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Maelstrom wrote:Some of you guys really live in a boxing bubble.

Nobody outside of the boxing world knows this fight is happening.

If this does more than 2000 buys I would be surprised. Especially as this is a new channel with no clout.

On the ticket sale front, it would not be the first time a promoter had 'hyped' up the number of sales would it?

If they had 6-7000 on fight night, I think that would be a good attendance.

TheDrowningMan wrote:Taylor vs Abraham + Froch - Dirrell + undercard? I can't argue with that - It represents better value than the vast majority of Sky PPVs. It's just a bit of a shock because Froch, having almost always been on terrestrial, doesn't 'feel' like a PPV fighter. Still, he's most certainly more of one than Amir Khan (nothing against him!) is at this stage.

Maelstrom wrote:

TheDrowningMan wrote:Taylor vs Abraham + Froch - Dirrell + undercard? I can't argue with that - It represents better value than the vast majority of Sky PPVs. It's just a bit of a shock because Froch, having almost always been on terrestrial, doesn't 'feel' like a PPV fighter. Still, he's most certainly more of one than Amir Khan (nothing against him!) is at this stage.

Are you sure????

On what basis?

If Froch sells more for this than any Khan PPV I will send you £100.

banjo wrote:Hennessy is crap, his star fighter beats the current WBC light heavyweight champion in a thriller, beats the former undisputed middleweight champion in another cracking fight yet still nobody outside of Nottingham or the so-called "hardcore" fans know who Carl Froch is. Mick Hennessy's job as a promoter is to promote his fighter and the contests that his fighter participates in to the masses, to generate interest to the general public.

Say what you want about SN's matchmaking but they know how to promote a fighter.

Maelstrom wrote:Just to cast a different light on Hennessy's TV situation...

He has worked with all the major broadcasters: BBC, Sky and ITV, all for long periods.

For some reason, though, he hasn't managed to hold on to any of them - with ITV pulling out now.

I cannot work out why this has happened. Some of his shows of late have had really bad undercards, but traditionally he has put on good, well matched events. And he always used genuine titles.

Ant Evans wrote:

nobby_nobbins wrote:

banjo wrote:Hennessy is crap, his star fighter beats the current WBC light heavyweight champion in a thriller, beats the former undisputed middleweight champion in another cracking fight yet still nobody outside of Nottingham or the so-called "hardcore" fans know who Carl Froch is. Mick Hennessy's job as a promoter is to promote his fighter and the contests that his fighter participates in to the masses, to generate interest to the general public.

Say what you want about SN's matchmaking but they know how to promote a fighter.

No-one outside of hardcore fans knows much about any boxer in this country. That's because the sport has been hidden away from the masses for years on subscription satellite channels. In Germany, where decent matches are shown on free-to-air television, the sport is booming and the average sports fan in the street knows exactly who the champs and main contenders are. Hennessy did not destroy boxing in this country by poaching it from terrestrial television - he is a victim of that short-sighted nonsense.

Sorry buddy, that's not the case. There are ways to build fighters profiles which Meaty Mick simply hasn't used or thought of. First thing I did when UFC signed Nottingham's Dan Hardy was to place a weekly column with the excellent local paper the Evening Post. Clearly someone at Meaty HQ say it, because Froch does won now too. I'm happy to have inspired them, although Dan Hardy is more interesting than Froch and his column is way better.

Promoters like Meaty Mick has zero clue about how media work; how else can you explain him calling editors up crying that one of his fighters was interviewed by boxing writers at a boxing show, one which Meaty did not attend, without his "prior consent"?

How else can you explain several journalists going to Meaty to get his honest view of the Fury v McDonut fight and only for him to say "Fury won every round" and walk off?

And in Germany, TV is pulling out of boxing - unless it is Klitschko boxing. That's a decision based on them paying too much money for the ratings they are getting. Ratings are decent, but they money they are paying is silly money based on what boxing did on German TV 5 years ago when guys like Dariusz M were about.

I go to Germany all the time with work; and unless you are talking K2 brothers or retired fighters like Maske or Dariusz M, they have no clue. But, think about it, how many "man on the street" types can tell you any F1 drivers outside of Lewis Hamilton and maybe Jenson Button without resorting to retired drivers like Damon Hill? Not many. I can't name you one English cricketer. I can't name you any England football players, other than Ashley Cole, and I only know him because I fancy his wife.

In wider culture, does "the man on the street" know any of the Sugababes for example? Prob not, despite them getting on TV all the time. The days of true "crossover" stars went the way of the dodo once we had more than 20 TV channels.

Ant Evans wrote:

Why are you arguing against having better cards? Times have clearly changed and crossover fans want a full night of good fights, not main event and load of crap.

Autobarn wrote:be more specific would you - detox? colonic irrigation?

seriously, how can he raise his promoting to do justice to carl froch

Ant Evans wrote: The days of true "crossover" stars went the way of the dodo once we had more than 20 TV channels.

leforge wrote:Figures were reasonable for Pascal, his promtional team need to take some blame for this!