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Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 18:21
by Robinson
Good match up. RJJ pecks and flicks his way to a win.
Out pacing Max who tries to land his conuyters. Though
fast his timing is not enough. The foot work and movement
help RJJ establish a good solid lead. The Germans in the crowd
boo. But RJJ wins a safe decision.
Jones Jr UD
George Foreman (1973) Vs Jack Johnson (1910) 15 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 19:15
by AngryGoon38
Robinson wrote:Good match up. RJJ pecks and flicks his way to a win.
Out pacing Max who tries to land his conuyters. Though
fast his timing is not enough. The foot work and movement
help RJJ establish a good solid lead. The Germans in the crowd
boo. But RJJ wins a safe decision.
Jones Jr UD
George Foreman (1973) Vs Jack Johnson (1910) 15 rounds.
Johnson by MD15.Foreman decks em early but Johnson endures and gets better as the battle carries on into the later rounds.
Vinny Pazienza vs Rocky Mattioli @ 154
12 Rounds
Bout held in Italy 8)
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 19:59
by allworld80
Vinny Paz takes it to him from the opening bell, and batters Rocky around the ring in the early going. Matioli scores a flash knockdown in the 7th, but continues to get beaten soundly the rest of the way. Solid UD for Paz.
Emile Griffith vs Felix Trinidad, primes for both, @147
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 11 Mar 2009, 21:41
by Goodnight, Irene
Griffith way too much for the comparatively-limited Trinidad, who never gets to land the punch he needs to facilitate a serious onslaught. Griffith decisions him, 9-3.
1973 Kenny Norton vs. prime versions of the following men, all over fifteen rounds...
Wlad & Vitali Klitschko
Michael Spinks
Jack Johnson
Ezzard Charles
Gene Tunney
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 04:32
by Robinson
Wlad TKO Norton 5
Vitali TKO Norton 6
M. Spinks SD Norton
Norton TKO Johnson 8
Norton MD Charles
Norton UD Tunney
Archie Moore (1955) Vs Jimmy Young (1977) 15 rounds.
and
Tommy Burns (1906) Vs Peter Jackson (1892) 15 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 10:02
by harrygreb
archie has a tough time working out young and hits the floor in round 3 whilst doing so. from then on though he has more success popping jabs and slipping youngs counters. last round its just about moore in front young knows it.
jimmy presses forward but archie is in slippery mode and survives the onslaught to chalk up a very creditable win
moore UD 15
burns has a painful but short night against the heavy hitting jackson. it only lasts 3 rounds but tommy hardly lands a glove on jackson whilst the aussie rains in telling shots on the smaller mans head and thuds in the odd body shot that would cripple a grizzly. burns is tough but he is not crazy and after his 4th visit to the canvas - he went down once in the 2nd - he decides to stay down for the full count.
jackson KO 3
featherweight tussle
(both men in their pomp)
juan manuel marquez v eusabio pedroza
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 12:10
by Goodnight, Irene
Wow. Great, great back-&-forth skirmish. I'd be pulling for Marquez (among my current favourites, as is his brother), but I fancy Pedroza by a hair-pin decision. Ultra-close. It'd be see-saw stuff. Great to take in from ringside.
Main Event: Floyd Patterson (1960) vs. Michael Moorer (1994). 15 rounds...
Undercard: Wlad Klitschko (Current) vs. Ike Ibeabuchi (1999). 12 rounds...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 16:37
by harrygreb
i take floyd to dominate moorer from the third onwards. patterson keeps mikey keen and has too many moves for moorer to settle. he never really gets into the fight and floyd takes a wide decision
patterson UD 15
this one though is a harder pick. ike will be popping at the glass chin from the off. wlad though uses his brain and keeps out of trouble until a clinch in the 8th.
a great spot of ruffhouse infighting culminating in a left uppercut has the big ruskie on rubber legs. he is bombarded by all kinds of heavy shots and goes down. gets up but is all over the place and a right hand that merely grazes wlads chin sends him into the ropes in a half turn. the ref waves it off.
ibeabuchi TKO 8
more heavyweight mayhem
gerry cooney v david tua
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 17:53
by allworld80
Cooney keeps Tua at arms length for the first half of the fight, and even manages to wobble Tua with his best sunday left hook. Not a small feat considering Tua's legendary beard. David continues to stalk, and eventually tires Cooney out it the 11th. A series of vicious hooks to the body, followed by a precise uppercut send Gerry crashing to the canvas. That's all she wrote. Tua KO11.
Joe Bugner vs Henry Cooper, 15 Rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 18:17
by Robinson
Hard tough match for both guys, but Tua's chin absorbs
the wicked shots from Cooney like an anvil. Tua's power
shots get through and put Cooney away inside of 9.
Tua KO 9.
