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Collins2000 wrote:Who are these 3 old timers?

"The Joe Louis Brain Trust" (l to r) John Roxborough, Julian Black and Jack Blackburn. Circa 1940.

raylawpc wrote:

Collins2000 wrote:Who are these 3 old timers?

"The Joe Louis Brain Trust" (l to r) John Roxborough, Julian Black and Jack Blackburn. Circa 1940.

Absolutely correct, ray. First time I've seen all 3 in one shot.

Well done.

Who was trounced into submission in a first fight by his opponent, yet entered the rematch as a 5/1 favourite?

...there may be others, but joe louis is the only one i can think of...

with chagaev losing this past weekend, who are the only three fighters to hold perfect records in heavyweight title fights?

bennie wrote:Who was trounced into submission in a first fight by his opponent, yet entered the rematch as a 5/1 favourite?

Lewis vs McCall?

I know Wlad was a big favorite vs Brewster in their rematch.

Collins2000 wrote:Who's this former champ?

Did anyone get this one? Former world champ...

Any chance its Gene Fullmer?

Expug wrote:Any chance its Gene Fullmer?

No, but he fought Gene Fullmer!

Basilio?

..perfect records in heavyweight title fights...don't know of any besides marciano and tunney...and if it's one of those alphabet guys i don't count them...


..the profile of the ex champ...i agree with the pick of basilio..

Woo hoo, I've found a good 'un! None of the above are right I relish to say (because I've been outclassed so far on this thread).

Basilio is correct!

jaclem2 wrote:..perfect records in heavyweight title fights...don't know of any besides marciano and tunney...and if it's one of those alphabet guys i don't count them...

yep, marciano 7-0, tunney 3-0 and roy jones 1-0. it's hard for me to believe that this is the list after almost 125 years of heavyweight title fights under queensberry rules.

How about this one?

That would be Mike Estafire.
Also known as Mustapha Hamsho.

bjermaine wrote:

jaclem2 wrote:..perfect records in heavyweight title fights...don't know of any besides marciano and tunney...and if it's one of those alphabet guys i don't count them...

yep, marciano 7-0, tunney 3-0 and roy jones 1-0. it's hard for me to believe that this is the list after almost 125 years of heavyweight title fights under queensberry rules.

That's if you count Jones. Personally, at that weight, I don't. Lewis was the champ at the time. If Jones had beaten Lewis, & only Lewis, I would list him with Marciano & Tunney.

Of course, I'm racist

...jones was one of the alphabet boys, and as i said i do not count them.

so...as 99.99% of boxing followers would agree...it's tunney and marciano...period.

jaclem2 wrote:...jones was one of the alphabet boys, and as i said i do not count them.

so...as 99.99% of boxing followers would agree...it's tunney and marciano...period.

Indeed. LOL @ Jones' inclusion.

Expug wrote:That would be Mike Estafire.
Also known as Mustapha Hamsho.

Good pick, sir!

bennie wrote:Who was trounced into submission in a first fight by his opponent, yet entered the rematch as a 5/1 favourite?

How about Jose Napoles vs Billy Backus?

Guess it depends how one interprets the first part of the question. Napoles was very badly cut which isn't really trounced...

Collins2000 wrote:

bennie wrote:Who was trounced into submission in a first fight by his opponent, yet entered the rematch as a 5/1 favourite?

How about Jose Napoles vs Billy Backus?

Guess it depends how one interprets the first part of the question. Napoles was very badly cut which isn't really trounced...

The guy retired on his stool in the first fight yet was still a heavy favourite for the pathetic rematch....

Expug wrote:That would be Mike Estafire.
Also known as Mustapha Hamsho.

Didn't he even fight under a third name? Great call, Pug.

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

jaclem2 wrote:...jones was one of the alphabet boys, and as i said i do not count them.

so...as 99.99% of boxing followers would agree...it's tunney and marciano...period.

Indeed. LOL @ Jones' inclusion.

sorry my question wasn't up to jaclem2's and irene's standards. don't worry, the both of you don't count either. next time there's a heavyweight title fight i'm sure all the media outlets and promoters will contact you and see if you will sanction it.

if you don't count jones that's up to you but i guess that means you don't count holy-tyson 1 & 2 as title fights either since they were just for the wba title.

since you guys' standards are so high, marciano should really be the only answer to the question. tunney never crossed the color line so he probably shouldn't count either.

bjermaine wrote:

Goodnight, Irene wrote:

jaclem2 wrote:...jones was one of the alphabet boys, and as i said i do not count them.

so...as 99.99% of boxing followers would agree...it's tunney and marciano...period.

Indeed. LOL @ Jones' inclusion.

sorry my question wasn't up to jaclem2's and irene's standards. don't worry, the both of you don't count either. next time there's a heavyweight title fight i'm sure all the media outlets and promoters will contact you and see if you will sanction it.

if you don't count jones that's up to you but i guess that means you don't count holy-tyson 1 & 2 as title fights either since they were just for the wba title.

since you guys' standards are so high, marciano should really be the only answer to the question. tunney never crossed the color line so he probably shouldn't count either.

Who would you have had Tunney cross the color line against? He tried to cross the color line against Wills, but Wills turned him down . . .