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I wonder how much longer we are going to have to wait for news

Spud wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 13:33 I wonder how much longer we are going to have to wait for news

It’ll be when there’s news to report. I’d imagine it’ll be 8-12 weeks at least before anything happens and is announced. Typically these kind of things take time.

Spud wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 13:33 I wonder how much longer we are going to have to wait for news

Doubt anyone will hear much at all from now on , then in 6 months after a hiatus , he'll declare he's back and even though the bbbc have not banned him he's lost 6 months of his training , 6 month of his life , the mental health problems he suffered through the whole torrid affair even though he was innocent , because there was only one sample that was tainted , but the anguish and embarresment nearly killed him , nearly broke his marraige , and now after his self imposed ban of 6-7 months he's ready to prove to the world he does'nt need drugs and he's taking Eubank on at 160 to prove he does'nt even need weight loss agrreements , and he does'nt give a rats arse what people say because the bbbc did'nt ban him and that proves his innocence . .

But IFL and the other arse licking so called journalist will never ask him the questions such has .

Connor its said you failed a drug test even earlier ,which would make it 2 failed tests in one year , what do you say about that .

Connor there was only one tested sample ,, and since you are the only one who can ask for the second test to clear your name , and perhaps a hair follicule sample , which would of cleared you WHY DID'NT YOU .

Connor the Bbbc have not banned you which you say proves your innocence ,, but is it true they have been told by legal people , they cannot ban someone for positive tests , they don't recognise , and to do so (ban ) would leave them open to a multi million pound law suit they cannot afford .

Connor whats your thoughts on boxing has a whole , but british boxing inpaticular , going down the toilet and worse than ever before

Spud wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 05:52

ah, exactly, I mean if you've only known him 2-3 years then I could see the suspicions of PED use, but come on, since when did anyone ever, who was ever known by anybody else for 6-7 whole years, ever be on the gear? It's just unthinkable, and not just that, but I mean Eddie himself has known him and, well, subjective impressions of people's guilt-or-innocence, they're the only way to go, really, all this stuff about evidence, it's so overrated, they do their tests and they have their test tubes and their science, but really, you tell me, how can that be a more reliable method of detecting a drug cheat than just asking someone who's known them a few years if they think they are a drug cheat, and not just that, but can you even think of a more reliable source than someone completely trustworthy and honest and frank and someone with nothing to gain by lying and someone with a long track record of absolute candour and honesty, I mean like Eddie I mean, which we call him 'Mr no-vested-interest, just-giving-my-very-honest-opinion here' Hearn nowadays, what with his reputation for total candour and honesty and never contradicting himself or ever obviously speaking with a forked tongue how the hell could, like, science and laboratories and test tubes compete with that? you tell me.

If people are right and this scandal is swept under the carpet it will be truly disgusting.

Unless I misheard Eddie hints at “small” traces and also hints that Conor is innocent.

FFS … am I being extremely thick, if so please, please enlighten me, but regardless of how small the traces were, wtf are traces of a female drug doing in a male sportsman urine test.

As a genuine boxing fan I imploring the BBBofC not to let this high profile case to be merely forgotten about.

I used to love boxing and simply will never forgive those charged to regulate our sport to accept no comment” as an acceptable answer.

There some fantastic shows coming up between now and xmas … again I really hope the BBBofC show some balls.

If anyone uses the argument “only a tiny amount was found” then that’s ridiculous especially if whatever has been found can’t be explained and just wouldn’t appear in a males blood or urine. Surely if the amount is tiny then that’s because it’s nearly out your system.

The much talked about B sample would rule out cross contamination if it comes back as the same result, which it does in the vast majority of cases.


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Spud wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 07:42 If people are right and this scandal is swept under the carpet it will be truly disgusting.

Unless I misheard Eddie hints at “small” traces and also hints that Conor is innocent.

FFS … am I being extremely thick, if so please, please enlighten me, but regardless of how small the traces were, wtf are traces of a female drug doing in a male sportsman urine test.

As a genuine boxing fan I imploring the BBBofC not to let this high profile case to be merely forgotten about.

I used to love boxing and simply will never forgive those charged to regulate our sport to accept no comment” as an acceptable answer.

There some fantastic shows coming up between now and xmas … again I really hope the BBBofC show some balls.

