Page 49 of 92
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 18:17
by harrygreb
def a bridge too far for benny. oscar looks a better light middler than leonard and although he concedes the first two rounds to benny, oscar dominates the fight from then on until an exhausted leonard is saved by the ref in the 9th.
de la hoya TKO 9
winky jabs smartly and moves frustratingly enough to earn himself a wide UD over forrest.
wright UD 12
lets test winky once more.
ronald "winky" wright v roberto duran ...still at light middle
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 20:29
by Goodnight, Irene
Over twelve rounds, Wright pulls off the boil-over, winning narrowly on points. Wright was no Benitez, but he was on that order stylistically, & he's certainly a great fighter in his own right --- perhaps the most under-appreciated of his generation (In the time of superstars such as De La Hoya, Trinidad, Mosley, Jones, etc.). Over fifteen, Duran breaks him down for a late stoppage.
Floyd Mayweather, at different stages of his glittering career, takes on peak versions of the following men, at the designated weights, over fifteen rounds...
2007 Floyd Mayweather vs. 2000 Fernando Vargas, Jr. Middleweight
2005 Floyd Mayweather vs. 1982 Aaron Pryor, Jr. Welterweight
2001 Floyd Mayweather vs. 1978 Alexis Arguello, Jr. Lightweight
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 18:54
by harrygreb
i reckon floyd breaks vargas up and gets the ref stops it in the 10th. PBF having a bit too much of everything for his opponent.
PBF TKO 10
the pryor bout is a classic. floyds flashy moves and lightning combos earning a solid lead by the seventh. all this time though pryor has worked away and has had success in landing hard shots in every round even though he loses them. this constant creeping assault begins to pay off in the 8th and 9th when floyd foolishly trades with pryor. there is no KD but this tactic has the effect of gassing floyd with 3 to go. pryor senses he has a chance to even things up and wings in assault after assault, mostly two handed and a chilling left to the ribs brings the pretty boy down. floyd gets up and spoils to get himself to the bell. his recovery is good and in the face of more out and out bombardment from pryor mayweather spoils and jabs his way to the line.
PBF UD 12
yet again i have to make alexis arguello a gallant loser. floyd has too much speed and is strong enough at the weight to keep AA off balance and out of range. he whips in blurring combos and takes a decent points win.
PBF UD 12
back to winky..
here he fights a peak chris eubank at middleweight.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 18 Mar 2009, 21:23
by Goodnight, Irene
Tight fight (aren't they all, with Winky?) but be comes off second-best on this occasion. It's close enough for him to dispute the call, though. Eubank seemed to lose it a bit in the last two, & Wright felt that was enough for him to get the job done. The judges disagree, calling MD for Eubank.
Main Event: Jim Jeffries vs. Larry Holmes. 8oz. gloves, 25-rounds...
Undercard: Carmen Basilio & Tommy Hearns in a 15-round Welterweight contest...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 04:16
by Robinson
Holmes stops Jeffries after 8 rounds. His work rate and accuracy is
to much for Jeffries.
Holmes KO 8.
Hearns is able to win a even but hard fought decision.
James J Jeffries (1910) Vs Joe Louis (1951) 15 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 19 Mar 2009, 07:44
by Goodnight, Irene
Robinson wrote:Holmes stops Jeffries after 8 rounds. His work rate and accuracy is
to much for Jeffries.
Holmes KO 8.
Hearns is able to win a even but hard fought decision.
James J Jeffries (1910) Vs Joe Louis (1951) 15 rounds.
I thought to myself when I posted this, "Lord help big Jeff if Robinson is first on the scene for that matching..."
Louis wins a decision against Jeffries in an awful affair. Two shot superstars of yesteryear, but one could at least see his last fight in his rear-view mirror. Too much ring-rust does Jeffries in again. The last few rounds are a clinch-entwined snore. UD Louis.
Main Event: Gene Tunney against Rocky Marciano over fifteen at Heavyweight --- Brains against brawn!
