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JLP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm not trying to be a knob, but shouldn't you bet on who you think is actually gonna win the fight?

Yes and no. If you do decide to gamble, I think you should only do so when the odds are at least fair and ideally favourable. Hardly anybody does that and it's one of the primary reasons why almost all gamblers are well down.

I hate losing mate, so I only bet on someone I am certain is gonna win. I won big on Banks to beat Mitchell and on Flintoff vs The Oklahoma Dumpling and won both. I was gonna bet on Fury points tonight, but I think he might stop Johnson. Either way Fury wins. Johnson has no chance tonight mate.

TheCobra wrote:

JLP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm not trying to be a knob, but shouldn't you bet on who you think is actually gonna win the fight?

Yes and no. If you do decide to gamble, I think you should only do so when the odds are at least fair and ideally favourable. Hardly anybody does that and it's one of the primary reasons why almost all gamblers are well down.

I choose the value method of gambling, haven't done too badly with it. Senchenko KO win and Flintoff win last night were good recent results of 'value' bets.

If you can ignore the hype around 'our' boxers and look purely at records, then you can see that odds like 5/1 for Johnson are pretty big, he might not win, but I think he's much better than a 5/1 shot.

Flintoff was a complete certainty for me last night.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

JLP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm not trying to be a knob, but shouldn't you bet on who you think is actually gonna win the fight?

Yes and no. If you do decide to gamble, I think you should only do so when the odds are at least fair and ideally favourable. Hardly anybody does that and it's one of the primary reasons why almost all gamblers are well down.

I hate losing mate, so I only bet on someone I am certain is gonna win. I won big on Banks to beat Mitchell and on Flintoff vs The Oklahoma Dumpling and won both. I was gonna bet on Fury points tonight, but I think he might stop Johnson. Either way Fury wins. Johnson has no chance tonight mate.

You are on a roll keith; if I start backing your tips can I call you a big fat pig who doesn't know anything about boxing if I lose?

TheCobra wrote:

JLP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:I'm not trying to be a knob, but shouldn't you bet on who you think is actually gonna win the fight?

Yes and no. If you do decide to gamble, I think you should only do so when the odds are at least fair and ideally favourable. Hardly anybody does that and it's one of the primary reasons why almost all gamblers are well down.

I choose the value method of gambling, haven't done too badly with it. Senchenko KO win and Flintoff win last night were good recent results of 'value' bets.

If you can ignore the hype around 'our' boxers and look purely at records, then you can see that odds like 5/1 for Johnson are pretty big, he might not win, but I think he's much better than a 5/1 shot.

They are canny odds mate, no question, but styles make fights and Johnson doesn't throw enough punches to win on points and doesn't hit hard enough to stop Fury. Only one winner mate. I'm not biased towards Fury because I'm his #1 fan or coz he's British. When it comes to betting, it could be Hitler vs Gandhi, wouldn't bother me in the slightest.

Oh, and by the way, Gandhi on points after a flash knockdown in the 2nd.

keithmoonhangover wrote:Oh, and by the way, Gandhi on points after a flash knockdown in the 2nd.

No chance. Hitler would smoke the pacifist's boots.

palooka wrote:You are on a roll keith; if I start backing your tips can I call you a big fat pig who doesn't know anything about boxing if I lose?

100% mate. I text 20 non boxing fan friends with my Flintoff tip last night. A mate of mine put a grand on at 6/5. Nice.

Just put a few quid on at 6.4 on Betfair. Bit of fun really, I'd rather Fury win of course, but Johnson not got a bad record so I think he;s worthy of 5.4/1

JLP wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Oh, and by the way, Gandhi on points after a flash knockdown in the 2nd.

No chance. Hitler would smoke the pacifist's boots.

Hitler was Tyson to Gandhi's Holyfield.