I’m with you. If this does get swept under the carpet (which I think it will) boxers, pundits and fans should be up in arms

Hearn's entire defence falls apart for me when he tries to attest to it being impossible to game the system in terms of testing, when we all know it's possible through cycling, masking etc. Shame he wasn't challenged on that point as it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.
They are going to try every trick in the book to get out of this one, there's no doubt about that - this is just the start, expect a full PR offensive in the coming weeks now they've had time to construct a narrative.

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 08:58 Hearn's entire defence falls apart for me when

when he opens his mouth? that's the point he lost me

What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:03

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 08:58 Hearn's entire defence falls apart for me when

when he opens his mouth? that's the point he lost me

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:03

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 08:58 Hearn's entire defence falls apart for me when

when he opens his mouth? that's the point he lost me

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 08:58 Hearn's entire defence falls apart for me when he tries to attest to it being impossible to game the system in terms of testing, when we all know it's possible through cycling, masking etc. Shame he wasn't challenged on that point as it doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.
They are going to try every trick in the book to get out of this one, there's no doubt about that - this is just the start, expect a full PR offensive in the coming weeks now they've had time to construct a narrative.

Worse still will Team Benn try the “we want an applogy” line again?

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:05 What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

The radio silence to date is because Hearn and co have had to plan how to diffuse this. I suspect there will have been 3 tracks to this:
Scientific - turning over every stone to undermine the positive test... you're seeing this already with talk about 'traces' and about other tests being negative. Aim will be to make the positive look like an outlier and less significant than it first seemed.
Legal - Will argue due process hasn't been followed etc in a bid to muddy the waters further and cast Benn as the victim rather than the perpetrator.
Emotional - "not the type to do this...', 'not treated fairly', 'sacrifices he's made' etc, etc. Again, it's about casting Benn as the innocent victim in all of this.

Takes time to build the PR narrative around these 3 pillars, but rest assured that's what will have been going on behind the scenes over the past few weeks. now it's time for attack as the best form of defence, hence Hearn starting to engage publicly again, he'll have been briefed on what to say and how to say it... and he'll stick to the script.

Sadly we already know the playbook, Canelo's positive being a perfect example of this.

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:05 What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

The radio silence to date is because Hearn and co have had to plan how to diffuse this. I suspect there will have been 3 tracks to this:
Scientific - turning over every stone to undermine the positive test... you're seeing this already with talk about 'traces' and about other tests being negative. Aim will be to make the positive look like an outlier and less significant than it first seemed.
Legal - Will argue due process hasn't been followed etc in a bid to muddy the waters further and cast Benn as the victim rather than the perpetrator.
Emotional - "not the type to do this...', 'not treated fairly', 'sacrifices he's made' etc, etc. Again, it's about casting Benn as the innocent victim in all of this.

Takes time to build the PR narrative around these 3 pillars, but rest assured that's what will have been going on behind the scenes over the past few weeks. now it's time for attack as the best form of defence, hence Hearn starting to engage publicly again, he'll have been briefed on what to say and how to say it... and he'll stick to the script.

Sadly we already know the playbook, Canelo's positive being a perfect example of this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... press.html

Spud wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:33

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:05 What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

The radio silence to date is because Hearn and co have had to plan how to diffuse this. I suspect there will have been 3 tracks to this:
Scientific - turning over every stone to undermine the positive test... you're seeing this already with talk about 'traces' and about other tests being negative. Aim will be to make the positive look like an outlier and less significant than it first seemed.
Legal - Will argue due process hasn't been followed etc in a bid to muddy the waters further and cast Benn as the victim rather than the perpetrator.
Emotional - "not the type to do this...', 'not treated fairly', 'sacrifices he's made' etc, etc. Again, it's about casting Benn as the innocent victim in all of this.

Takes time to build the PR narrative around these 3 pillars, but rest assured that's what will have been going on behind the scenes over the past few weeks. now it's time for attack as the best form of defence, hence Hearn starting to engage publicly again, he'll have been briefed on what to say and how to say it... and he'll stick to the script.

Sadly we already know the playbook, Canelo's positive being a perfect example of this.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxin ... press.html

And there you go... expect this to be followed by an 'official announcement' questioning the science behind the positive IMO.

