of Barack Obama.
Now retired, he started when blacks were in the kitchen.

By Wil Haygood
November 7, 2008

Reporting from Washington -- For more than three decades, Eugene Allen worked in the White House, a black man unknown to the headlines. During some of those years, harsh segregation laws lay upon the land.

He trekked home every night to his wife, Helene, who kept him out of her kitchen.

At the White House, he worked closer to the dirty dishes than to the Oval Office. Helene didn't care; she just beamed with pride.

President Truman called him Gene. President Ford liked to talk golf with him. He saw eight presidential administrations come and go, often working six days a week.

"I never missed a day of work," Allen said.

He was there while racial history was made: Brown vs. Board of Education, the Little Rock school crisis, the 1963 March on Washington, the cities burning, the civil rights bills, the assassinations.

When he started at the White House in 1952, he couldn't even use the public restrooms when he ventured back to his native Virginia. "We had never had anything," Allen, 89, recalled of black America at the time. "I was always hoping things would get better."

In its long history, the White House -- note the name -- has had a complex and vexing relationship with black Americans.

"The history is not so uneven at the lower level, in the kitchen," said Ted Sorensen, who served as counselor to President Kennedy. "In the kitchen, the folks have always been black. Even the folks at the door -- black."

Before Gene Allen landed his White House job, he worked as a waiter at a resort in Hot Springs, Va., and then at a country club in Washington.

He and wife Helene, 86, were sitting in the living room of their Washington home. Her voice was musical, in a Lena Horne kind of way. She called him "Honey." They met at a birthday party in 1942. He was too shy to ask for her number, so she tracked his down. They married a year later.

In 1952, a lady told him of a job opening in the White House. "I wasn't even looking for a job," he said. "I was happy where I was working, but she told me to go on over there and meet with a guy by the name of Alonzo Fields."

Fields was a maitre d', and he immediately liked Allen.

Allen was offered a job as a "pantry man." He washed dishes, stocked cabinets and shined silverware. He started at $2,400 a year.

There was, in time, a promotion to butler. "Shook the hand of all the presidents I ever worked for," he said.

"I was there, honey," Helene said. "In the back maybe. But I shook their hands too." She was referring to White House holiday parties, Easter egg hunts.

They have one son, Charles, who works as an investigator with the State Department.

"President Ford's birthday and my birthday were on the same day," he said. "He'd have a birthday party at the White House. Everybody would be there. And Mrs. Ford would say, 'It's Gene's birthday too!' "

And so they'd sing a little ditty to the butler. And the butler, who wore a tuxedo to work every day, would blush.

"Jack Kennedy was very nice," he went on. "And so was Mrs. Kennedy."

He was in the White House kitchen the day Kennedy was slain. He got an invitation to the funeral. But he volunteered for other duty: "Somebody had to be at the White House to serve everyone after they came from the funeral."

The whole family of President Carter made Helene chuckle: "They were country. And I'm talking Lillian and Rosalynn both." It came out as the highest compliment.

First Lady Nancy Reagan came looking for him in the kitchen one day. She wanted to remind him about the upcoming state dinner for German Chancellor Helmut Kohl. She told him he would not be working that night.

"She said, 'You and Helene are coming to the state dinner as guests of President Reagan and myself.' I'm telling you! I believe I'm the only butler to get invited to a state dinner."

Husbands and wives don't sit together at these events, and Helene was nervous about trying to make small talk with world leaders. "And my son said, 'Momma, just talk about your high school. They won't know the difference.'

"The senators were all talking about the colleges and universities that they went to," she said. "I was doing as much talking as they were.

"Had champagne that night," she said, looking over at her husband.

He just grinned: He was the man who stacked the champagne at the White House.

Colin L. Powell would become the highest ranking black of any White House to that point when he was named Reagan's national security advisor in 1987. Condoleezza Rice would have that position under President George W. Bush.

Gene Allen was promoted to maitre d' in 1980. He left the White House in 1986, after 34 years. President Reagan wrote him a sweet note. Nancy Reagan hugged him tight.

Interviewed at their home last week, Gene and Helene speculated about what it would mean if a black man were elected president.

"Just imagine," she said.

"It'd be really something," he said.

"We're pretty much past the going-out stage," she said. "But you never know. If he gets in there, it'd sure be nice to go over there again."

They talked about praying to help Barack Obama get to the White House. They'd go vote together. She'd lean on her cane with one hand, and him with the other, while walking down to the precinct. And she'd get supper going afterward. They went over their election day plans more than once.

