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Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 15:52
by Spud
600k+ to the losing party!!! - that why they will let it got to the day of the hearing and settle in the corridors!!!

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 15:56
by twenty six
You might be a bit light there Spudster. :wink: :o

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 16:02
by Spud
twenty six wrote:You might be a bit light there Spudster. :wink: :o
I know who might be heavily involved in the legal side for Billy Graham and he is rather good at what he does!!! - something tells me that camp are rather confident!!

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 16:04
by Spud
One word - who wins?

Hatton

Graham

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 16:39
by twenty six
Spud,
I think this bout should be added to the prediction league.
Runs to a trial - then its either Hatton or Graham by ko.
Settled in the corridor - Graham on points.
I can't see any other outcome for Ricky.
He cant win this on points - KO or be KO'D !!!! :oops:
Bring it on ......

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 16:52
by Poncey
What about if it goes to cuts?

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 16:54
by Spud
twenty six wrote:Spud,
I think this bout should be added to the prediction league.
Runs to a trial - then its either Hatton or Graham by ko.
Settled in the corridor - Graham on points.
I can't see any other outcome for Ricky.
He cant win this on points - KO or be KO'D !!!! :oops:
Bring it on ......
Hey Beagle !!!

Lets just say I know who a lot of people are siding with within boxing and personally it surprised as I thought I was in the minority!!!

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 18:08
by HPI
Spud wrote:
twenty six wrote:Spud,
I think this bout should be added to the prediction league.
Runs to a trial - then its either Hatton or Graham by ko.
Settled in the corridor - Graham on points.
I can't see any other outcome for Ricky.
He cant win this on points - KO or be KO'D !!!! :oops:
Bring it on ......
Hey Beagle !!!

Lets just say I know who a lot of people are siding with within boxing and personally it surprised as I thought I was in the minority!!!
What about your old buddy Mr Hobson?, I heard a rumour he owes Hatton a few quid, what do you know spudster

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 21 May 2009, 19:34
by Phenomenal-Nutrition
twenty six wrote:Spud,
I think this bout should be added to the prediction league.
Runs to a trial - then its either Hatton or Graham by ko.
Settled in the corridor - Graham on points.
I can't see any other outcome for Ricky.
He cant win this on points - KO or be KO'D !!!! :oops:
Bring it on ......
I say he vacates the title and moves down the WBU route.

To escape british law, escapes to China where he makes his own Mancester Town, then puts his millions into building a new football club, Manchester City, China. It was all part of a grand plan with all the Manchester City fans from the beggining, finally they can play in a division where they have a shot at winning something. Would have been simpler to just support United though

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 02:44
by teddy007
Spud wrote:One word - who wins?

Hatton

Graham
Graham, for the good of boxing.

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 04:23
by Spud
HPI wrote: What about your old buddy Mr Hobson?, I heard a rumour he owes Hatton a few quid, what do you know spudster
HPI,

Dennis is not an "old" buddy he is still is a pal and always will be!! :TU:

With regards to your allegation/rumour - if it is true thats yet another court case The Hatton's will be having won't they - if thats the case they will be rapidly catching up a certain promoter who seems to enjoy court proceedings!! - and it will destroy the myth in some peoples opinions that Hatton is a man of the people won't it?

I will further repeat what I have stated about Ricky all along - he has done an immense amount for British Boxing - he and everyone else should be immensley proud of achievements in the ring and indeed in my humble opinion its others close to him which seem to be going out of their way to spoil/tarnish the immense amount of good Ricky has achieved.

Kepp trying with the "bait" HPI - maybe at some stage you will deflect the posters on here from the subject of the thread and that is about Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton. :TU:

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 04:46
by Spud
Here is an article on the situation:

Hatton/Graham

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 07:09
by Poncey
Spud wrote:
HPI wrote: What about your old buddy Mr Hobson?, I heard a rumour he owes Hatton a few quid, what do you know spudster
HPI,

Dennis is not an "old" buddy he is still is a pal and always will be!! :TU:

With regards to your allegation/rumour - if it is true thats yet another court case The Hatton's will be having won't they - if thats the case they will be rapidly catching up a certain promoter who seems to enjoy court proceedings!! - and it will destroy the myth in some peoples opinions that Hatton is a man of the people won't it?

I will further repeat what I have stated about Ricky all along - he has done an immense amount for British Boxing - he and everyone else should be immensley proud of achievements in the ring and indeed in my humble opinion its others close to him which seem to be going out of their way to spoil/tarnish the immense amount of good Ricky has achieved.

Kepp trying with the "bait" HPI - maybe at some stage you will deflect the posters on here from the subject of the thread and that is about Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton. :TU:
It is interesting how any Hatton threads to do with Graham, up HPI pops. I'm amazed acenabox hasn't turned up yet.

