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Oscar De La Hoya leaves hospital, heads home to Puerto Rico

The man who calls Oscar De La Hoya his best friend said Sunday morning that the fighter is out of the hospital, with no broken bones, and will now return to his Puerto Rico home before likely finalizing his decision to retire.

"No one can make that decision for him," said Richard Schaefer, the chief executive of De La Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions. "We've laid the foundation for this time. Oscar has entertained millions of boxing fans over the years, and we always knew there'd be a time where he'd take that success and move into a different part of the sport."

That time clearly appeared to arrive Saturday night, when Manny Pacquiao of the Philippines shredded De La Hoya with quick punches and footwork, battering the proud 10-time former world champion before a capacity crowd of more than 15,000 at MGM Grand in Las Vegas and a pay-per-view audience expected to surpass 1 million.

Schaefer was sitting near ringside. He watched in concern as Pacquiao so overwhelmed De La Hoya in the seventh that judges awarded him a 10-8 round without a knockdown. Schaefer said after the eighth, he grabbed a giveaway towel from his seat and approached the corner to get the attention of De La Hoya trainer "Nacho" Beristain. Schaefer said De La Hoya's wife, Millie, was nearby, upset at her husband's battering.

"What's the point?" Schaefer said he shouted at Beristain.

And seconds later, the De La Hoya corner threw in the towel. De La Hoya admitted to Pacquiao's trainer and his own ex-trainer Freddie Roach in the ring that he "didn't have it anymore."

So now, Schaefer said he'll initiate discussions with Pacquiao promoter Bob Arum this week to create a Pacquiao fight with Golden Boy fighter Ricky Hatton, likely at 140 pounds, perhaps in April.

"I'm sure Manny wants to go home and enjoy the birth of his child," Schaefer said. "But we'll start talking and see where it goes."

Barring the unexpected, De La Hoya will preside over the bout as a full-time promoter.

-- Lance Pugmire

I don't remember if I have posted this story before, its about the murder
of Vic Weiss, manager of Mando Muniz

I feel the same, Randy. Match him with Hatton next at 140lbs. I bet Manny busts him up worse than Mayweather did. Then, one final bout and kiss boxing good bye before he ends up like Oscar did last night. Two big money fights, then run for office in Manila. As much as I respect Manny Pac, I think a Margarito match would be a mistake.

Manny turns thirty next week. Take the money and run!

-Rick[/quote]

I don't like a Margarito match for him either. I never liked him at 147. Not to take anything away from his greatest victory, but from what I've heard (still haven't seen the fight), that clearly wasn't DeLaHoya he was in with on Saturday, just someone trying to fight on memory. If I was Freddie Roach, I would have him savor the moment and then drop down to the more palatable 135 and take on Juan Manuel Marquez in match number III. Their first two matches were tremendous, both decisions disputed and Marquez, like Manny, has since won a fraction of the 135 lb. title. I think this match would pack them in once again.

Scartissue

Randyman wrote:

kikibalt wrote:
Speedy Cabanella, you'll fine his name on mario Trigo's record.

I looked up his record. He lost 17 of his 33 fights. I was beginning to think all the Filipinos were unbeatable.

Randy

Speedy was also the father of Fernando Cabanela. I don't know if you guys remember him. He lost to Masao Ohba for the flyweight title and Soo Hwan Hong and Carlos Zarate for the bantamweight titles. I saw him beat one of my favorites at the time, Halimi Gutierrez, whom I thought was unbeatable at flyweight after beating Erbito Salavaria. It was a tremendous 12 rounder they put on. Gutierrez was really nailing Cabanela with great shots but Cabanela really had some range on little Halimi and successfully kept him at bay to cop the decision. Good fight, great fighters.

