Re: Classic American West Coast Boxing
Posted: 13 Dec 2008, 14:06
FELICIDADESkikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....
FELICIDADESkikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....
Happy 54th Frank. Congratulations. When Monica and I celebrate our 54th I'll be about 110 years old. :(kikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....
You'll make it, Rick, thanks.Rick Farris wrote:Happy 54th Frank. Congratulations. When Monica and I celebrate our 54th I'll be about 110 years old. :(kikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....
-Rick
Thanks Hap....Dongee wrote:Bless you both, Kiki. Mil Felicidades y muchos dias de estos.
hap navarro
Lovin the Archie Moore book by the way Rog.dagosd2000 wrote:Question for Hap
Archie Moore told me the best fighter he ever faced was Charley Burley. They fought only one time. That was at the Hollywood Legion . Any recall on this fight? Rog.
Thanks Pug.....Expug wrote:Congrats Frank!
All the best to you and Connie my friend.

kikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....


Thanks Randy, yeah! you made me feel old....Randyman wrote:kikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....
All the best to you and Connie Frank!! Enjoy the day. You guys did a good job with your family. By the way, not to make you feel old but I was 7 months old when you and Connie got married.
Randy
Sorry about that Frank but this is the one place I can come to where I'm still a kid (just kidding)! I hope you feel better Frank. Take a shot of Jack Daniels and the chase it with some tequila.It's good for what ails ye!kikibalt wrote:Thanks Randy, yeah! you made me feel old....Randyman wrote:kikibalt wrote:Connie and I are celebrating our 54th wedding annivesary today :) and also my birthday :( , so Happy Birthday to me....
All the best to you and Connie Frank!! Enjoy the day. You guys did a good job with your family. By the way, not to make you feel old but I was 7 months old when you and Connie got married.
Randy, ruin my day, hell my day was already ruin, down with the flu, which I had for two weeks already, when I get the bug it'll stay with me for well over a month, I think I'm going to take a shot of something STRONG!....
Not to me Randy, he had to have been way before my time, maybe Hap will have some info.Randyman wrote:Frank and Hap, I might have already asked this question I'm not sure. There was a guy that lived across from my parents house in Pico Rivera, his name was Ortiz, he was much older than my father. Everyone called him Ortiz, I never knew his first name or maybe I just forgot it. He was an exfighter, a middleweight. He claims to have fought Ace Hudkins. I believe he said he lost a decision. I have looked through Hudkins record but there is no Ortiz listed. maybe he fought under another name. At the time, the mid to late 1960's he seemed to be in his 60's but he was in great shape. He hit the speed bag and the heavy bag every day. He passed away years ago. Does any of this sound familiar?
Randy
Frank, same here. I love those tripas tacos. man they are so good. For Brian and Dan, tripas is tripe but not the same part that's in Menudo. This tripe is like a long cord. It can be fried or grilled or steamed. Served with some salsa on a tortilla. Someday I'm gonna get you guys to try it!!kikibalt wrote:Diego...Any of those taco stands have "tripas tacos"? I love tripas.....dagosd2000 wrote:AFTER THE FIGHTS
Across the boulevard from the Bull ring is the long row of taco stands that is a popular spot for people to stop and eat. Tijuana is known for tacos. When it's the Day Of The Taco in Mexico there are so many people crowding around those stands it's almost impossible to see them. The aroma of the manteca and the crackling of meat frying on the grills is something the memory never forgets. The bright bulbs strung across the front of the stands. Radishes,chiles,cilantro,and salsas of red and green in bowls adorn the stands. After the fights at the bull ring ,we always went to eat at the stands . Tacos Al Pastor with the meat on the spit shaved off into the small hot corn tortillas dipped in the hot manteca tasted wonderfull.
"Si amigo. Con todo."
Me and Pat were hungry after the card at the Bull Ring. We got lucky .We found a stand with two empty stools on the end. We piled the tacos on the white cardboard plates. The grease soaked through the wax paper onto the cardboard.The night air got cold and I was looking at the steam coming off from all the grills.
"Olivares had an easy time with that Jap," I remarked as my plate was being filled with tacos.
"They're not going to risk anything with him down here,"said Pat.
"They'll have a big fight with him later in the year in Los Angeles."
It seemed that everyone at the Bull Ring crossed the boulevard to eat tacos at the stands. As fast as the tacos were filled on the plates, they were emptied by the happy aficianados.
I was starting to fill my stomach. The cold beer in the brown bottles helped wash it down.
"Someone told me there are 7000 registered fighters in Mexico,"I said.
"How many in the U.S.?"
"Not even half that number."
Pat was starting to slow down too. We just drank beer.
"I don't think Mexico would have near that number of fighters if they didn't border the U.S.,"I said.
"Yeh,it would probably have as many fighters as Panama."
"The fighters know in Mexico if they do well,it's the big money in the U.S."
"Yeh,the Forum or maybe New York."
The beer was beginning to warm me up . I didn't feel the cold anymore.
"You're right. They didn't want to risk anything with Olivares tonight."
"Picking the Japanese guy was a coup. The crowd liked to see him get his ass kicked."
"Especially what Shibata did to Saldivar."
The crowd dwindled down. Some of the stands had no one in front of them. Me and Pat sat at the end of the stand. There were a lot of the empty brown bottles in front of us.
"Another way the U.S. impacts Mexico,"I said. My mind became very clear. I was sure of my statements.
"I don't follow."
"They fight well here,and then make the big money on the U.S. side."
"Yeh."
I looked along the long row of stands. Just me and Pat were left. The man making the tacos came over.
"Se cabo. We close."
I paid the man for the tacos and beer. I put my arm on Pat's shoulder. He looked up..
"Of those 7000,how many make the big money?"asked Pat.
"Hardly any. Only a few."
