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Fury could come out blazing, push him back, beat him to the punch and pound his way to an early stoppage. That won't be the case of course, Luke is going to carry him and it will almost certainly go the distance.

And to think, he could have fought Usyk.

1194265 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2023, 15:34 Fury could come out blazing, push him back, beat him to the punch and pound his way to an early stoppage. That won't be the case of course, Luke is going to carry him and it will almost certainly go the distance.

And to think, he could have fought Usyk.

I think it will definitely be a soft referee stoppage in the middle rounds. Ngannou catching too many head shots. Ironic in a way, that this is a total mismatch as a boxing match, and if it was an mma fight, it would be a total mismatch the other way around. I think it would be about 100 times more interesting if they did the Eubank/Benn 3 format of gladiator games in boiling hot southern Europe. That might actually be fun!

Even Luke Fury's most ardent fans can't be paying £30 for this nonsense on PPV.

1194265 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2023, 17:22 Even Luke Fury's most ardent fans can't be paying £30 for this nonsense on PPV.

Thats the crazy thing THEY WILL , Doofus , will be there with his banner leader of the cheer squad , pom poms and all , Mickey with his trumpet and tamboorine , leading Bye Bye Miss American Pie ,
50,000 gypsys , all coked and pissed up , pretending they were not born and raised in a council house , staking claim to being a traveller cos they went to Blackpool caravan park for a week in summer holidays

Be a momentous affair , me like i said i've already set my alarm to get up early , and go for a motorbike ride in the rain , If its not raining , i'll take the dog for a walk , both should be a lot more interesting than this fight , after all its exciting thinking of it , i could slide in the rain and get killed , or my little white fluffy lap dog , could attack an alsation , and maul it . , The thought of both is more exciting and more likely to happen than this sharade being a competetive bout .

Little Eddie and teaboy Smith will be tuning in paying the £30, his phone will ping, its the 3 time loser asking 'Are you taking notes?' Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


Fury will BREAK RECORDS, those MMA fans have DEEP DEEP pockets, they will buy ANYTHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING

Enjoy the S**T fight in London, August 12th between 2 F****G LOSERS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Won't sell out and the PPV will BOMB HARD hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lol

I hope all the PPVs bomb hard, the whole model just needs to fvck off.

Anybody who pays for this farce is a complete chose.

I hope it bombs--hard. And Fury gets knocked cold. Embarrass him completely.

Hope Ngannou leaves with Paris on his arm after the fight too.

coneye wrote: ↑13 Jul 2023, 17:59

1194265 wrote: ↑13 Jul 2023, 17:22 Even Luke Fury's most ardent fans can't be paying £30 for this nonsense on PPV.

Thats the crazy thing THEY WILL , Doofus , will be there with his banner leader of the cheer squad , pom poms and all , Mickey with his trumpet and tamboorine , leading Bye Bye Miss American Pie ,
50,000 gypsys , all coked and pissed up , pretending they were not born and raised in a council house , staking claim to being a traveller cos they went to Blackpool caravan park for a week in summer holidays

Be a momentous affair , me like i said i've already set my alarm to get up early , and go for a motorbike ride in the rain , If its not raining , i'll take the dog for a walk , both should be a lot more interesting than this fight , after all its exciting thinking of it , i could slide in the rain and get killed , or my little white fluffy lap dog , could attack an alsation , and maul it . , The thought of both is more exciting and more likely to happen than this sharade being a competetive bout .

I really don't see it doing any sort of decent numbers - Fury nor Ngannou have proved they are able to shift good PPVs. 95% (at least) of comments I read on social media are negative to Fury.
Even Dribble (above) sees it as a sh1t event.

I'll take a guess and say no more than 250k buys.

It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

Shaq is about 4 times the size of De La Hoya. Fury is bigger than Ngannou.

Forget numbers and money. Pure and simple, this is a dangerous fight to make. It's not an exhibition. Its a fight and they are pitting someone with a 0-0-0 record with the WBC Heavyweight Champion of the World. Its mental.

What will you say when after this mismatch, Fury takes on Wilder for the 4th time ( as mandatory) or Jones in another crossover fight? It's quite clear that Fury does not fancy the job against Uysk.

If Dubois somehow strikes it lucky, I bet Fury will suddenly be interested in a unification match.

On one of the comments I was reading , someone said what Fury is doing is this:

You have two F1 drivers neck and neck and it all comes down to the final race of the season, and one of the drivers decides to go and do a charity race against a golfer instead.

It's pathetic, but more importantly, it's really dangerous. What happens if Ngannou gets badly hurt. Who will be responsible?

I don't understand how the BBBC can sanction this.

Out of interest, why did Fury want the rematch clause taken out of the Uysk fight with his promoter saying that Fury didn't want to be bound by one etc and they aren't necessary. And, yet, he has insisted on there being a rematch clause in the Ngannou contract ( according to Ngannou's manager)

big lennox wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 04:49

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

Shaq is about 4 times the size of De La Hoya. Fury is bigger than Ngannou.