Scartissue

Keep an eye out for Martin Rogan, the big Belfast thumper who shocked Audley Harrison on a 10-round decision on the Khan-Fagan bill in London over the weekend. Unbeaten Rogan, 11-0 (5), has left it late to make an impact in the pro ranks at 37 but his win over Harrison might just snare him a big fight early next year, especially as he is backed by powerful British promoter F rank Warren.
You would like Rogan, an 'honest' heavyweight in the mould of former Belfast heavyweight star Danny McAlinden. Aggressive and iron-chinned, he was given no chance against the giant Harrison, a former Olympic champion with all the tools, but refused to allow better-boxing Audley to steal the rounds, as is Audley's mindset, and won the fight on 'will'.
A taxi driver by day, Rogan is totally, totally refreshing.

bennie wrote:Keep an eye out for Martin Rogan, the big Belfast thumper who shocked Audley Harrison on a 10-round decision on the Khan-Fagan bill in London over the weekend. Unbeaten Rogan, 11-0 (5), has left it late to make an impact in the pro ranks at 37 but his win over Harrison might just snare him a big fight early next year, especially as he is backed by powerful British promoter F rank Warren.
You would like Rogan, an 'honest' heavyweight in the mould of former Belfast heavyweight star Danny McAlinden. Aggressive and iron-chinned, he was given no chance against the giant Harrison, a former Olympic champion with all the tools, but refused to allow better-boxing Audley to steal the rounds, as is Audley's mindset, and won the fight on 'will'.
A taxi driver by day, Rogan is totally, totally refreshing.

Kind of old, no, Bennie?

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:Keep an eye out for Martin Rogan, the big Belfast thumper who shocked Audley Harrison on a 10-round decision on the Khan-Fagan bill in London over the weekend. Unbeaten Rogan, 11-0 (5), has left it late to make an impact in the pro ranks at 37 but his win over Harrison might just snare him a big fight early next year, especially as he is backed by powerful British promoter F rank Warren.
You would like Rogan, an 'honest' heavyweight in the mould of former Belfast heavyweight star Danny McAlinden. Aggressive and iron-chinned, he was given no chance against the giant Harrison, a former Olympic champion with all the tools, but refused to allow better-boxing Audley to steal the rounds, as is Audley's mindset, and won the fight on 'will'.
A taxi driver by day, Rogan is totally, totally refreshing.

Kind of old, no, Bennie?

Indeed. He has to make his move now (and already has, really, by beating the slick Harrison). I would put him on a par with someone like Chris Arreola.

From the LATimes Blog

Scary night at the Forum, where a riot broke out after a fight.

Lionel Rose defeated Chucho Castillo in a split decision to retain the world's bantamweight boxing title, then fans started throwing what The Times' Frank Finch called "a barrage of bottles and debris."

"Fires were set high in the arena's cheap seats," Finch wrote. "At one time 11 separate blazes were counted. The Inglewood Fire Department was called to save the building."

The next fight on the card was stopped in the third round and the final fight of the night was canceled.

In a stories the following day in The Times, the promoter claimed that troublemakers had been hired to ruin the fight. But Dial Torgerson reported that "more than 5,000 Mexican nationals crossed the border in cars and buses" to see the fight. "The cheapest seat in the Forum was $7.50 and many Mexicans paid $35 for main-floor seats--a large sum in Mexico.

"Receivers were ripped from pay telephones outside and the phone books burned. Numerous cars were damaged. Two remained in the debris-filled parking lot Saturday: a Mustang with four slashed tires and a 1967 Cadillac which had been set afire."

No arrests were made, police said in part because of the number of people involved. "By the time we got enough reinforcements there those people just got back in their buses and disappeared," an unnamed Inglewood police official told Torgerson. "How could we say which ones threw which rocks?"

Torgerson's story included a tacky comment from Jack Kent Cooke, whose Lakers and Kings teams played in the Forum. Repairs were made in time for the Kings to play the next night. "Cooke, outwardly unperturbed amid the drifting smoke and breaking bottles of the Friday night fight aftermath told an associate: "I'm glad Mexicans don't like hockey."