The man turned off the lights to the stand.
"Hey Pat,I know a place at the bottom of Revolution where the geek bites off the chicken's head."
"Now that's something I've got to see."
Thanks Frank, I'm assuming he was telling the truth, at least about being a fighter, because he had a fighters face. It showed the battle scars.kikibalt wrote:Not to me Randy, he had to have been way before my time, maybe Hap will have some info.Randyman wrote:Frank and Hap, I might have already asked this question I'm not sure. There was a guy that lived across from my parents house in Pico Rivera, his name was Ortiz, he was much older than my father. Everyone called him Ortiz, I never knew his first name or maybe I just forgot it. He was an exfighter, a middleweight. He claims to have fought Ace Hudkins. I believe he said he lost a decision. I have looked through Hudkins record but there is no Ortiz listed. maybe he fought under another name. At the time, the mid to late 1960's he seemed to be in his 60's but he was in great shape. He hit the speed bag and the heavy bag every day. He passed away years ago. Does any of this sound familiar?
Randy
No Frank, this is the first I've heard about it. How far back are we talking about? I remember when the 605 freeway was being built. Sometime in the early to mid 60's, so it had to be a while back.kikibalt wrote:Randy...did you know that boxing used to held in Pico at one time? it was at the Pico Palace, the Pico Palace used to be on Whittier Bl. just west of where the 605 freeway is now.
I remember my dad in the summer time used to grilled tripas under some trees that he had in his back yard, my mom would make some hot salsa, rice and beans, my brother, brother-in-law's and I, and of course the ladies too, would sit under the trees and eat tripas tacos and drink some cold ones.Randyman wrote:Frank, same here. I love those tripas tacos. man they are so good. For Brian and Dan, tripas is tripe but not the same part that's in Menudo. This tripe is like a long cord. It can be fried or grilled or steamed. Served with some salsa on a tortilla. Someday I'm gonna get you guys to try it!!kikibalt wrote:Diego...Any of those taco stands have "tripas tacos"? I love tripas.....dagosd2000 wrote:AFTER THE FIGHTS
Across the boulevard from the Bull ring is the long row of taco stands that is a popular spot for people to stop and eat. Tijuana is known for tacos. When it's the Day Of The Taco in Mexico there are so many people crowding around those stands it's almost impossible to see them. The aroma of the manteca and the crackling of meat frying on the grills is something the memory never forgets. The bright bulbs strung across the front of the stands. Radishes,chiles,cilantro,and salsas of red and green in bowls adorn the stands. After the fights at the bull ring ,we always went to eat at the stands . Tacos Al Pastor with the meat on the spit shaved off into the small hot corn tortillas dipped in the hot manteca tasted wonderfull.
"Si amigo. Con todo."
Me and Pat were hungry after the card at the Bull Ring. We got lucky .We found a stand with two empty stools on the end. We piled the tacos on the white cardboard plates. The grease soaked through the wax paper onto the cardboard.The night air got cold and I was looking at the steam coming off from all the grills.
"Olivares had an easy time with that Jap," I remarked as my plate was being filled with tacos.
"They're not going to risk anything with him down here,"said Pat.
"They'll have a big fight with him later in the year in Los Angeles."
It seemed that everyone at the Bull Ring crossed the boulevard to eat tacos at the stands. As fast as the tacos were filled on the plates, they were emptied by the happy aficianados.
I was starting to fill my stomach. The cold beer in the brown bottles helped wash it down.
"Someone told me there are 7000 registered fighters in Mexico,"I said.
"How many in the U.S.?"
"Not even half that number."
Pat was starting to slow down too. We just drank beer.
"I don't think Mexico would have near that number of fighters if they didn't border the U.S.,"I said.
"Yeh,it would probably have as many fighters as Panama."
"The fighters know in Mexico if they do well,it's the big money in the U.S."
"Yeh,the Forum or maybe New York."
The beer was beginning to warm me up . I didn't feel the cold anymore.
"You're right. They didn't want to risk anything with Olivares tonight."
"Picking the Japanese guy was a coup. The crowd liked to see him get his ass kicked."
"Especially what Shibata did to Saldivar."
The crowd dwindled down. Some of the stands had no one in front of them. Me and Pat sat at the end of the stand. There were a lot of the empty brown bottles in front of us.
"Another way the U.S. impacts Mexico,"I said. My mind became very clear. I was sure of my statements.
"I don't follow."
"They fight well here,and then make the big money on the U.S. side."
"Yeh."
I looked along the long row of stands. Just me and Pat were left. The man making the tacos came over.
"Se cabo. We close."
I paid the man for the tacos and beer. I put my arm on Pat's shoulder. He looked up..
"Of those 7000,how many make the big money?"asked Pat.
"Hardly any. Only a few."
The man turned off the lights to the stand.
"Hey Pat,I know a place at the bottom of Revolution where the geek bites off the chicken's head."
"Now that's something I've got to see."![]()
Randy
Frank, that's good simple living and eating. I can fully appreciate that. The best things in life are cheap and simple.Frank wrote:
I remember my dad in the summer time used to grilled tripas under some trees that he had in his back yard, my mom would make some hot salsa, rice and beans, my brother, brother-in-law's and I, and of course the ladies too, would sit under the trees and eat tripas tacos and drink some cold ones.
It was in the late 1940-early 50's, that I remmber. I fought (amateur, of course that all I fought) there around 1948-49.Randyman wrote:No Frank, this is the first I've heard about it. How far back are we talking about? I remember when the 605 freeway was being built. Sometime in the early to mid 60's, so it had to be a while back.kikibalt wrote:Randy...did you know that boxing used to held in Pico at one time? it was at the Pico Palace, the Pico Palace used to be on Whittier Bl. just west of where the 605 freeway is now.
Randy