"Imagine," she said.

"That's right," he said.

On Monday, Helene had a doctor's appointment. Gene woke and nudged her once, then again. He shuffled around to her side of the bed. He nudged Helene again.

He was all alone.

"I woke up and my wife didn't," he said later.

Some friends and family members rushed over. He wanted to make coffee. They had to shoo the butler out of the kitchen.

The lady he married 65 years ago will be buried today.

The butler cast his vote for Obama on Tuesday. He so missed telling his Helene about the black man bound for the Oval Office.

Haygood writes for the Washington Post.
Nice post Frank.Funny,with a Black man as President,it's going to take a little time to get used to. To adjust. I'm not saying this in a deragatory way,but it's funny that the color of Obama's skin is still mentioned when talking about him. Even his supporters are condencending. They try to make an innocent joke about Blackness in reference to him. Even Obama himself the other night called himself a "mutt." When he walks to the podium,the first thing you notice is that he's Black. The people behind him are White. They are behind our leader who is Black. Then when his family walked onto the stage after the acceptance speech we saw the Black people. In time,I hope those knee jerk reactions will dissappear. Right now it's just new. I don't think anyone knows what to say. I think Obama knows what to do,but he even stumbles over the color of his skin sometimes.

Bill Maher said last night to the Black Governor of New Jersey,"Gee,if Obama is a good President maybe we'll elect another Black man."

I hope in 4 years statements like that will be remembered as part of our growing pains.
Diego,

Connie and I have 10 grand kids and 7 are "Mutts" (half white)

Frank
We won't tell Bennie,but I'm 1/16th French. I guess that makes me part poodle.
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THE NIGHT BLONDIE SAVED THE BAND

In the mid fifties jazz music was struggling to get a following. Rock 'N Roll was what the kids were listening to. Jazz was for "beatniks." Big Bands were about as extinct as dinosaurs. Only Count Basie and Duke Eliington were still around,barely. Ellington was planning to do his last "gig" at George Wiens's Newport Rhode Island Jazz Festival ,and then break up the band. The band was his instrument to convey his music,but he had no other choice. No play for free.

It was somewhere around 1958 when the Duke put together the boys for ,what he thought,the final encore. The crowd was still pretty good at The Festival,but no one was buying jazz records in the stores. It was '45's with short Rock 'N Roll numbers by Elvis and Little Richard that were in the record bins.

That night in Newport ,though, was to go down in history. Ellingtons band would be resurrected. But they got a little help from an admirer. Duke started the band off with an original composition named"Diminuendo in Blue." It was a blues arrangement that featured Ellington's tenor Paul Gonsalves. "Diminuendo" had a taste of R@ B that you could dance to if you wanted. After The Duke did his intro, Gonsalves stepped to the front of the bandstand and started hollerin' and screamin'. The music that evening was being recorded for Columbia Records.

As Gonsalves is working his way through his solo you can hear the crowd growing noisy and boistrous. Something was happening . From what was documented,a big blonde with a tight dress, went to the bottom of the bandstand and began dancing to the sounds of Gonsalves's tenor. Gonsaves sees her ,and they form a sort of symbiosis. The tenor and her body. It was like the music was carressing her. You can hear the intesity of the crowd build as the bars go on and on. People shouting. A surge of noise.Gonsalves is playing like a mad man. Pandemonium.

George Wien got scared and went up to Ellington and told him to stop playing,but Ellington knew the set was being recorded. He a struck upon luck with that big swivel hipped blonde sex machine.
"Please George,"said The Duke,"You mustn't disturb the artists when they are creating."

Well that music,especially "Diminuendo in Blues",became the # 1 jazz album of the day,and of all time. The proceeds saved the band from splitting,and Ellington's popularity resurged.

I guess all you have to understand is ,that artists have an easy time creating when a beautifull woman is in front of them.
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dagosd2000 wrote:
Rick Farris wrote:
Randyman wrote:Image

The Countdown begins. One week from today.

Randy :box:
I'm really looking forward to this. I'll be at the Mariott on Friday and will try to hook-up with Scar and Pug. Randy, would you E-mail your phone number? I'd like to give you a call. Lennox Lewis has confirmed he'll be there. Lennox refused any travel or living accomodations from the hall, a non-profit organization, he said "I'll pay my own way, just give me four tickets for the event." Last year, Larry Holmes demanded a dozen "first class" plane tickets, suites and accomodations for all of his group. When we said we'd only be able to cover the expenses for two, he refused to come. I have total respect for Lennox Lewis. I won't go into my opinion of Larry Holmes.

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Just saw this. Me and Maria will be up there Friday. Maybe we can get together for some eats and drinks. I posted to Pug already. Let me know. Rog

Rog, a couple days before let's make some plans. I have a WBHOF President's dinner at the Marriott on Friday night. When finished maybe we can all hook up. Scartissue and his pop arrive on Thursday. Saturday morning, from 10am to 3pm is an autograph signing/memorabelia event at the Marriott.

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dagosd2000 wrote:Just made a reservation for Friday. Will be up there around 2 pm. LAX Marriott. I've got the right hotel? Rog
That's right, Rog. Hey, did you mention you were associated with the WBHOF? If you do you get the lower rate, $99. per night. If not, call back and let them know and you'll get the deal. Same to all of my guests. If you have a problem, let me know.

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Rick and Rog, maybe you guys can give me a cell number via PM that I can call you at when I get in town.
Im at the Marriott LAX .
I may try to get an earlier flight out of Chicago . Right now Im on a flight that leaves at 9.05 pm something like that.
We are two hours later here.
I will PM you guys my cell number.

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Calzaghe turned on the style and pasted old man Jones, who is 40 in January. It took the Welshman's record to 46-0. Joe showboated a bit but he does it to disguise the strain on his fragile, 36-year-old hands. Good win, and at the end of the day, Joe is a good guy.


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Les Darcy
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Les giving a boxing demonstration with his tutor Dave Smith
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Les at the baths in Sydney, surrounded by a bunch of kids
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Les Darcy and Eddie McGoorty shake hands on the night of their first battle
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Bobo Olson down for a count of 2 against Dave Sands
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The fighting Sands brothers
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Albert Griffiths (Young Griffo) claimant to the world feather title. Was once reputed to have stood in ring centre and not moved during the round. His opponent didn't land one punch. He was drunk at the time. Doc Kearns paid for his funeral to save him from being buried in a pauper's grave
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Portrait of Sam Langford, 'The Boston Tar Baby', African American boxer and Australian heavyweight champion, 1912
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Tommy Burns versus Jack Johnson, World Heavyweight Boxing Championship, Rushcutters Bay, Sydney, Saturday, 26 December, 1908
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Elley Bennett versus Jimmy Carruthers, at Sydney Stadium, 14th May 1951 : Carruthers won on points for the Aus bantamweight title
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Fight for the World's Championship, Bill Squires and Tommy Burns, in the ring at the stadium, Rushcutter's Bay, N.S.W., Monday, August 24, 1908
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Portrait of Jack Johnson, c. 1908
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Bob Fitzsimmons, on left, posing with Starlight Rollins in an open air picture theatre
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How are you feeling, Frankie?
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bennie wrote:How are you feeling, Frankie?
Not good, Bennie, thanks for asking.... :(
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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:How are you feeling, Frankie?
Not good, Bennie, thanks for asking.... :(
Take it nice and easy, Frankie.
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[quote="bollox"]Albert Griffiths (Young Griffo) claimant to the world feather title. Was once reputed to have stood in ring centre and not moved during the round. His opponent didn't land one punch. He was drunk at the time. Doc Kearns paid for his funeral to save him from being buried in a pauper's grave
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It was actually Tex Rickard who paid for his funeral.

Its an amusing story: In the last years of his life, Griffo made his way in life by begging outside theaters in NYC, and living on a mattress in somebody's basement.

When he died, people just assumed he was penniless. Rickard paid for his funeral, and got some good press for his benevolence. Then it was discovered that Griffo had a couple of thousand dollars squirreled away in a bank account. Rickard filed a claim against Griffo's estate to try and get his money back.

I'm sure Griffo would have gotten a kick out of putting it over on a promoter one last time.
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bennie wrote:
kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:How are you feeling, Frankie?
Not good, Bennie, thanks for asking.... :(
Take it nice and easy, Frankie.
I will, Bennie, not that I have much choice.... :wink:
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I will, Bennie, not that I have much choice.... :wink:[/quote]

We're all pulling for you, Frankie. I'm still adamant about finally meeting you this coming weekend. Let's keep the faith.

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scartissue wrote:I will, Bennie, not that I have much choice.... :wink:

We're all pulling for you, Frankie. I'm still adamant about finally meeting you this coming weekend. Let's keep the faith.