Undercard: Joe Gans & Pernell Whitaker over twelve rounds at 135...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 09:09
by harrygreb
ok...the bell goes for round one, rocky advances towards tunney, gene moves to his left and pops out a jab and another, rocky moves closer and wings in a straightish left and a wide right, tunney blocks both and moves away and into the centre of the ring, pings out jab after jab and reddens the face of marciano. this cat and mouse stuff continues with no real difficulty for either man until the bell.
round 2 gene stays away from rocky's bombs and manages to knock him off balance a little when he gets too close. rocky doesnt lay more than a couple of meaningful shots on the marine the whole round. but he's still quietly confident as he mooches back to Charlie Goldman in his corner.
round 3 tunney sticks marciano with jabs and feints his way past rocky's advances. marciano though shows he can cut off the ring and with a minute to go has gene in a corner and begins winding up heavy lefts and a right uppercut jolts tunneys head towards heaven, a left hook crashes onto the jaw of tunney who falls sideways but corrects his balance in time, rocky blasts in a right hand but its low! too low! gene goes down but the ref doesnt count as the punch clearly landed in the pit of tunneys trunks. he gives tunney time to recover and warns marciano to keep 'em up. gene though ruffled cleverly avoids the now raging pumped-up rocky for the rest of the round. the bell. he recovers.
round 4 and marciano comes forward again as tunney ducks and weaves and paws and jabs to keep him away. then halfway through the round marciano has tunney in range and a roundhouse right begins to make its ominous way towards tunneys chin. THE NEXT 5 SECONDS ARE SHOWN IN SLOW MOTION...marcianos right continues on its silent fateful journey, tunneys eyes are trained on the top of rockys head. he is oblivious to the comet travelling towards him at over 45mph...at the last moment tunney leans back no more than 3 inches and rocky's murderous dark glove whistles past gene's chin. the weight of his own punch turns rocky sideways to tunney. rocky's exposed jaw now takes on the appearance of the 9th at augusta, a shortish hole with a wide fairway, and tunney, who has instinctively drawn back his right foot and planted it firmly on the canvas, selects his club from his golf bag - a number 3 wood - and drives it straight and true and with as much power as he possesses towards the flag. his ramrod right arm forces his glove through like a locomotive and it explodes on marcianos jaw. the rock slowly, heavily, crumbles. referee mickey walker, who thought he'd seen everything, counts 3...4... over marciano but the brockton blockbuster is in the land of nod. he may be at augusta or swimming in the cool waters of the adriatic sea or strolling along the great wall of china...BACK TO NORMAL SPEED...walker lifts tunneys left arm in victory as his caddy replaces his club. the crowd are not sure what they have seen. the record books show...
tunney KO 4 marciano
Pernell Whitaker UD 12 Joe Gans
its pin-up punch-up time featuring heavyweights...
max baer v david haye
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 13:01
by hitman09
Baer KO2 in a short but brutal battle. Haye's speed and power initially gives Baer trouble when Baer comes out swinging, Haye catching him with clean shots and staggering him in the opening minute, but Baer gets his wits about him and survives the round despite taking a battering. Haye comes out in the second overconfident, leaves himself open to a massive right hand from Baer, knocking him down. He beats the count, but Baer presses on, and another right which Haye doesn't react in time to ends the contest.
Main Event
Carlos Monzon vs Harry Greb 15 rds middleweight
Undercard
Willie Pep vs Marco Antonio Barrera 12 rds featherweight
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 16:41
by harrygreb
willie the wisp starts slowly against barrera almost like he needs a couple of shots to woosh past his nose to wake him up. this happens. barrera wins the first round by a street. its the last he wins. a galvanised pep is awesome in the second. a definitive display of everything he knows; mastery of distance, speed of foot and dazzling combos. superlative body movement. its as if he knows what Marco is going to do before marco does. the 3rd is a repeat of 2 only more so; he starts to dominate the inside stuff too. in goes the frustrated barrera's head. no point deducted! the fourth round goes to pep too. marco's face is puffing up through constant contact with peps gloves. pop, pop, pop then an couple to the chest. pop into the face, a right to the ribs like lightning and away...barerra hasnt landed on pep for half a round. the bell. MAB's corner withdraw their man claiming marco's hand is broken. how?
willie pep TKO 4
Harry greb in peak jaw-dropping form first hustles then hammers monzon to defeat in 7 rounds of action. monzon is unsettled by grebs aggression from the off and apart from a shared 5th has no answer to the shear variety of the pittsburgh prince's indefatigable assaults. the referee - and he is probably the only man in the arena who can say this - has seen enough!
greb TKO 7
JACK DEMPSEY V JOE FRAZIER
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 16:58
by Goodnight, Irene
Left hooks at twenty paces. Frazier is too slow out of the blocks against Dempsey, whose whirlwind assault & crippling power facilitate two opening-round knockdowns & a third in the second stanza. Frazier is fighting back hard, but he's having trouble dealing with Dempsey's handspeed & punching power. He's wobbled into the ropes, & Joe Cortez says that's enough. Frazier protests, claiming he was throwing back the whole time.
