I think so, they have done so much damage to America, surely they will be held to account.Taansend wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 12:11Will they?Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 09:20
All these Morons will get there comeuppance when the regime falls.
We thought that last time & then especially so after January 6th & yet here we are.
Rubio is also full of crap. He is just as much in the swamp as the rest of them.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:13Mr big shoes is an ass kissing gimp too, yesterday he was saying Murcia should leave Nato too, because well becuase Trump said ao probably.
By who? Or whom, I never know.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:14I think so, they have done so much damage to America, surely they will be held to account.Taansend wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 12:11Will they?Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 09:20
All these Morons will get there comeuppance when the regime falls.
We thought that last time & then especially so after January 6th & yet here we are.
I think if the Dems get in they will make it their goal to destroy them.Taansend wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:40By who? Or whom, I never know.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:14I think so, they have done so much damage to America, surely they will be held to account.
The Democrats are pretty much leaderless. Half the adult population is onboard with the trump corruption regime & seem OK with him making billions while they live month to month. In fact they still buy his merch & donate to him.
My only hope is the under 40 crowd band together. Otherwise I think this lot just skate off with their billions & the weird Christian Stepford Wife culture stays intact.
They didn't last time.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 14:26
I think if the Dems get in they will make it their goal to destroy them.
One obvious thing they could add is that if a President ever calls into question the legitimacy of an Election, he will be automatically barred from running for anything.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 14:26I think if the Dems get in they will make it their goal to destroy them.Taansend wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:40By who? Or whom, I never know.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:14
I think so, they have done so much damage to America, surely they will be held to account.
The Democrats are pretty much leaderless. Half the adult population is onboard with the trump corruption regime & seem OK with him making billions while they live month to month. In fact they still buy his merch & donate to him.
My only hope is the under 40 crowd band together. Otherwise I think this lot just skate off with their billions & the weird Christian Stepford Wife culture stays intact.
It is quite astonishing, that a sitting president, could try and overturn an election they lost, and run for office - how on earth can that be allowed to happen - I guess the founding fathers just never thought that anybody would do that, but you would have thought, or that no party would support a candidate who did so.gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 21:58One obvious thing they could add is that if a President ever calls into question the legitimacy of an Election, he will be automatically barred from running for anything.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 14:26I think if the Dems get in they will make it their goal to destroy them.Taansend wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 13:40
By who? Or whom, I never know.
The Democrats are pretty much leaderless. Half the adult population is onboard with the trump corruption regime & seem OK with him making billions while they live month to month. In fact they still buy his merch & donate to him.
My only hope is the under 40 crowd band together. Otherwise I think this lot just skate off with their billions & the weird Christian Stepford Wife culture stays intact.
If a man is a convicted felon. He can't run for office.
Can't fix the current problem, but can prevent a future retread of it.
No intelligent person respects Trump. But many intelligent people voted for him to game the system. Way too much BS in our system. I wasn't aware until the 2024 election that county clerks could hold up or even overturn elections by refusing to certify.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:34It is quite astonishing, that a sitting president, could try and overturn an election they lost, and run for office - how on earth can that be allowed to happen - I guess the founding fathers just never thought that anybody would do that, but you would have thought, or that no party would support a candidate who did so.gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 21:58One obvious thing they could add is that if a President ever calls into question the legitimacy of an Election, he will be automatically barred from running for anything.Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 14:26
I think if the Dems get in they will make it their goal to destroy them.
If a man is a convicted felon. He can't run for office.
Can't fix the current problem, but can prevent a future retread of it.
The great weakness of the US constitution, in the end, is that it relied on the good faith of elected officials, to do what is best for their country, rather than themselves,.
Despite the fact most republicans loathe Trump, and know he is a terrible president, they would rather keep their job, and with it the ability to make money by gaming the system,
There are smart people who despise Trump, that are also beneficiaries of his fiscal policies - who I consider to be traitors, because their own self interest overrides anything else.Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:38No intelligent person respects Trump. But many intelligent people voted for him to game the system. Way too much BS in our system. I wasn't aware until the 2024 election that county clerks could hold up or even overturn elections by refusing to certify.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:34It is quite astonishing, that a sitting president, could try and overturn an election they lost, and run for office - how on earth can that be allowed to happen - I guess the founding fathers just never thought that anybody would do that, but you would have thought, or that no party would support a candidate who did so.gilgamesh wrote: ↑02 Apr 2026, 21:58
One obvious thing they could add is that if a President ever calls into question the legitimacy of an Election, he will be automatically barred from running for anything.
