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kevo wrote:

kevo wrote:

tzyuforever wrote:UNMATCHED FIGHTERS

BOSSTYCOON - ERIK MORALES
BOXBUZZ - BENNY BASS
FIST OF LEGEND - JUAN MANUEL MARQUEZ
P4P1 - NASEEM HAMED, JEFF FENECH

Olivares will take on any of this shower

bump

I'm sure you didn't see it but Marquez offered Olivares a fight on the previous page so I'm just going to go ahead and say Marquez vs Olivares is signed!

jBacca wrote:

armageto wrote:

Crease wrote: PROOF?

I'm sure somebody that owns the game can tell us. There is no way T.J.F. was rated higher than Moore, Charles, and some other guys......

Spinks, Charles, Moore, Tunney were higher for a start.

I've seen the game's rankings before and if I rememmber correctly the 4 that Jbacca mentioned are the highest rated boxers at Light-Heavyweight in the game

The top 10 rated LHW's, according to the sim

1 Tunney
2 Spinks
3 Moore
4 Langford
5 Stribling
6 Loughran
7 JH Lewis
8 Gibbons
9 Foster
10 Charles

UNMATCHED FIGHTERS

BOSSTYCOON - ERIK MORALES
BOXBUZZ - BENNY BASS
P4P1 - NASEEM HAMED, JEFF FENECH

Morales-Hamed and Bass-Fenech?

tzyuforever wrote:The top 10 rated LHW's, according to the sim

1 Tunney
2 Spinks
3 Moore
4 Langford
5 Stribling
6 Loughran
7 JH Lewis
8 Gibbons
9 Foster
10 Charles

Puts TJF's and Sav's achievements into perspective.

Makes my 'nearly there' season look quite poor :(

morales will fight anyone who's left

Hope Fenech takes the Bass fight..


By the way Rosenbloom had even better stats than his record of multi championships would reveal. The guy out punched his opponents in EVERY OUTING including his losses and was NEVER KO"D. Though in the Hopkins affair the fight was stopped early on a DQ By Rosenbloom. He was unfairly beating down Hopkins in the eyes of the ref.

TJF and Rosenbloom were "non top ten" fighters who were managed in superlative fashion.

You do not need the "best of the best" in skill and talent, when you have solid managment.

Of course in the case of TJF it was more about statistical anomolies and over indulgence in sim steroids. In the case of Rosenbloom it was of course all management expertise.

SAV wrote:morales will fight anyone who's left

Morales seems to be getting avoided week after week...
He could very well turn into this seasons Toommy Loughran.

Crease wrote:

armageto wrote:Again, missing the point. T.J.F. wasn't the highest ranked fighter stat wise, according to the sim.

PROOF?

Point proven?

armageto wrote:Point proven?

Yes, conclusively... For a moment I forgot that this was being run on a game (Title Bout Boxing II) or something like that.

But cheers for enlightening me.

I might also ask, according to the game (TBII or whatever)
Who is the top 5 ranked Featherweights?

I am guessing: Pep, Arguello, Armstrong, Chocolate....
(not sure about the 5th)... Saddler maybe?

tzyuforever wrote:The top 10 rated LHW's, according to the sim

1 Tunney
2 Spinks
3 Moore
4 Langford
5 Stribling
6 Loughran
7 JH Lewis
8 Gibbons
9 Foster
10 Charles

Charles was only 10?!?! I thought he would be top 3, to be honest. The sim really is weird. First thing is the rankings of some fighters, IMO. They have to only affect the season to some degree though. Not sure what the factors are? Is it a fighter going on a win streak and getting hot? Is it just random? Every season we have a few fighters who disappoint, a few who do better than expected and one who comes out of nowhere to be a top fighter for the season, or one of the top fighters.

With these rankings, Stribling (5) was 1-1 against Charles (10), winning one of the fights because Charles broke his hand, up in the contest. Stribling was beat to bits by Bivens (Unranked) twice. Charles was 1-3 against Spinks (2), but 3-0 against Tunney (1). I know styles make fights, just sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to how a season plays out or where/how they rank some of these guys.