8)

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 07:15
by gobbles
Spud wrote:
stujones wrote:Agreed and Signed are two different things. It will be a very straight forward case. Whatever Graham SIGNED for he will get paid.

If he signed nothing - then he will get paid that.
WRONG, WRONG & WRONG.

You are barking way way up the wrong tree.

The verbal agreement between Hatton & Graham was a long standing one - an agreed percentage was paid for quite a considerable time - like I have stated until the Mayweather fight - where it is disputed a set fee/percentage was then agreed for further fights - this is being hotly disputed.

The onus I think you will find is not on Billy Graham - but actually Team Hatton to prove in writing that they have changed what was a long standing agreement.

It is very very strange indeed for a boxer/trainer percentage fee to be changed later in a boxers career precisely for the reason it is not until a fighter gets to superstar status that he is on very eye catching money and lets face it - the odds are similar to winning the lottery!!!! :o :o

Can The Hatton's prove they changed a long standing agreement albeit verbal was changed between Graham and Ricky!!!
On the contrary, it's very common for boxer/trainer fee to be changed later in the career. Boxers are often happy to give 10 per cent when it works out at £600 but often not too happy when it works out as £500,000. Hence lots of trainers get fired when the boxer doesn't feel he is getting value for money.

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 07:30
by HPI
Spud wrote:
HPI wrote: What about your old buddy Mr Hobson?, I heard a rumour he owes Hatton a few quid, what do you know spudster
Kepp trying with the "bait" HPI - maybe at some stage you will deflect the posters on here from the subject of the thread and that is about Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton. :TU:
Sorry spudster, wasnt trying to put any bait down

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 07:34
by HPI
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote:
Spud wrote:
HPI wrote: What about your old buddy Mr Hobson?, I heard a rumour he owes Hatton a few quid, what do you know spudster
HPI,

Dennis is not an "old" buddy he is still is a pal and always will be!! :TU:

With regards to your allegation/rumour - if it is true thats yet another court case The Hatton's will be having won't they - if thats the case they will be rapidly catching up a certain promoter who seems to enjoy court proceedings!! - and it will destroy the myth in some peoples opinions that Hatton is a man of the people won't it?

I will further repeat what I have stated about Ricky all along - he has done an immense amount for British Boxing - he and everyone else should be immensley proud of achievements in the ring and indeed in my humble opinion its others close to him which seem to be going out of their way to spoil/tarnish the immense amount of good Ricky has achieved.

Kepp trying with the "bait" HPI - maybe at some stage you will deflect the posters on here from the subject of the thread and that is about Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton. :TU:
It is interesting how any Hatton threads to do with Graham, up HPI pops. I'm amazed acenabox hasn't turned up yet.

8)
im always here my friend, just dont care to joust with you guys on any other threads

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 10:14
by Spud
HPI wrote:
Spud wrote:
HPI wrote: What about your old buddy Mr Hobson?, I heard a rumour he owes Hatton a few quid, what do you know spudster
Kepp trying with the "bait" HPI - maybe at some stage you will deflect the posters on here from the subject of the thread and that is about Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton. :TU:
Sorry spudster, wasnt trying to put any bait down
You mention on your post below you do not wish to joust - I hardly call your posts on here jousting - they are quite frankly a weak and pathetic attempt to either deflect the sh*t off the subject matter or they are empty and without and substance.

Look at your post on here - what relevance does Dennis Hobson have on Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton?

Anyhow - who are you - you seem to know a little bit of information yet you are one of the countless number of posters who comes on here hiding behind a screenname - come on who are you - what connection do you have to the Hatton camp?

Come on HPI - grow that spine and declare who you are and where you get your information from?

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 10:36
by pablo
It will interesting to see what happens if Graham went to court. I heard the Hattons have a whole list of shortfalls about Graham.

I heard he was drunk in the MGM Grand Hotel bar every night before the fight.

What sort of world class trainer does that.You don't see Freddie Roach and Floyd Mayweather having a whiskey in the bar fight week do you.

This whole "Billy Graham what a nice guy","poor old Billy" is rubbish.

Isn't it strange that Graham has left it two years after the Mayweather fight to complain about his money.

He got very well paid for doing not a lot towards the end of the relationship with Ricky Hatton.

I think he would need Rumple of the Bailey to Graham out of trouble with this court case.

Graham should have taken his money and retired to his house in Atlanta.

AS for Hobson I heard the same rumour that he is getting sued by the Hatton,s.

Hobson is somebody who latched on to the Hatton band wagon. I tried buying tickets for the Maussa fight and got somebody on a mobile at an office in Shefield telling me I had to pay via paypal. Hardly the big time.

I suppose if Hobson owed Hatton money and Hobson didn't pay they got rid of him. Then again Hobson got rid of his right hand man Richard Poxon.

Where is Hobson now.