Stupid thing to say, no matter the situation.

bennie wrote:

kikibalt wrote:

bennie wrote:Keep an eye out for Martin Rogan, the big Belfast thumper who shocked Audley Harrison on a 10-round decision on the Khan-Fagan bill in London over the weekend. Unbeaten Rogan, 11-0 (5), has left it late to make an impact in the pro ranks at 37 but his win over Harrison might just snare him a big fight early next year, especially as he is backed by powerful British promoter F rank Warren.
You would like Rogan, an 'honest' heavyweight in the mould of former Belfast heavyweight star Danny McAlinden. Aggressive and iron-chinned, he was given no chance against the giant Harrison, a former Olympic champion with all the tools, but refused to allow better-boxing Audley to steal the rounds, as is Audley's mindset, and won the fight on 'will'.
A taxi driver by day, Rogan is totally, totally refreshing.

Kind of old, no, Bennie?

Indeed. He has to make his move now (and already has, really, by beating the slick Harrison). I would put him on a par with someone like Chris Arreola.

Well, Bennie, "on a par with Chris Arreola", is not saying too much for Rogan. I hope he is better then Arreola.

Not really, Frankie. He is white, after all.

bennie wrote:Not really, Frankie. He is white, after all.

And, he doesn't eat menudo, right?....

Interesting article on Castillo-Rose, Frank. Do you have page 5 so we can read the rest of it?

I thought the comment by Parnassus that he was through promoting at the Forum was interesting. The Forum's "retirement" from boxing lasted all of what? A month?

bennie wrote:Keep an eye out for Martin Rogan, the big Belfast thumper who shocked Audley Harrison on a 10-round decision on the Khan-Fagan bill in London over the weekend. Unbeaten Rogan, 11-0 (5), has left it late to make an impact in the pro ranks at 37 but his win over Harrison might just snare him a big fight early next year, especially as he is backed by powerful British promoter F rank Warren.
You would like Rogan, an 'honest' heavyweight in the mould of former Belfast heavyweight star Danny McAlinden. Aggressive and iron-chinned, he was given no chance against the giant Harrison, a former Olympic champion with all the tools, but refused to allow better-boxing Audley to steal the rounds, as is Audley's mindset, and won the fight on 'will'.
A taxi driver by day, Rogan is totally, totally refreshing.

Danny McAlinden - that's a name I haven't heard in a long-time.

Wasn't he the fighter who, as soon as the bell rang at the end of a fight, vaulted through the ropes and ran to the dressing room without waiting for the decision because he had to use the bathroom?

Iron-jaw - weak bladder.

raylawpc wrote:Interesting article on Castillo-Rose, Frank. Do you have page 5 so we can read the rest of it?

I thought the comment by Parnassus that he was through promoting at the Forum was interesting. The Forum's "retirement" from boxing lasted all of what? A month?

Welcome back, Tom, I knew you couldn't stay away from the good 'OL USA, no, I don't have page 5, sorry. Parnassus?, hell, he was just pissed off for the moment.....

kikibalt wrote:

raylawpc wrote:Interesting article on Castillo-Rose, Frank. Do you have page 5 so we can read the rest of it?

I thought the comment by Parnassus that he was through promoting at the Forum was interesting. The Forum's "retirement" from boxing lasted all of what? A month?

Welcome back, Tom, I knew you couldn't stay away from the good 'OL USA, no, I don't have page 5, sorry. Parnassus?, hell, he was just pissed off for the moment.....

Well, the Kiwi's wouldn't grant me politicial asylum. The fact that President Obama will probably tax the hell out of me wasn't considered sufficient grounds to grant asylum. Oh well . . .

About Parnassus, I remember one time in Oklahoma City something pissed off O'Grady (I don't even remember what it was), and he ceremoniously announced to the press at the end of the card that "Oklahoma City has seen its last boxing match." Two days later I was typing up the press release announcing our next boxing card . . .

On Mario Trigo:

We were publicizing Art Aragon heavily at Hollywood Legion Stadium when he pulled away from us to accept Mario Trigo as an opponent at the Olympic Auditorium. We didn't like the match for him and told him so, but the bout went through.

The result was an upset win for Trigo who out pointed Art decisively in ten rounds. It was definitely a set-back for the "Golden Boy", who claimed he had been sickened by a faulty heater in his dressing room.