I do feel this season could turn out to be one of the better ones. A lot of guys, at least early on, look to be on the same level. Most people are trying to make the best fights that they can.

Crease wrote:I might also ask, according to the game (TBII or whatever)
Who is the top 5 ranked Featherweights?

I am guessing: Pep, Arguello, Armstrong, Chocolate....
(not sure about the 5th)... Saddler maybe?

I think it's kind of unfair to do it during the season, just for the sake of match-up making.

Crease wrote:I might also ask, according to the game (TBII or whatever)
Who is the top 5 ranked Featherweights?

I am guessing: Pep, Arguello, Armstrong, Chocolate....
(not sure about the 5th)... Saddler maybe?

I can't reveal that while the season on ongoing.

tzyuforever wrote:I can't reveal that while the season on ongoing.

I apologise Commish... I can see that I overstepped the mark.

armageto wrote:

tzyuforever wrote:The top 10 rated LHW's, according to the sim

1 Tunney
2 Spinks
3 Moore
4 Langford
5 Stribling
6 Loughran
7 JH Lewis
8 Gibbons
9 Foster
10 Charles

Charles was only 10?!?! I thought he would be top 3, to be honest. The sim really is weird. First thing is the rankings of some fighters, IMO. They have to only affect the season to some degree though. Not sure what the factors are? Is it a fighter going on a win streak and getting hot? Is it just random? Every season we have a few fighters who disappoint, a few who do better than expected and one who comes out of nowhere to be a top fighter for the season, or one of the top fighters.

With these rankings, Stribling (5) was 1-1 against Charles (10), winning one of the fights because Charles broke his hand, up in the contest. Stribling was beat to bits by Bivens (Unranked) twice. Charles was 1-3 against Spinks (2), but 3-0 against Tunney (1). I know styles make fights, just sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to how a season plays out or where/how they rank some of these guys.

I do feel this season could turn out to be one of the better ones. A lot of guys, at least early on, look to be on the same level. Most people are trying to make the best fights that they can.

I think boxers have their peak periods (look at Moore, started poor but became unstoppable). Also, maybe trainers play a relatively big part.

tzyuforever wrote:The top 10 rated LHW's, according to the sim
1 Tunney
2 Spinks
3 Moore
4 Langford
5 Stribling
6 Loughran
7 JH Lewis
8 Gibbons
9 Foster
10 Charles

I guess that just makes Fox's achievements all the more great!

One thing to remember... Manny Steward and TJF are a great, great combo.

jBacca wrote:One thing to remember... Manny Steward and TJF are a great, great combo.

As are Kevo and Manny Pacquaio.

Crease wrote:

SAV wrote:morales will fight anyone who's left

Morales seems to be getting avoided week after week...
He could very well turn into this seasons Toommy Loughran.

You are a burnt out bulb Crease.

Barrera RAN from Nelson......and CONTINUES to run. Now stop with your truculence and get in touch with the facts.

BoxBuzz wrote:Morales RAN from Nelson......and CONTINUES to run.

Then why hasn't Nelson called out Morales?
(Especially when Morales didn't have any offers for a fight?)

BoxBuzz wrote:get in touch with the facts.

The FACTS are for the 2nd week in a row Morales has not been called out...

Why are you misquoting me? Morales was KO'd All you need to focus on is your shameful ducking in week 5.....it is preserved in the history books and tells one chapter of an ever growing series of shameful decisions by you on behalf of your fighters.

Week 5
#14 Nelson Calls out Marco Antonio Barrera outcome: DUCK, manager Crease
#15 Bass Calls out Sugar Ramos outcome: fight accepted: Manager madball
#16 Nelson Calls out Eric Morales outcome fight accepted, Manager: BossTycoon Nelson KO's Morales in 10.

buzz please watch your mouth when referring to sav promotions and our affiliates. you know damn well we run from NOONE!!! every season we've accepted your challenges winning the large majority.

Fist of Legend wrote:I'm sure you didn't see it but Marquez offered Olivares a fight on the previous page so I'm just going to go ahead and say Marquez vs Olivares is signed!

Sorry FoL, sign the fight!!