Jesse Ferguson (1993) Vs Leon Spinks (1978) 15 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 18:22
by AngryGoon38
tzyuforever wrote:Cooney keeps Tua at arms length for the first half of the fight, and even manages to wobble Tua with his best sunday left hook. Not a small feat considering Tua's legendary beard. David continues to stalk, and eventually tires Cooney out it the 11th. A series of vicious hooks to the body, followed by a precise uppercut send Gerry crashing to the canvas. That's all she wrote. Tua KO11.
Joe Bugner vs Henry Cooper, 15 Rounds
Bugner cruises along and has quite a bit of fun along the way.
Reminicent of the Coeztzee-Ladoux bout.
Bugner settles to stay in all out boxer mode though and pitches a near shutout.
149-135,150-135,149-136 UD for Bugner!
Karl Mildenburger vs Sultan Ibragamov-12 Rounds
and
Gene Tunney vs Alexander Povetkin-12 Rounds

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 18:44
by Robinson
Sorry TF you beat me to it.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 18:45
by Goodnight, Irene
Spinks comes out hell-for-leather & wins a narrow decision over an all-done iteration of Ferguson. Wretched fight to watch.
Mildenberger builds a significant points lead early against Ibragimov, but inexplicably slows as the bout wears on, & almost loses control by fight's end. He emerges with a majority decision over the quiet Russian fellow.
Tunney has an easy time with Povetkin, who he has figured from the third onward. Povetkin never finds the range on the always-prepped Fighting Marine. Tunney on a clear decision.
Main Event: Alexis Arguello & Antonio Cervantes in a 15-rounder at JWW...
Undercard: Lamon Brewster meets Oscar Bonavena in twelve rounds of HW action...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 12 Mar 2009, 20:42
by AngryGoon38
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Spinks comes out hell-for-leather & wins a narrow decision over an all-done iteration of Ferguson. Wretched fight to watch.
Mildenberger builds a significant points lead early against Ibragimov, but inexplicably slows as the bout wears on, & almost loses control by fight's end. He emerges with a majority decision over the quiet Russian fellow.
Tunney has an easy time with Povetkin, who he has figured from the third onward. Povetkin never finds the range on the always-prepped Fighting Marine. Tunney on a clear decision.
Main Event: Alexis Arguello & Antonio Cervantes in a 15-rounder at JWW...
Undercard: Lamon Brewster meets Oscar Bonavena in twelve rounds of HW action...
Arguello's primarily the aggressor throughout the bout and scores a flash KD in the 3rd but Cervantes recovers and prevails by relatively close but UD.
Brewster Tko's Bonevena at 2:17 in the 9th after 8 furious sets of back and forth brawl and maul. 8)
Truly takes command in the 9th after staggering Oscar with a classic overhand right as Ringo makes a tactical error and backs into the ropes.The ref steps in to halt the 20+ punch barrage delivered by Lamon.About half are blocked but the landed blows are pretty devastating.
Jake LaMotta(1947) vs Bennie Briscoe(1967)
Tony Zale(1946) vs Iran Barkley(1988)
Rocky Graziano(1946) vs Roberto Duran(1983)

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 14:19
by allworld80
Lamotta and Briscoe is a FOTY candidate. Back and forth savagery on a epic level, and both men have their share of moments. In the end, I'd favor Lamotta to take a razor thin decision over 15 rounds that leaves the crowd stunned by the level of brutality they witnessed.
Barkley uses his considerable physical advantage to harness Zale, despite hitting the canvas in the 8th, and surviving other shaky moments. 10 rounds to 5 for Barkley, and even with the knockdown by Zale, a UD.
Duran takes Rocky apart, and it's stopped in 6. Graziano appears very sluggish, and Roberto punishes the body, essentially making Rocky quit. Duran TKO6.
Micky Ward (2002) vs Livingstone Bramble (1984) @ 140
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 15:59
by The Great John L
This is a very tough fight for Bramble, who's moving up from 135, but Ward has lost a step from his earlier days.
Ward falls behind in the early rounds, but continues to apply constant pressure, hurting Bramble with a left to the body at the end of the 6th. However, Bramble recovers between rounds and continues his effective counter-punching. A wild last round rally by Ward makes it interesting, but Bramble is just a little too slick for Mickey this night and takes a comfortable UD.
Prelim
Sam Peter v Ron Lyle
Main Event
Rematch of James Toney vs Dave Tiberi, again at 160
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 19:05
by Goodnight, Irene
Lyle TKO9 Peter.
A scrappy affair between two big men with limited skill & defense. Lyle close to being down in the second round, Peter floored heavily in the seventh. He has the fight beaten out of him in the ninth stanza, with the referee stepping in. No protests from Peter, who is clear-headed, but was taking some big shots. The heat was getting too much in that kitchen.
Toney decisions Tiberi, 7-4-1, over the twelve rounds. There should've been a return in reality, John L.
Main Event: Danny "Little Red" Lopez (1980) &, Juan Manuel "Dynamita" Marquez (2004) clash for the Featherweight crown. 12 rounds...