Mario Trigo was capable of baffling any opponent because of his unorthodox ring style, a switch hitter flicking punches from all angles.....an enigmatic sort that proved too much for our "Golden Boy".

The only man I ever saw that nailed Mario Trigo solidly to knock him out cold was Enrique Bolanos.

I hope this does it Rick.

Regards, Hap

E-mail from a friend

Boy! If this little girls voice doesn't bring a smile and a tear? Then you need rewound. PL

I'd seen the first one but not the second....and she just can't be only 6 years old...WOW is right....

PLEASE WATCH BOTH VIDEOS, THIS LITTLE GIRL IS INCREDIBLE...She is only six years old!

If you delete this without watching it, you are
missing one of the most amazing things ever. The
second video is even better than the first
one. Turn up your sound and enjoy:



Clip 1: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/ <http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/>

Clip 2: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/ <http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/>

kikibalt wrote:E-mail from a friend

Boy! If this little girls voice doesn't bring a smile and a tear? Then you need rewound. PL

I'd seen the first one but not the second....and she just can't be only 6 years old...WOW is right....

PLEASE WATCH BOTH VIDEOS, THIS LITTLE GIRL IS INCREDIBLE...She is only six years old!

If you delete this without watching it, you are
missing one of the most amazing things ever. The
second video is even better than the first
one. Turn up your sound and enjoy:



Clip 1: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/ <http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/>

Clip 2: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/ <http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/>

40 Million

Connie, when you walked out on that stage I don't think there was a person who didn't want to see you knock them dead. I mean you're 5 years old. And you're going to sing without back up,and in front of 3 judges. You could have faltered and we have still loved you. Maybe little kids don't have nerves. Maybe little kids aren't liars.Well you didn't let that smile down. Not a flaw. You were in charge. You left us crying. i bet you make the Queen cry too.

Oscar,when you walked out of your corner at the opening bell,all your fans wanted to see you knock Manny out.I mean you're 35 years old. And you're out there by yourself in front of 3 judges. You could have gone out like a warrior and your fans would have still loved you. Maybe you were nervous and it got the best of you. Maybe you didn't tell us the truth when you said you were in the best shape of your life. Well Manny knocked that smile right off your face. You were a flawed fighter. You left your fans crying. Only difference will be you'll be laughing all the way to the bank.

Rog, I'm glad to see you online. Jeri and I were worried about you and Maria, with that big plane crash in a San Diego neighborhood. Good to know you're okay!!

Randy

kikibalt wrote:E-mail from a friend

Boy! If this little girls voice doesn't bring a smile and a tear? Then you need rewound. PL

I'd seen the first one but not the second....and she just can't be only 6 years old...WOW is right....

PLEASE WATCH BOTH VIDEOS, THIS LITTLE GIRL IS INCREDIBLE...She is only six years old!

If you delete this without watching it, you are
missing one of the most amazing things ever. The
second video is even better than the first
one. Turn up your sound and enjoy:



Clip 1: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/ <http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/7383/1/>

Clip 2: http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/ <http://www.tagtele.com/videos/voir/19214/1/>

I'm flabbergasted!! This little girl was given a gift from God. Unbelievable.

raylawpc wrote:Interesting article on Castillo-Rose, Frank. Do you have page 5 so we can read the rest of it?

I thought the comment by Parnassus that he was through promoting at the Forum was interesting. The Forum's "retirement" from boxing lasted all of what? A month?

Goof to see you back Tom. I forgot to remind Rick, about the autograph from Muniz. Sorry

Randyman wrote:Rog, I'm glad to see you online. Jeri and I were worried about you and Maria, with that big plane crash in a San Diego neighborhood. Good to know you're okay!!

Randy

I thought the same thing Randy.
I'm glad that plane didnt get near Rog and Maria and family.

A Bit More on Mario Trigo:

For a brief spell Trigo was under the management of lightweight boxer Joey Barnum. When they parted company one party challenged the other and what appeared to be a grudge match was made into a main event at Ocean Park Arena, where the more seasoned manager (Barnum) won a clear verdict over his former protege (Trigo). Strange, huh?

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