It's a strange world in boxing where money is concerned. Money corrupts.

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 10:57
by DavidPayne
I know who the bloke in the office was to. He didn't expect your call either.

Big times.

What was the name of that bloke who did kick up in front of the Stretford End but was skint. Reminds me of that.

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:02
by Spud
pablo wrote:It will interesting to see what happens if Graham went to court. I heard the Hattons have a whole list of shortfalls about Graham.

I heard he was drunk in the MGM Grand Hotel bar every night before the fight.

What sort of world class trainer does that.You don't see Freddie Roach and Floyd Mayweather having a whiskey in the bar fight week do you.

This whole "Billy Graham what a nice guy","poor old Billy" is rubbish.

Isn't it strange that Graham has left it two years after the Mayweather fight to complain about his money.

He got very well paid for doing not a lot towards the end of the relationship with Ricky Hatton.

I think he would need Rumple of the Bailey to Graham out of trouble with this court case.

Graham should have taken his money and retired to his house in Atlanta.

AS for Hobson I heard the same rumour that he is getting sued by the Hatton,s.

Hobson is somebody who latched on to the Hatton band wagon. I tried buying tickets for the Maussa fight and got somebody on a mobile at an office in Shefield telling me I had to pay via paypal. Hardly the big time.

I suppose if Hobson owed Hatton money and Hobson didn't pay they got rid of him. Then again Hobson got rid of his right hand man Richard Poxon.

Where is Hobson now.

It's a strange world in boxing where money is concerned. Money corrupts.
:lol: :lol:

Full of sh*t!!!

Yet again you come out with these allegations and yet again you hide behind some computer name - HPI has his turn then suddenly you come on - but this time you come out with your ace cards and they still havn't come off.

You have an awful lot of inside information - why don't you tell us who you really are?

With regards Billy Graham - you are getting mixed up - Billy Graham prior to fights in Vegas used to hide himself away - Ricky used to stay at the UFC house and Billy used to live like a hermit in his room in the Casino - Billy only used to venutre out to complain at me or someone else - or he would go for training and then the fight!!! - now if you are to mention say for instance the Malanaggi fight where Billy wasn't working then maybe he had a few drinks but there again why shouldn't he - he had been sacked by then!!

But then your argument is severly weakened by first of all saying Billy is drunk and then you immediately back track by saying in the next paragrapgh "having a whisky" - I will argue that Billy Graham never got drunk prior to a fight in Vegas when he was working - my criticism of Billy prior to fights is that he got as irritable as the fighters but there again thats understandable - BECAUSE HE CARED!!!

As for your sh*t about Dennis Hobson & Richard Poxon - the only thing you are remotely near is that Richard and Dennis have gone their seperate ways - no one sacked anyone - after the Fight Academy show in Jersey - Dennis and Richard had a discussion and decided to go their seperate ways - the bad thing about this is that it has put people in a slightly awkward position because both people are highly thought of -you see Pablo you cannot be honest with your posts can you?

With regards to a dispute between Hatton's and Hobson - you are forgetting there was a 3rd promoter in all of this aren't you and that is Art Pellulo so I believe any dispute is going to involve him to.

Your last line is indeed very true!!! but be very careful what you say as you might be closer to home than you think!!! :TU:

But again:

You have an awful lot of inside information - why don't you tell us who you really are?

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:23
by HPI
Spud wrote:
You mention on your post below you do not wish to joust - I hardly call your posts on here jousting - they are quite frankly a weak and pathetic attempt to either deflect the sh*t off the subject matter or they are empty and without and substance.

Look at your post on here - what relevance does Dennis Hobson have on Billy Graham suing Ricky Hatton?

Anyhow - who are you - you seem to know a little bit of information yet you are one of the countless number of posters who comes on here hiding behind a screenname - come on who are you - what connection do you have to the Hatton camp?

Come on HPI - grow that spine and declare who you are and where you get your information from?

Here we go again, ive already been through this, all the information i ever use when arguing points is stuff ive read on the intergalactic supernova highway, or heard at boxing shows.

Your a feisty young man arent you

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:26
by Poncey
DavidPayne wrote:I know who the bloke in the office was to. He didn't expect your call either.

Big times.

What was the name of that bloke who did kick up in front of the Stretford End but was skint. Reminds me of that.
Michael Knighton?

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:28
by Poncey
HPI wrote: im always here my friend, just dont care to joust with you guys on any other threads
You should post more often. It's refreshing to have a debate without resorting to "you big gay bear", "eff you pork pie face", etc.

Now, that I've groomed you; sex?

Re: Graham sues Ricky!

Posted: 22 May 2009, 12:32
by HPI
Emerson Poncey Name Ghent wrote: Now, that I've groomed you; sex?
Easy soldier :oo

So early in the relationship as well :lol: