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Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 06:02 I definitely believe this is happening, Tyson wouldn’t just say something unless he was deadly serious.

stevec@france wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:46

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 06:02 I definitely believe this is happening, Tyson wouldn’t just say something unless he was deadly serious.

never

stevec@france wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:48 bad idea for joshua to even consider this after the loss IMHO .
he should stick to the plan of building up again with less daunting opposition and get back to winning .
Let Fury fight Usyk and see how he gets on with him .

big lennox wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 05:15

deadpan wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 05:10 It's got to be in the UK really to enable it to be free entry and reward the fans.

I wonder which terrestrial channel will be showing it?

Presumably, he will box Uysk that same evening as Fury said he can beat them both on the same night.

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:06

stevec@france wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:46

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 06:02 I definitely believe this is happening, Tyson wouldn’t just say something unless he was deadly serious.

never

100% Seems like they have called his bluff

Coco wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 06:34

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 05:17 Fury will of course use this as an opportunity to try and get the lion's share of the purse.

It's obviously a bit fight if it happens, even now - but I find it hard to believe they're going to negotiate this in time for December.

Doesn't happen.

The only offer on the table will be like 70-30, nevertheless it's still the biggest payday for AJ out there

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:58

Coco wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 06:34

jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 05:17 Fury will of course use this as an opportunity to try and get the lion's share of the purse.

It's obviously a bit fight if it happens, even now - but I find it hard to believe they're going to negotiate this in time for December.

Doesn't happen.

The only offer on the table will be like 70-30, nevertheless it's still the biggest payday for AJ out there

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 12:04

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:58

Coco wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 06:34

The only offer on the table will be like 70-30, nevertheless it's still the biggest payday for AJ out there

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 12:11

tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 12:04

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:58

Fury says he’s offered Joshua 60-40 which is extremely reasonable (if true lol)

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

Lol true things are much more complicated than simple purse breakdown. I’m so bored of hearing social media talk and unfulfilled fights. It’s so tiring. I want to hear about signed fights only.

Boxerbeetle wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 12:23

JamesPhilips wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 12:11

tonyevs wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 12:04

60-40 with no PPV or TV money .. plus a re-match clause and tied to Old-Fish-eyes for his next 10 fights .. or something worse

Lol true things are much more complicated than simple purse breakdown. I’m so bored of hearing social media talk and unfulfilled fights. It’s so tiring. I want to hear about signed fights only.

You might wanna stay away from this forum then, social media and unfulfilled fights are all we fvcking talk about

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:35

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 11:06

stevec@france wrote: ↑06 Sep 2022, 10:46

never

100% Seems like they have called his bluff

how so?

coneye wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 00:41 See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

big lennox wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 03:36

coneye wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 00:41 See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

This is exactly as I see it. Klitschko struggled in the fight before Fury and was not the Klitschko that Haye fought.

Wilder does have KO power but can't actually box very well and, as you said, boxed a lot of puddings for many years.

I dont get the hate for Joshua. Ruiz is a handful for everyone. I remember Evander Holyfield talking about sparring him and was really impressed. And there is zero shame in losing to Uysk. To date, Fury has managed to not box any of those three, who are world class fighters.

I can see Joshua stopping Fury. He needs to hit Fury to the body and slow him down. I doubt Fury will ever box Uysk. He clearly wants no part of him. Why else take on Whyte instead of Uysk and why else take on Joshua who has just lost, and not the winner who has three belts. Doesn't fancy it.

I think Joshua should train with anyone from this list of coaches:

Dominic Ingle
Adam Booth
Shane McGuigan
Dave Coldwell
Steffy Bull
Tony Simms

Alba wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 04:13

big lennox wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 03:36

coneye wrote: ↑07 Sep 2022, 00:41 See Fury is saying November 60-40 take it or leave it ,, AJ should tell him too STICK IT ,,, Its obvious Fury wants a fourth fight with Wilder ,, he's a bully knows he'll win with little risk ,,, OK i'm reading people say AJ has suffered 3 defeats , fair enough but look at who he fought , Usyk who i believe will do the same to Fury may even stop him , and Ruiz who when all said and done has very fast hands and is very good with a BIG PUNCH .

What will be peoples opinions if Wilder faces Ruiz in an eliminator and Ruiz lands on him , think the fury fights shown Wilder has the heart but not the chin , we all know if he lands that big hail mary right hand , Ruiz could go , but what if Ruiz counters with a big shot of his own ,, what i'm really saying is i'm not sure that Fury would off fared any better against Ruiz or Usyk than AJ did ,, , i do know that with Wilder Fury had some scary moments , and Wilder cannot box has good has AJ , but Joshua does have Wilder type power when he lands clean , and he will land clean against Fury ,, that slick moving style uncommon in Heavyweights which Fury USED to show is'nt there now his succes has come with this bigger heavier leaning , brawling type ,, which too be honest i think will suit AJ he does deliver a mean upercut , .

Fury sorry but i'm not understanding the hype , its all come on the back of 2 opponents , a aging klitchko who was well past his use by date , and lets not forget Fury would'nt rematch him ,, and a Wilder who built his whole reputation on a big punch against sub standard opponents ,, rest of the time He's ducked and dived the top players

But alas , the key ingredient to any future success AJ may or may not have is missing , A NEW TRAINER ,, i WAS HIM I'D GO BACK TO SIMMS

This is exactly as I see it. Klitschko struggled in the fight before Fury and was not the Klitschko that Haye fought.

Wilder does have KO power but can't actually box very well and, as you said, boxed a lot of puddings for many years.

I dont get the hate for Joshua. Ruiz is a handful for everyone. I remember Evander Holyfield talking about sparring him and was really impressed. And there is zero shame in losing to Uysk. To date, Fury has managed to not box any of those three, who are world class fighters.

I can see Joshua stopping Fury. He needs to hit Fury to the body and slow him down. I doubt Fury will ever box Uysk. He clearly wants no part of him. Why else take on Whyte instead of Uysk and why else take on Joshua who has just lost, and not the winner who has three belts. Doesn't fancy it.

I think Joshua should train with anyone from this list of coaches:

Dominic Ingle
Adam Booth
Shane McGuigan
Dave Coldwell
Steffy Bull
Tony Simms

Ha ha the only suitable trainers for him are British ones? Love that mentality