Main Event: Carmen Basilio & Marvin Hagler over fifteen rounds...
Undercards:
Wilfred Benitez vs. Felix Trinidad...
Prime Ace Frietas against 2007 Juan Diaz...
Ace Freitas (22-0-0) vs. Roberto Garcia (32-0-0), circa-1999...
The three undercard events are scheduled for twelve rounds!
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 23 Mar 2009, 15:24
by alexpaterson
How about Napoles against Mayweather JR 1 at LW and 1 at WW, Monzon-Hagler, Hatton-Stracey
Minter-Abrahams aswell

Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 07:28
by harrygreb
heres how it works, alexpaterson
hhmm..i see these fights something like this....
garcia SD 12 freitas
freitas TKO 11 diaz
benitez UD 12 tito
basilio makes a heroic effort to halt hagler but although he is ahead on most cards as they come out for the 15th. hagler finds another level and a deft combo sends the exhausted carmen falling to the canvas like a wet hat. he tries to get up but staggers as he stands upright and the fight is stopped.
hagler TKO 15 basilio
then simply dream up a hypo match up...something like;
15 rounds "small" heavyweight clash
george chuvalo v david tua
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 09:35
by Ketchel
george chuvalo v david tua
Chuvalo UD 15
Tua just not busy enough
Featherweight
Naseem Hamed V "Peerless" Jim Driscoll
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 12:38
by observer1
Prince Naseem by UD imo
Geoge Cooney v Qawi, LH
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 13:33
by HomicideHenry
Qawi wins
Rocky Marciano vs Sonny Liston, 15 rounds
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 16:41
by harrygreb
marcianos first fight since the KO defeat by gene tunney and he looks in great shape. liston comes out and wins the opening couple of rounds with his ability to move marciano around using his weight advantage. rocky has a problem getting to liston and by the 6th round is behind on points and is distinctly marked up around the eyes. liston presses his way forwards and drops the rock for a 4 count in the 8th, trying to finish him sonny wades in and meetsa short sharp suzy Q from an easterly direction for his trouble. sonny - surprised and dazed - makes it up but the rock is all over him. sonny drops again. gets up again but a barrage of bombs from the brockton boy and sonny sinks to the sawdust. this time for the full count. marciano is back!!
marciano KO 8 liston
world heavyweight title eliminator;
bob fitzsimmons v floyd patterson
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 16:57
by Robinson
Patterson KO 3.
Harold Johnson(1960) Vs Dwight Qawi (1985) 15 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 20:23
by observer1
Robinson wrote:Patterson KO 3.
Harold Johnson(1960) Vs Dwight Qawi (1985) 15 rounds.
Qawi by late stoppage imo.
___
Kelly Pavlik v Terry Norris, MW
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 24 Mar 2009, 21:16
by Goodnight, Irene
See-saw affair with multiple knockdowns. Norris stops him in the sixth.
Main Event: Archie Moore vs. Jerry Quarry. 15 rounds at Heavyweight.
Undercard: Zab Judah vs. Ricardo Mayorga, circa-2003, over 12 rounds at Welterweight...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 06:26
by Robinson
Ill do one of these ones.
Moore and Quarry makes for a good match up. Quarry using younger legs and
a slight size advantage manages to build an early lead. After 5 rounds Moore
slides into a nice counter game. He is able to drop Quarry in the 7th. Quarry
rallies but is slowly dropping behind on the cards.
Moore's inside work is that much sharper and accurate that Quarry resorts
to singular power shots.
Moore is able to zap Quarry with a nice combination of short range uppercuts
and left hook. Quarry stays down, bloodied.
Moore KO 12.
I shall leave you Zab-Mayorga one open. I have not really seen enough of
either to do this one.
Ill add another one for this one for you mate.