Scartissue
Dan, Unfortunately, I will not be there to meet you guys, just not up to getting out of the house. I gave my tickets to Orlando De La Fuente, he and one of his brothers will be there in my place.
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RIP

Eduardo Guerrero

Alias Lalo
Country Mexico
Global Id 20199
Division Featherweight


Career Record © www.boxrec.com

Date Opponent Location Result
1965-06-01 Howard Winstone Wembley, United Kingdom L TKO 5
1965-03-20 Mario Diaz Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 10
1964-06-20 Antonio Herrera Barranquilla, Colombia L PTS 10
1964-04-04 Vicente Saldivar Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 12
Mexico Featherweight Title
1964-02-20 Hiroshi Kobayashi Japan W PTS 10
1964-01-26 Akio Furuki Japan W KO 7
1963-08-25 Ismael Laguna Panama City, Panama L UD 10
1963-06-09 Don Johnson Guadalajara, Mexico W PTS 10
1963-02-01 Jose Toluco Lopez Monterrey, Mexico W KO 8
1962-12-18 Margarito Tacuba Uribe Ciudad Juarez, Mexico D PTS 10
1962-10-06 Juan Ramirez Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 12
Mexico Featherweight Title
1962-08-18 Jose Toluco Lopez Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 10
1962-05-25 Harold Gomes Los Angeles, USA L UD 10
1962-03-08 Yukio Katsumata Japan L PTS 10
1962-02-10 Jose Toluco Lopez Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 10
1961-10-01 Juan Ramirez Mexico City, Mexico W KO 3
Mexico Featherweight Title
1961-06-25 Ramon Sarmiento Mexicali, Mexico W KO 4
1961-05-01 Ike Chestnut Tijuana, Mexico W DQ 6
1961-03-11 Jose Luis Cruz Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 10
1960-10-03 Kenji Yonekura Tijuana, Mexico W PTS 10
1960-09-10 Jose Toluco Lopez Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 10
1960-08-15 Ward Yee Tijuana, Mexico W KO 4
1960-07-25 Danny Kid Tijuana, Mexico W PTS 10
1960-06-24 Benny Casing Stockton, USA W TKO 8
1960-05-30 Pulga Serrano Tijuana, Mexico W KO 4
1960-03-05 Jose Toluco Lopez Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 10
1959-11-14 Jose Toluco Lopez Mexico City, Mexico D PTS 10
1959-10-10 Goyo Flores Mexico City, Mexico W KO 6
1959-08-08 Chiquis Rosales Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 10
1959-06-20 Felix Gutierrez Havana, Cuba W DQ 8
1959-01-17 Eloy Sanchez Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 10
1958-12-13 Miguel Lazu Mexico City, Mexico L KO 7
1958-10-11 Jose Medel Mexico City, Mexico L KO 6
1958-08-16 Pedro Jose Gonzalez Mexico City, Mexico W KO 7
1958-06-21 Carlos Cardoso Mexico City, Mexico W KO 6
1958-04-05 Chuy Rodriguez Mexico City, Mexico W KO 10
1958-02-08 Raul Leanos Monterrey, Mexico W PTS 10
1958-01-11 Jose Medel Mexico City, Mexico L PTS 10
1957-11-27 Reynaldo Tavio Mexico City, Mexico W KO 1
1957-10-25 Manuel Rodriguez Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 10
1957-09-28 Kildo Martinez Mexico City, Mexico W KO 4
1957-09-04 Raul Leanos Mexico City, Mexico W KO 10
1957-08-17 Kid San Martin Mexico City, Mexico W KO 6
1957-07-27 Chiquis Rosales Acapulco, Mexico L PTS 10
1957-07-03 Chiquilin Torres Mexico City, Mexico W KO 4
1957-05-29 Jorge Baby Salazar Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 10
1957-05-01 Chiquis Rosales Mexico City, Mexico W KO 9
1957-03-30 Heriberto Saucedo Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 6
1957-02-23 Chiquilin Torres Mexico City, Mexico D PTS 8
1957-01-23 Manuel Rojas Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 8
1956-11-07 Chico Garcia Mexico City, Mexico W KO 7
1956-10-13 Americo Rodriguez Mexico City, Mexico W KO 3
1956-08-22 Jose Gutierrez Mexico City, Mexico W PTS 6
1956-07-14 Fili Martinez Mexico City, Mexico W KO 1
1956-06-06 Jeronimo Palomo Mexico City, Mexico W KO 3