TheCobra wrote:Just put a few quid on at 6.4 on Betfair. Bit of fun really, I'd rather Fury win of course, but Johnson not got a bad record so I think he;s worthy of 5.4/1

I'd say good luck, but I want Fury to win mate.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

palooka wrote:You are on a roll keith; if I start backing your tips can I call you a big fat pig who doesn't know anything about boxing if I lose?

100% mate. I text 20 non boxing fan friends with my Flintoff tip last night. A mate of mine put a grand on at 6/5. Nice.

Thank you think I'll get on it next weekend,

Playing two doubles today:

Norwich/ Sunderland and Hibs/Hearts to draw @ 9.5/1 (small)

Gaelic football: Crokes to beat Castlehaven and Crossmaglen to beat Kilcoo @ 1/2 (large)

Bermaine stiverne 9/2 to beat arreola looks overpriced to me.

Ok stiverne is no joe frazier but he can bang and then some and arreolas defence is basically his face.

Dortmund 5/4 to beat Man City - Merry christmas everyone.


I'm sure city don't want to end up in the Europa League or risk any players with United at the weekend

chiggsy wrote:Bermaine stiverne 9/2 to beat arreola looks overpriced to me.

Ok stiverne is no joe frazier but he can bang and then some and arreolas defence is basically his face.

Arreola will knock him out mate.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

chiggsy wrote:Bermaine stiverne 9/2 to beat arreola looks overpriced to me.

Ok stiverne is no joe frazier but he can bang and then some and arreolas defence is basically his face.

Arreola will knock him out mate.

I agree, Keith. Arreola's defence isn't all bad and he has a sturdy chin on him. It will be a slugfest for a few rounds but Stiverne will be going down, IMO. Arreola is the level above.

bet flintoff to win on points @2/1. gutted i didnt put more on really!

Backing kessler rounds 7-12 @ 15/8. Not sure about other fights this week yet.

Magee is decent but always falls short when he steps up. Would like to see him get a result though.

anyone fancy Marquez to beat pacman at 5/2, I thought he won the last fight pretty clear. PAC seems to have lost that killer instinct in recent fights and I dont think he will be as motivated to fight marquez again whereas Marquez clearly feels hard done by based on the previous decisions in their fights.

I really think Marquez wins this and the price is pretty decent considering how well he does against Pacs style, and will back accordingly.

MR T wrote:anyone fancy Marquez to beat pacman at 5/2, I thought he won the last fight pretty clear. PAC seems to have lost that killer instinct in recent fights and I dont think he will be as motivated to fight marquez again whereas Marquez clearly feels hard done by based on the previous decisions in their fights.

I really think Marquez wins this and the price is pretty decent considering how well he does against Pacs style, and will back accordingly.

I prob wont touch this fight, if I was to have a bet on it, it would be Marquez by dec. Think its 9/2 may be wrong (cant check cos at work)

Adamek to beat Cunningham at 2/7 looks like easy money. Cunningham looks shot to me.

Groves to beat Glenn Johnson... Anyone got odds for that?

Thoughts on Barker-Hope anyone? Barker to win for sure imo but not sure by mid or late stoppage or points.

MR T wrote:anyone fancy Marquez to beat pacman at 5/2, I thought he won the last fight pretty clear. PAC seems to have lost that killer instinct in recent fights and I dont think he will be as motivated to fight marquez again whereas Marquez clearly feels hard done by based on the previous decisions in their fights.

I really think Marquez wins this and the price is pretty decent considering how well he does against Pacs style, and will back accordingly.

http://boxrec.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=159913

Cholo_cws wrote:Thoughts on Barker-Hope anyone? Barker to win for sure imo but not sure by mid or late stoppage or points.

Taken Barker to win in rounds 7-12 @14/5

I dont mind admitting the weekend started bad as my Magee/Hope double crashed and burnt :P

But my MMM stoppage at 9/1 more than made up for it.

The Insider wrote:I dont mind admitting the weekend started bad as my Magee/Hope double crashed and burnt :P

But my MMM stoppage at 9/1 more than made up for it.

Very good work insider.

My next flutter will be a double on Adamek and Groves.