Jerry Quarry (1967) Vs Carlos De Leon (1987) 12 rounds.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 08:55
by harrygreb
before i post, i have to question jerry quarry's use of "younger legs". i have heard of boxers selecting gloves, utilising their pet gum shield or shorts but surely if jerry can have the use of younger legs, the option should be open for archie to use younger legs too! (how the hell do they stay on for 15 rounds)
now, i see zab showing ricardo a few angles and a bit of speed and cruising to a wide decision. no hic ups - mayorga cant floor him even when he catches up with him.
judah UD 12
i take quarry - with his original legs - to win by KO against de leon. a young quarry is a good quarry, catching carlos with a left hook to end the contest in the 8th round
quarry KO 8
marciano, still on the comeback trail after his win against sonny liston, is calling out gene tunney who KO'd the rock 2 fights ago. don king promises marciano a return with the marine if he can get by...sam langford
rocky marciano v sam langford - heavyweight eliminator 15 rounds
i dont normally post an undercard fight but try this one...
the return fight - the canadian won the first by UD 15 - between david tua and george chuvalo - a minutes rest between the rounds as normal but no specified number of rounds. it goes on until a ref's stoppage or a KO or until one of 'em quits!
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 17:02
by alexpaterson
harrygreb wrote:heres how it works, alexpaterson
hhmm..i see these fights something like this....
garcia SD 12 freitas
freitas TKO 11 diaz
benitez UD 12 tito
basilio makes a heroic effort to halt hagler but although he is ahead on most cards as they come out for the 15th. hagler finds another level and a deft combo sends the exhausted carmen falling to the canvas like a wet hat. he tries to get up but staggers as he stands upright and the fight is stopped.
hagler TKO 15 basilio
then simply dream up a hypo match up...something like;
15 rounds "small" heavyweight clash
george chuvalo v david tua
Sorry didnt realise my bad
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 25 Mar 2009, 17:10
by Goodnight, Irene
Great fight. Langford upsets the applecart in rising from a 4th-round knockdown to win a split decision.
On the undercard, Tua calls it a day in-between the thirteenth & fourteenth rounds. Unable to move Chuvalo with his one-at-a-time left hooks from hell, Tua winds down & gasses out late. An ugly affair throughout, with both available to hit, but neither man able to budge the other. Chuvalo TKO13.
Main Event: 1995 Ike Quartey (29-0-0) vs. 2007 Ricky Hatton (43-0-0). 12 rounds at Welterweight...
Undercard: 2001 Sven Ottke (24-0-0) & Current Mikkel Kessler (41-1-0) square-off over 12 rounds for the SMW title...
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 02:54
by My2Sense
Goodnight, Irene wrote:
Main Event: 1995 Ike Quartey (29-0-0) vs. 2007 Ricky Hatton (43-0-0). 12 rounds at Welterweight...
Undercard: 2001 Sven Ottke (24-0-0) & Current Mikkel Kessler (41-1-0) square-off over 12 rounds for the SMW title...
Quartey bustes up Hatton with his jab and shorter, quicker punches en route to winning by stoppage somewhere between 5-8 rounds.
Kessler keeps that jackhammer jab pumping into Ottke's face all night and, assuming the fight isn't in Germany, he rightfully wins a decision.
Next up: Ruben Olivares vs. Lupe Pintor, bantamweights.
Re: Hypothetical Match-Up Game
Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 08:49
by harrygreb
olivares starts as favourite in this one but in round 2 finds himself on the floor. was it a slip? he claims it was but the man in the middle gives him a count anyway - a mandatory 8. ruben shows no signs of damage as the round closes out.
in the 3rd olivares sticks pintor with biting jabs and left hand cuffs that bring him back into the fight with a vengeance. for the next 3 rounds ruben establishes his dominance until emerging from a spell of inside stuff with a cut over his right eye. pintor is encouraged by this and pops punch after punch towards the worsening target.
the 9th round sees lupe forcing the fight on olivares and there is a spell of real brutal punching from both men with little defence. ruben is the first to back off and this wins him the fight as pintor misses with a left hook and olivares is waiting with a pounding left of his own that downs lupe pintor for an 8 count. he rises and is under fire from olivares. a solid right left combo puts lupe down again
for the count of 10. great fight both men mention a rematch in post fight interviews.
ok, with marciano losing the eliminator it has to be...
gene tunney v sam langford 15 rounds for the heavyweight championship of the world