Undercard: "Terrible" Terry Norris (1992) &, "Ferocious" Fernando Vargas (1999) lock horns for the 154lb. championship. 12 rounds...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 13 Mar 2009, 21:07
by AngryGoon38
Goodnight, Irene wrote:Lyle TKO9 Peter.
A scrappy affair between two big men with limited skill & defense. Lyle close to being down in the second round, Peter floored heavily in the seventh. He has the fight beaten out of him in the ninth stanza, with the referee stepping in. No protests from Peter, who is clear-headed, but was taking some big shots. The heat was getting too much in that kitchen.
Toney decisions Tiberi, 7-4-1, over the twelve rounds. There should've been a return in reality, John L.
Main Event: Danny "Little Red" Lopez (1980) &, Juan Manuel "Dynamita" Marquez (2004) clash for the Featherweight crown. 12 rounds...
Undercard: "Terrible" Terry Norris (1992) &, "Ferocious" Fernando Vargas (1999) lock horns for the 154lb. championship. 12 rounds...
JMM wins by SD. Each visits the deck twice.
Norris wins by TKO11.
Next Up:
JR WW Tripleheader Spectacular! 8)
Manny Paquiou vs Aaron Pryor
Ricky Hatton vs Vinnie Pazienza
Wilfredo Benitez vs Hector Camacho
All 12 Rd'ers.

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 03:50
by allworld80
I can see Pacquiao/Pryor going either way, but my first thought is the Manny is simply too fast, and he somehow finds a way to navigate the deep waters that Pryor thrives in to eek out a SD. Both men badly busted up and exhausted at the end though.
Hatton has an easier time in his fight, and scores an accumulation stoppage of Paz late. 11th round TKO.
Benitez would have all the physical advantages over Camacho, but speed kills, and Hector has it to burn. So much class between these two, it's just a tough, solid, prizefight in which Camacho gains a close, but clear UD.
Zab Judah vs Meldrick Taylor @ 140
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 14 Mar 2009, 12:20
by Goodnight, Irene
Composure has always been Judah's fatal flaw &, when faced with an opponent whose handspeed is his equal, but whose class & versatility exceed his own, he's crumbling late down the stretch, IMO.
It'd actually be a terrific battle through the first six rounds, not unlike De La Hoya-Mosley I...but, like that bout, one man would be coming on just too strong offensively for the other. A close, but clear, UD for Taylor.
George Foreman (1991) vs. Jack Johnson (1908). 15 rounds...
Fresh on the heels of his late-1994 championship triumph, George Foreman returns the favour for Evander Holyfield, granting him a title shot with their roles reversed from the first fight. This is April, 1995, & Holyfield is exhibiting signs of illness, ala Bowe III, '95. Does he have enough to take Foreman a second time?
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 03:22
by allworld80
Foreman bests Johnson on almost any day, and this is one of those days. Johnson's power shots clang off of Big George's chin, to no avail. Foreman does what he does, following Johnson around the ring winging wicked shots through his guard. The 8th round finds JJ on his tukus just 15 seconds in. He barely beats the count, and takes a beating against the ropes until the ref jumps in. Foreman TKO8.
If Holyfield's heart problems are the cause of his illness, I don't know if he can find the same magic as he did in the first fight with Foreman. Having to take every other round off, he slips behind on the scorecards. Between the 7th and 8th rounds, Tommy Brooks threatens to stop it. After pleading for one more round, Holyfield comes out swinging, and in between his punches crashing down on Foreman, you almost sense he's going to pull it out. With 20 seconds remaining in the round, Holyfield pulls straight back, and Foreman lands a perfect right hand to the chin. That's all folks.
Been done before I'm sure....
Marvin Hagler vs Carlos Monzon
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 15 Mar 2009, 08:11
by Goodnight, Irene
It's Hagler early & Monzon late. Who takes it? Monzon is the crisper puncher & the more precise hitter. His cleaner shots impress the judges for a close UD. I believe Monzon would beat Hagler a good seven or eight times out of ten --- all close. He was, for mine, just the better Middleweight.
The Welter Wars --- Ike Quartey & Marlon Starling, along with Lloyd Honeyghan against Vernon Forrest. 12 rounds a-piece...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 15:55
by HomicideHenry
Starling decisions Quartey, Forest decisions Honeyghan.
Rufus Brassell vs Buster Mathis, Jr. 10 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 16:02
by The Great John L
Mathis Jr fights his usual hustling aggressive style and takes an easy UD.
Let's stick with Mathis Jr.
Buster Mathis Jr. vs Orlin Norris
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 02:42
by Goodnight, Irene
Norris swings a mild upset with a MD victory over twelve rounds. This one reaches no great heights.
Main Event: Welterweight Benny Leonard vs. 2002 Oscar De La Hoya. 12 rounds at Jr. Middleweight...this was neither man's best weight, but is this physically a bridge too far for Leonard?
Undercard: Winky Wright & Viper Forrest, in a twelve-rounder at Jr. Middle, circa-2005...