Forget numbers and money. Pure and simple, this is a dangerous fight to make. It's not an exhibition. Its a fight and they are pitting someone with a 0-0-0 record with the WBC Heavyweight Champion of the World. Its mental.

What will you say when after this mismatch, Fury takes on Wilder for the 4th time ( as mandatory) or Jones in another crossover fight? It's quite clear that Fury does not fancy the job against Uysk.

If Dubois somehow strikes it lucky, I bet Fury will suddenly be interested in a unification match.

On one of the comments I was reading , someone said what Fury is doing is this:

You have two F1 drivers neck and neck and it all comes down to the final race of the season, and one of the drivers decides to go and do a charity race against a golfer instead.

It's pathetic, but more importantly, it's really dangerous. What happens if Ngannou gets badly hurt. Who will be responsible?

I don't understand how the BBBC can sanction this.

It's all about the money

Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 04:57

big lennox wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 04:49

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

Shaq is about 4 times the size of De La Hoya. Fury is bigger than Ngannou.

Forget numbers and money. Pure and simple, this is a dangerous fight to make. It's not an exhibition. Its a fight and they are pitting someone with a 0-0-0 record with the WBC Heavyweight Champion of the World. Its mental.

What will you say when after this mismatch, Fury takes on Wilder for the 4th time ( as mandatory) or Jones in another crossover fight? It's quite clear that Fury does not fancy the job against Uysk.

If Dubois somehow strikes it lucky, I bet Fury will suddenly be interested in a unification match.

On one of the comments I was reading , someone said what Fury is doing is this:

You have two F1 drivers neck and neck and it all comes down to the final race of the season, and one of the drivers decides to go and do a charity race against a golfer instead.

It's pathetic, but more importantly, it's really dangerous. What happens if Ngannou gets badly hurt. Who will be responsible?

I don't understand how the BBBC can sanction this.

It's all about the money

Would Fury not earn more money boxing Uysk in Saudi than what he is getting to face Ngannou?

big lennox wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 05:13

Coco wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 04:57

big lennox wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 04:49

Shaq is about 4 times the size of De La Hoya. Fury is bigger than Ngannou.

Forget numbers and money. Pure and simple, this is a dangerous fight to make. It's not an exhibition. Its a fight and they are pitting someone with a 0-0-0 record with the WBC Heavyweight Champion of the World. Its mental.

What will you say when after this mismatch, Fury takes on Wilder for the 4th time ( as mandatory) or Jones in another crossover fight? It's quite clear that Fury does not fancy the job against Uysk.

If Dubois somehow strikes it lucky, I bet Fury will suddenly be interested in a unification match.

On one of the comments I was reading , someone said what Fury is doing is this:

You have two F1 drivers neck and neck and it all comes down to the final race of the season, and one of the drivers decides to go and do a charity race against a golfer instead.

It's pathetic, but more importantly, it's really dangerous. What happens if Ngannou gets badly hurt. Who will be responsible?

I don't understand how the BBBC can sanction this.

It's all about the money

Would Fury not earn more money boxing Uysk in Saudi than what he is getting to face Ngannou?

Maybe not, and of course against Ngannou he is being paid vast sums for pantomime

Also you can see footballers taking Saudi money rather than playing in real leagues.

I'm sure racing drivers would race against golfers if they got paid more to do it,

Nightmare Roy wrote: ↑13 Jul 2023, 14:59

Kilburn wrote: ↑13 Jul 2023, 14:49 I don’t like the fight, at all, and as far as I can tell there was zero demand for it to happen.

But a modern day UFC heavyweight champion is not equivalent to an area level boxer. That’s just daft, frankly.

The fight utter dog shit but it will still do big numbers

Not just big numbers. Huge numbers. Casuals will be paying for it hand over fist.

Reading that Ngannou will make more money from this single fight than he did in his entire UFC career. In fact, probably twice as much.

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 05:59 Reading that Ngannou will make more money from this single fight than he did in his entire UFC career. In fact, probably twice as much.

....and some people say boxing is losing the battle to UFC.

1194265 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:02

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 05:59 Reading that Ngannou will make more money from this single fight than he did in his entire UFC career. In fact, probably twice as much.

....and some people say boxing is losing the battle to UFC.

Had to laugh at Dana White claiming this fight is a 'waste of time and money'. :lol:

Not for your former UFC boy it isn't Dana and if he had been getting paid what he is worth he probably wouldn't be taking this fight. Joke is squarely on you.

Eddie months ago was saying Joshua fighting Ngannou would be huge

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

It's nonsense to think those complaining about it most will view it the most - it's PPV so £25plus .. nope the best hope is the MMA casuals get mugged into buying it. And I simply don't see it.

If they dressed it up as Ngannou and Jon Jones doing a tag team type scenario against Fury with boxing rules then maybe the MMA crowd may feel that evens out the deficits enough to make it competitive.
But an older smaller guy with no boxing experience fighting the heavyweight champion?? Nah, not even the MMA crowd are daft enough to waste their money on it.