If a man is a convicted felon. He can't run for office.
Can't fix the current problem, but can prevent a future retread of it.
The great weakness of the US constitution, in the end, is that it relied on the good faith of elected officials, to do what is best for their country, rather than themselves,.
Despite the fact most republicans loathe Trump, and know he is a terrible president, they would rather keep their job, and with it the ability to make money by gaming the system,
I don't think MAGA will survive Trump because it is a love affair with a man. It's not an ideology. Trump has flipped flopped on every issue; his base doesn't care. The love affair is either homoerotic and/or people who desperately need a daddy. After the January 6th arrests several suspects admitted to both.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 10:01There are smart people who despise Trump, that are also beneficiaries of his fiscal policies - who I consider to be traitors, because their own self interest overrides anything else.Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:38No intelligent person respects Trump. But many intelligent people voted for him to game the system. Way too much BS in our system. I wasn't aware until the 2024 election that county clerks could hold up or even overturn elections by refusing to certify.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:34
It is quite astonishing, that a sitting president, could try and overturn an election they lost, and run for office - how on earth can that be allowed to happen - I guess the founding fathers just never thought that anybody would do that, but you would have thought, or that no party would support a candidate who did so.
The great weakness of the US constitution, in the end, is that it relied on the good faith of elected officials, to do what is best for their country, rather than themselves,.
Despite the fact most republicans loathe Trump, and know he is a terrible president, they would rather keep their job, and with it the ability to make money by gaming the system,
Yes Trump has exposed the cracks in the system, all any administration needs is to flood those electoral commissions with loyalists, and then they can rig elections with ease. It takes time to do so however, and I don't believe that the administration is organised enough to do that within this term.,
The real danger is if MAGA survives beyond Trump, I don't believe it does, but I've been wrong before - if it does, and they manage to either cling to power beyond this term (with our without Trump still leading), either by somehow conning the public into voting for them again, or simply seizing power and shutting down elections - then they will have plenty of time to finish the orbanisation of the US.
Everybody was warned again and again what Trump was going to do, hell, project 2025 pretty much laid it out for all to see.
I had a friend who I talked to about this prior to the election and he said I was 'hysterical,' 'it's just rhetoric,' 'Project 2025 isn't real' and various
When I pointed him to a link to project 2025's documentation online, he countered with 'Oh, so you've read all 500 pages have you' as if failing to do so rendered any opinion on the matter irrelevant - apparenly as I'd only read a summary then it was not admissable as evidence.
When the rampant corruption, ICE shootings and trashinig of civil liberties gather momentum, when the administration started to crack down on media organisations, and exceed the legal limits of the presidency - he went quiet.
Before the election he kepts saying that Trump would do well for Americans, that there would be peace, and stability - when I pointed out how badly things were going his response?
"Nobody's interested in your woke socialist opinions any more."
I find people in the UK who are devoted to Trump exceptionally odd, I generally find devotion to anyone or anything other than your own family/friends and your own moral code very odd anyway, but worshipping a foreign president or any politician for that matter, but especially one you didn't even vote for, or indeed could vote for, is frankly disturbed.
I've lost touch with my friend now, he is a serious alchoholic, who fell off the wagon recently and somehow blamed me for not kissing his ass constantly, and telling him that he needed to go get help before he fucked his life up - which he did - as his landlord kicked him out, because he kept badgering the neighbours when he was pissed and coked up - and now he's back living with his 80 something parents again.
I wonder whether Trump appeals to people who are having a rough time of things - some sort of twisted messiah figure, who they think will solve all their problems somehow.