Record to Date
Won 37 (KOs 21) Lost 15 Drawn 3 Total 55
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I was speaking to Don Fraser yesterday and he told me that Gwen Adair call him to invite him to go to the WBHOF as her guest (date?), but, he too is not feeling too good, he told her that he would let her know later on in the week, then he told something that I found very interesting, he said that us old guys are sitting in "God's waiting room", how true..... :oo
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kikibalt wrote:I was speaking to Don Fraser yesterday and he told me that Gwen Adair call him to invite him to go to the WBHOF as her guest (date?), but, he too is not feeling too good, he told her that he would let her know later on in the week, then he told something that I found very interesting, he said that us old guys are sitting in "God's waiting room", how true..... :oo
I'm selfishly hoping you can reschedule your appointment in that waiting room for awhile.

Scartissue
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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raylawpc wrote:
bollox wrote:Albert Griffiths (Young Griffo) claimant to the world feather title. Was once reputed to have stood in ring centre and not moved during the round. His opponent didn't land one punch. He was drunk at the time. Doc Kearns paid for his funeral to save him from being buried in a pauper's grave
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It was actually Tex Rickard who paid for his funeral.

Its an amusing story: In the last years of his life, Griffo made his way in life by begging outside theaters in NYC, and living on a mattress in somebody's basement.

When he died, people just assumed he was penniless. Rickard paid for his funeral, and got some good press for his benevolence. Then it was discovered that Griffo had a couple of thousand dollars squirreled away in a bank account. Rickard filed a claim against Griffo's estate to try and get his money back.

I'm sure Griffo would have gotten a kick out of putting it over on a promoter one last time.
What would two thousand dollars be worth back then?
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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kikibalt wrote:
bennie wrote:How are you feeling, Frankie?
Not good, Bennie, thanks for asking.... :(
Frank
At this point you have to clean out your colon. That's where everything gets backed up and rots. Then it gets absorbed in your system. You feel lousy. No enerrgy.

This morning I felt like hell. Had a temperature. Ate a teaspoon of psyllium husks in some peppermint tea with lemon. Cleaned me out. Feel much better. Staying in the house too much won't build youself back up. Get some fresh air.

You got to want to fight this pal. I know when you're sick,you want to just lie in bed. That's how I felt this morning. Hope you feel better soon. Rog
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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scartissue wrote:
kikibalt wrote:I was speaking to Don Fraser yesterday and he told me that Gwen Adair call him to invite him to go to the WBHOF as her guest (date?), but, he too is not feeling too good, he told her that he would let her know later on in the week, then he told something that I found very interesting, he said that us old guys are sitting in "God's waiting room", how true..... :oo
I'm selfishly hoping you can reschedule your appointment in that waiting room for awhile.

Scartissue
Shit,we're all sitting God's waiting room. The thing you want to do though is make a move on the nurse.
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kikibalt wrote:I was speaking to Don Fraser yesterday and he told me that Gwen Adair call him to invite him to go to the WBHOF as her guest (date?), but, he too is not feeling too good, he told her that he would let her know later on in the week, then he told something that I found very interesting, he said that us old guys are sitting in "God's waiting room", how true..... :oo
Frank, I called your house this morning. No answer. I'm concerned about you my friend. I'll be calling again. As with the rest of the guys, I'm disappointed that you won't be attending but more importantly Frank, we all just want you to take care of yourself and get better.

And no more talk about "God's waiting room" from you or Don!!
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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Guys, my daughter Meranda was in Las Vegas recently and ran into Floyd Mayweather Jr. I thought yo might enjoy the photo. My daughter Meranda is on the right, her friend Jesse ids on the left, and that's what's his name in the middle.

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Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing

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Rick Farris wrote:
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The Countdown begins. One week from today.

Randy :box:
I'm really looking forward to this. I'll be at the Mariott on Friday and will try to hook-up with Scar and Pug. Randy, would you E-mail your phone number? I'd like to give you a call. Lennox Lewis has confirmed he'll be there. Lennox refused any travel or living accomodations from the hall, a non-profit organization, he said "I'll pay my own way, just give me four tickets for the event." Last year, Larry Holmes demanded a dozen "first class" plane tickets, suites and accomodations for all of his group. When we said we'd only be able to cover the expenses for two, he refused to come. I have total respect for Lennox Lewis. I won't go into my opinion of Larry Holmes.

-Rick
Rick, My respect for Lewis just went up a notch. Larry Holmes? Great fighter but a jackass. As soon as I get off this thread Rick, I'll email you.

Randy :TU:
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