They will no doubt fill out the venue with celebrities but PPV will be dire.

We'll see anyways

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:14

1194265 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:02

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 05:59 Reading that Ngannou will make more money from this single fight than he did in his entire UFC career. In fact, probably twice as much.

....and some people say boxing is losing the battle to UFC.

Had to laugh at Dana White claiming this fight is a 'waste of time and money'.

Not for your former UFC boy it isn't Dana and if he had been getting paid what he is worth he probably wouldn't be taking this fight. Joke is squarely on you.

That's Dana using soft psychology and his influence to dissuade the UFC fans from buying it .. clever tactics; Dana doesn't want others being a success as McGregor was.

tonyevs wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:22

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

It's nonsense to think those complaining about it most will view it the most - it's PPV so £25plus .. nope the best hope is the MMA casuals get mugged into buying it. And I simply don't see it.

If they dressed it up as Ngannou and Jon Jones doing a tag team type scenario against Fury with boxing rules then maybe the MMA crowd may feel that evens out the deficits enough to make it competitive.
But an older smaller guy with no boxing experience fighting the heavyweight champion?? Nah, not even the MMA crowd are daft enough to waste their money on it.

They will no doubt fill out the venue with celebrities but PPV will be dire.

We'll see anyways

The casuals is where the big money comes from and the casuals will lap this up just like they lapped up Mayweather-McGregor.

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:26

tonyevs wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:22

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

It's nonsense to think those complaining about it most will view it the most - it's PPV so £25plus .. nope the best hope is the MMA casuals get mugged into buying it. And I simply don't see it.

If they dressed it up as Ngannou and Jon Jones doing a tag team type scenario against Fury with boxing rules then maybe the MMA crowd may feel that evens out the deficits enough to make it competitive.
But an older smaller guy with no boxing experience fighting the heavyweight champion?? Nah, not even the MMA crowd are daft enough to waste their money on it.

They will no doubt fill out the venue with celebrities but PPV will be dire.

We'll see anyways

The casuals is where the big money comes from and the casuals will lap this up just like they lapped up Mayweather-McGregor.

Is Ngannou a know to the general public?

I don't follow UFC and I'd never heard of him until he was mentioned in relation to boxers.

With Mayweather vs McGregor they were obviously both crossover stars in their own right.

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:14

1194265 wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:02

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 05:59 Reading that Ngannou will make more money from this single fight than he did in his entire UFC career. In fact, probably twice as much.

....and some people say boxing is losing the battle to UFC.

Had to laugh at Dana White claiming this fight is a 'waste of time and money'.

Not for your former UFC boy it isn't Dana and if he had been getting paid what he is worth he probably wouldn't be taking this fight. Joke is squarely on you.

Easily double his entire career earnings, his biggest ever purse was $600k. They get robbed in the UFC, disgraceful.

Redback Rasta wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:26

tonyevs wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 06:22

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59 It'll do good numbers largely because the people complaining the most about it will view it the most. I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational. This is prizefighting gentlemen, and money is the name of the game. If Fury is getting huge money for a low risk bout then the Usyk match is going to be extremely expensive.

It's nonsense to think those complaining about it most will view it the most - it's PPV so £25plus .. nope the best hope is the MMA casuals get mugged into buying it. And I simply don't see it.

If they dressed it up as Ngannou and Jon Jones doing a tag team type scenario against Fury with boxing rules then maybe the MMA crowd may feel that evens out the deficits enough to make it competitive.
But an older smaller guy with no boxing experience fighting the heavyweight champion?? Nah, not even the MMA crowd are daft enough to waste their money on it.

They will no doubt fill out the venue with celebrities but PPV will be dire.

We'll see anyways

The casuals is where the big money comes from and the casuals will lap this up just like they lapped up Mayweather-McGregor.

I agree in part.

However Mayweather and McGregor were each very good at selling PPVs.
It was also the first big crossover of UFC and boxing .. and Mayweather had his own team promoting it to the hardcore boxing crowd and Dana pulled out all the stops selling it to the UFC crowd.
But now Fury is at the stage where he has lost his previous popularity .. of course there are a few hardcore fans as Doofy/Dribble/Mick demonstrate .. but they too are a very small minority.
With Dana doing his best to dissuade the UFC fans .. that then will feed into the casuals too.

It's great Ngannou is making good money and I certainly don't begrudge him. And whilst I feel Fury is just taking and taking from boxing, it's easy to see the sense of making millions risk free.

Fury had real potential to make a positive and enviable legacy in boxing. He appeared to have the skills to dominate over a very poor era. He may have been able to emulate something like Lennox Lewis respect, but instead he has taken the Nik Valuev route.

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑14 Jul 2023, 03:59I'm kinda amused at all the negativity because I don't recall people flipping out when De LA Hoya fought Shaq, etc. It's irrational.

DLH fought Shaq in a five round exhibition, for a segment in a reality show, after he'd retired. Probably why.