It really is quite baffling
Everyone i personally know who supports Trump has a lot of that life ain't treating me fair, self pity thing going on.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 10:01There are smart people who despise Trump, that are also beneficiaries of his fiscal policies - who I consider to be traitors, because their own self interest overrides anything else.Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:38No intelligent person respects Trump. But many intelligent people voted for him to game the system. Way too much BS in our system. I wasn't aware until the 2024 election that county clerks could hold up or even overturn elections by refusing to certify.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 09:34
It is quite astonishing, that a sitting president, could try and overturn an election they lost, and run for office - how on earth can that be allowed to happen - I guess the founding fathers just never thought that anybody would do that, but you would have thought, or that no party would support a candidate who did so.
The great weakness of the US constitution, in the end, is that it relied on the good faith of elected officials, to do what is best for their country, rather than themselves,.
Despite the fact most republicans loathe Trump, and know he is a terrible president, they would rather keep their job, and with it the ability to make money by gaming the system,
Yes Trump has exposed the cracks in the system, all any administration needs is to flood those electoral commissions with loyalists, and then they can rig elections with ease. It takes time to do so however, and I don't believe that the administration is organised enough to do that within this term.,
The real danger is if MAGA survives beyond Trump, I don't believe it does, but I've been wrong before - if it does, and they manage to either cling to power beyond this term (with our without Trump still leading), either by somehow conning the public into voting for them again, or simply seizing power and shutting down elections - then they will have plenty of time to finish the orbanisation of the US.
Everybody was warned again and again what Trump was going to do, hell, project 2025 pretty much laid it out for all to see.
I had a friend who I talked to about this prior to the election and he said I was 'hysterical,' 'it's just rhetoric,' 'Project 2025 isn't real' and various
When I pointed him to a link to project 2025's documentation online, he countered with 'Oh, so you've read all 500 pages have you' as if failing to do so rendered any opinion on the matter irrelevant - apparenly as I'd only read a summary then it was not admissable as evidence.
When the rampant corruption, ICE shootings and trashinig of civil liberties gather momentum, when the administration started to crack down on media organisations, and exceed the legal limits of the presidency - he went quiet.
Before the election he kepts saying that Trump would do well for Americans, that there would be peace, and stability - when I pointed out how badly things were going his response?
"Nobody's interested in your woke socialist opinions any more."
I find people in the UK who are devoted to Trump exceptionally odd, I generally find devotion to anyone or anything other than your own family/friends and your own moral code very odd anyway, but worshipping a foreign president or any politician for that matter, but especially one you didn't even vote for, or indeed could vote for, is frankly disturbed.
I've lost touch with my friend now, he is a serious alchoholic, who fell off the wagon recently and somehow blamed me for not kissing his ass constantly, and telling him that he needed to go get help before he fucked his life up - which he did - as his landlord kicked him out, because he kept badgering the neighbours when he was pissed and coked up - and now he's back living with his 80 something parents again.
I wonder whether Trump appeals to people who are having a rough time of things - some sort of twisted messiah figure, who they think will solve all their problems somehow.
It really is quite baffling
I concur - I think the movement dies with Trump - it's a cult, and when the cult leader dies, the cult usually goes with it.Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 12:36I don't think MAGA will survive Trump because it is a love affair with a man. It's not an ideology. Trump has flipped flopped on every issue; his base doesn't care. The love affair is either homoerotic and/or people who desperately need a daddy. After the January 6th arrests several suspects admitted to both.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 10:01There are smart people who despise Trump, that are also beneficiaries of his fiscal policies - who I consider to be traitors, because their own self interest overrides anything else.
Yes Trump has exposed the cracks in the system, all any administration needs is to flood those electoral commissions with loyalists, and then they can rig elections with ease. It takes time to do so however, and I don't believe that the administration is organised enough to do that within this term.,
The real danger is if MAGA survives beyond Trump, I don't believe it does, but I've been wrong before - if it does, and they manage to either cling to power beyond this term (with our without Trump still leading), either by somehow conning the public into voting for them again, or simply seizing power and shutting down elections - then they will have plenty of time to finish the orbanisation of the US.
Everybody was warned again and again what Trump was going to do, hell, project 2025 pretty much laid it out for all to see.