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:05 What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

The radio silence to date is because Hearn and co have had to plan how to diffuse this. I suspect there will have been 3 tracks to this:
Scientific - turning over every stone to undermine the positive test... you're seeing this already with talk about 'traces' and about other tests being negative. Aim will be to make the positive look like an outlier and less significant than it first seemed.
Legal - Will argue due process hasn't been followed etc in a bid to muddy the waters further and cast Benn as the victim rather than the perpetrator.
Emotional - "not the type to do this...', 'not treated fairly', 'sacrifices he's made' etc, etc. Again, it's about casting Benn as the innocent victim in all of this.

Takes time to build the PR narrative around these 3 pillars, but rest assured that's what will have been going on behind the scenes over the past few weeks. now it's time for attack as the best form of defence, hence Hearn starting to engage publicly again, he'll have been briefed on what to say and how to say it... and he'll stick to the script.

Sadly we already know the playbook, Canelo's positive being a perfect example of this.

Excellent post, spot on.

So Basically not leak it, fight goes ahead.. 2 months later “Benn failed a test but it’s all sorted now”..

A failed test should be LEAKED at the point of the failed result.

What if they can’t prove it.

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:05 What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

The radio silence to date is because Hearn and co have had to plan how to diffuse this. I suspect there will have been 3 tracks to this:
Scientific - turning over every stone to undermine the positive test... you're seeing this already with talk about 'traces' and about other tests being negative. Aim will be to make the positive look like an outlier and less significant than it first seemed.
Legal - Will argue due process hasn't been followed etc in a bid to muddy the waters further and cast Benn as the victim rather than the perpetrator.
Emotional - "not the type to do this...', 'not treated fairly', 'sacrifices he's made' etc, etc. Again, it's about casting Benn as the innocent victim in all of this.

Takes time to build the PR narrative around these 3 pillars, but rest assured that's what will have been going on behind the scenes over the past few weeks. now it's time for attack as the best form of defence, hence Hearn starting to engage publicly again, he'll have been briefed on what to say and how to say it... and he'll stick to the script.

Sadly we already know the playbook, Canelo's positive being a perfect example of this.

'traces' is very clever, the emotional bollocks just makes Eddie look like a spiv trying too hard IMO, he should stick to throwing shade on the science and the process as he is nowhere near as slick and trustworthy and convincing as he seems to think he is when he turns subjective.

typical salesman type. thinks a few minutes of him sounding off and applying 'Full Eddie Charisma Settings' will win any argument.

Syntax Error wrote: ↑25 Oct 2022, 09:22

Glass Joe wrote: ↑24 Oct 2022, 17:47

Eubank off his rocker in parts of the interview

He seems very keen to claim that Benn isn't a cheat.

Only Benn knows how traces of a female fertility tablet ended up in his system.

Chris Eubank Sr's incessant waffling isn't going to change that fact.

Eubank hates promotors and feels they did him dirty and do boxers dirty.

Wonder how he feels about his daughter dating Frank Smith

Deserter wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:29

Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑26 Oct 2022, 09:05 What’s actually going on now in the background?

What is everyone even doing?

The radio silence to date is because Hearn and co have had to plan how to diffuse this. I suspect there will have been 3 tracks to this:
Scientific - turning over every stone to undermine the positive test... you're seeing this already with talk about 'traces' and about other tests being negative. Aim will be to make the positive look like an outlier and less significant than it first seemed.
Legal - Will argue due process hasn't been followed etc in a bid to muddy the waters further and cast Benn as the victim rather than the perpetrator.
Emotional - "not the type to do this...', 'not treated fairly', 'sacrifices he's made' etc, etc. Again, it's about casting Benn as the innocent victim in all of this.

Takes time to build the PR narrative around these 3 pillars, but rest assured that's what will have been going on behind the scenes over the past few weeks. now it's time for attack as the best form of defence, hence Hearn starting to engage publicly again, he'll have been briefed on what to say and how to say it... and he'll stick to the script.

Sadly we already know the playbook, Canelo's positive being a perfect example of this.

Nicely put

I'd like to think there is a limit as to how much BS the public will take but the boxing public is incredibly naive. They might be able to push these excuses through. It will be a PR drive and we know how stupid boxing fans are. Many will believe him and forget about it all. The journalists will say the right things and lick the right a*se as usual.