I had a friend who I talked to about this prior to the election and he said I was 'hysterical,' 'it's just rhetoric,' 'Project 2025 isn't real' and various
When I pointed him to a link to project 2025's documentation online, he countered with 'Oh, so you've read all 500 pages have you' as if failing to do so rendered any opinion on the matter irrelevant - apparenly as I'd only read a summary then it was not admissable as evidence.
When the rampant corruption, ICE shootings and trashinig of civil liberties gather momentum, when the administration started to crack down on media organisations, and exceed the legal limits of the presidency - he went quiet.
Before the election he kepts saying that Trump would do well for Americans, that there would be peace, and stability - when I pointed out how badly things were going his response?
"Nobody's interested in your woke socialist opinions any more."
I find people in the UK who are devoted to Trump exceptionally odd, I generally find devotion to anyone or anything other than your own family/friends and your own moral code very odd anyway, but worshipping a foreign president or any politician for that matter, but especially one you didn't even vote for, or indeed could vote for, is frankly disturbed.
I've lost touch with my friend now, he is a serious alchoholic, who fell off the wagon recently and somehow blamed me for not kissing his ass constantly, and telling him that he needed to go get help before he fucked his life up - which he did - as his landlord kicked him out, because he kept badgering the neighbours when he was pissed and coked up - and now he's back living with his 80 something parents again.
I wonder whether Trump appeals to people who are having a rough time of things - some sort of twisted messiah figure, who they think will solve all their problems somehow.
It really is quite baffling
It is exceptionally weird. Far weirder than the whole trans thing. Gender confusion pales in comparison to being in love with a fan and feigning like it's nonsexual; for the most part it isn't.
Makes sense, - Trump's platform is one grievance and retribution.gilgamesh wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 13:23Everyone i personally know who supports Trump has a lot of that life ain't treating me fair, self pity thing going on.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 10:01There are smart people who despise Trump, that are also beneficiaries of his fiscal policies - who I consider to be traitors, because their own self interest overrides anything else.
Yes Trump has exposed the cracks in the system, all any administration needs is to flood those electoral commissions with loyalists, and then they can rig elections with ease. It takes time to do so however, and I don't believe that the administration is organised enough to do that within this term.,
The real danger is if MAGA survives beyond Trump, I don't believe it does, but I've been wrong before - if it does, and they manage to either cling to power beyond this term (with our without Trump still leading), either by somehow conning the public into voting for them again, or simply seizing power and shutting down elections - then they will have plenty of time to finish the orbanisation of the US.
Everybody was warned again and again what Trump was going to do, hell, project 2025 pretty much laid it out for all to see.
I had a friend who I talked to about this prior to the election and he said I was 'hysterical,' 'it's just rhetoric,' 'Project 2025 isn't real' and various
When I pointed him to a link to project 2025's documentation online, he countered with 'Oh, so you've read all 500 pages have you' as if failing to do so rendered any opinion on the matter irrelevant - apparenly as I'd only read a summary then it was not admissable as evidence.
When the rampant corruption, ICE shootings and trashinig of civil liberties gather momentum, when the administration started to crack down on media organisations, and exceed the legal limits of the presidency - he went quiet.
Before the election he kepts saying that Trump would do well for Americans, that there would be peace, and stability - when I pointed out how badly things were going his response?
"Nobody's interested in your woke socialist opinions any more."
I find people in the UK who are devoted to Trump exceptionally odd, I generally find devotion to anyone or anything other than your own family/friends and your own moral code very odd anyway, but worshipping a foreign president or any politician for that matter, but especially one you didn't even vote for, or indeed could vote for, is frankly disturbed.
I've lost touch with my friend now, he is a serious alchoholic, who fell off the wagon recently and somehow blamed me for not kissing his ass constantly, and telling him that he needed to go get help before he fucked his life up - which he did - as his landlord kicked him out, because he kept badgering the neighbours when he was pissed and coked up - and now he's back living with his 80 something parents again.
I wonder whether Trump appeals to people who are having a rough time of things - some sort of twisted messiah figure, who they think will solve all their problems somehow.
It really is quite baffling
It's a cult. And it won't survive because there's no heir apparent with anywhere near the appeal of Trump. You have to remember that Trump was a huge name before he turned to politics. You ask the average Joe to name three businessmen in America and none of them are going to tell you the CEOs of Walmart, General Motors or Proctor and Gamble. They're going to say Bezos, Trump and Bill Gates. There is simply no-one with that name appeal there in Maga. The only person that could theoretically take over the reigns is Elon Musk, but he can't be president.Tony1244 wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 12:36I don't think MAGA will survive Trump because it is a love affair with a man. It's not an ideology. Trump has flipped flopped on every issue; his base doesn't care. The love affair is either homoerotic and/or people who desperately need a daddy. After the January 6th arrests several suspects admitted to both.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 10:01There are smart people who despise Trump, that are also beneficiaries of his fiscal policies - who I consider to be traitors, because their own self interest overrides anything else.
Yes Trump has exposed the cracks in the system, all any administration needs is to flood those electoral commissions with loyalists, and then they can rig elections with ease. It takes time to do so however, and I don't believe that the administration is organised enough to do that within this term.,
The real danger is if MAGA survives beyond Trump, I don't believe it does, but I've been wrong before - if it does, and they manage to either cling to power beyond this term (with our without Trump still leading), either by somehow conning the public into voting for them again, or simply seizing power and shutting down elections - then they will have plenty of time to finish the orbanisation of the US.
Everybody was warned again and again what Trump was going to do, hell, project 2025 pretty much laid it out for all to see.
I had a friend who I talked to about this prior to the election and he said I was 'hysterical,' 'it's just rhetoric,' 'Project 2025 isn't real' and various
When I pointed him to a link to project 2025's documentation online, he countered with 'Oh, so you've read all 500 pages have you' as if failing to do so rendered any opinion on the matter irrelevant - apparenly as I'd only read a summary then it was not admissable as evidence.
When the rampant corruption, ICE shootings and trashinig of civil liberties gather momentum, when the administration started to crack down on media organisations, and exceed the legal limits of the presidency - he went quiet.
Before the election he kepts saying that Trump would do well for Americans, that there would be peace, and stability - when I pointed out how badly things were going his response?
"Nobody's interested in your woke socialist opinions any more."
I find people in the UK who are devoted to Trump exceptionally odd, I generally find devotion to anyone or anything other than your own family/friends and your own moral code very odd anyway, but worshipping a foreign president or any politician for that matter, but especially one you didn't even vote for, or indeed could vote for, is frankly disturbed.
I've lost touch with my friend now, he is a serious alchoholic, who fell off the wagon recently and somehow blamed me for not kissing his ass constantly, and telling him that he needed to go get help before he fucked his life up - which he did - as his landlord kicked him out, because he kept badgering the neighbours when he was pissed and coked up - and now he's back living with his 80 something parents again.
I wonder whether Trump appeals to people who are having a rough time of things - some sort of twisted messiah figure, who they think will solve all their problems somehow.
It really is quite baffling
It is exceptionally weird. Far weirder than the whole trans thing. Gender confusion pales in comparison to being in love with a fan and feigning like it's nonsexual; for the most part it isn't.
Yepp like Saint Charlie Kirk.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 13:37 I think the worst thing that could happen, is that Trump is killed whilst in office, that would make him into a Martyr, and then MAGA might live on, with Trump revered like some sort of latter day saint, or perhaps a fat orange bloviating che guevara.
Or even if they vote to Impeach him. No matter what he does. No matter how badly he tanks America. If he's impeached, he's being mistreated and it's unfair to him.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 13:37 I think the worst thing that could happen, is that Trump is killed whilst in office, that would make him into a Martyr, and then MAGA might live on, with Trump revered like some sort of latter day saint, or perhaps a fat orange bloviating che guevara.
Nothing will ever be done about the Epstein files. Too many people will stand in the way of it.conan_the_cribber wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 13:43Yepp like Saint Charlie Kirk.jamesmcdonnell wrote: ↑03 Apr 2026, 13:37 I think the worst thing that could happen, is that Trump is killed whilst in office, that would make him into a Martyr, and then MAGA might live on, with Trump revered like some sort of latter day saint, or perhaps a fat orange bloviating che guevara.
I don't want Trump to die in office. I want to see what happens when the Dems get control of all three houses again and get to the bottom of the Epstein files.