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Genuine lol at the people who believe joey c has a decent record.

Any back to the thread, I'm 100% confident smith will win this.

Degale can't punch at all and we know smith has a great chin, smith will walk through those hand slap flurries. Smith is a strong lad and will sire wear Degale down.

I honestly think regale thinks he is sugar ray Leonard, his heart will go when he realises the ref won't stop the fight after throwing 10 slaps on the arms.

Pop, agreed. I can see from the current users list that a few esb boys have come over to check out what's being said. Hiya boys!

The mighty POB wrote:I have the fight, Hopkins clearly won it by 2 rounds. Most people who actually know about boxing agree.

Calzaghes legacy is a farce

Career beat wins again ;

Peter manfredolol,
Jeff loly,
Mikel kesslol ( who a very limited Froch only just got beat by.
Oh and a shot to bits Roy jones.

What a fighter joey c was.

oh my god, and people are still moaning about ESB

Word up LP! It's basically you get the same crap written but on a different site innit? There ain't massive differences between the two really

StevenB wrote:

The mighty POB wrote:I have the fight, Hopkins clearly won it by 2 rounds. Most people who actually know about boxing agree.

Calzaghes legacy is a farce

Career beat wins again ;

Peter manfredolol,
Jeff loly,
Mikel kesslol ( who a very limited Froch only just got beat by.
Oh and a shot to bits Roy jones.

What a fighter joey c was.

How's your ring career coming on? Toolpiece

Lol i think you'll find most sane people think Calzaghe won the fight and that Hopkins should have lost points and not been given time to rest when faking a low blow. But thats Joe Cortez for you.

If hopkins had been awarded that fight it would have damaged boxings reputation since hopkins never even actually tried boxing in that bout. Lets not even mention that calzaghe landed more punches than any other fighter ever has on hopkins.

Hopkins himself said after the fight he thought calzaghe lost but then contradicted himself in another interview (after he had obviously watched the fight) by saying calzaghe landed so many punches he thought he was at the bejing olympics.

You forgot to mention he beat eubank too - how many world title holders did he beat through his career? what 10 something like that?

What the fornicate is esb ?

[former] world title holders

avidlemon wrote:Word up LP! It's basically you get the same crap written but on a different site innit? There ain't massive differences between the two really

not by the looks of it

can u upload vid's here????

i think this fight has come 1 fight to soon for degale. he might get an early lead but smith takes it down the stretch for me.

hats off for degale for taking the fight tho, win lose or draw

Yeah, I think you have to credit both fighters for taking this fight. Degale is far too green IMO. He won't be out if the fight by any means, but smigga for me is too seasoned, too much experiance, and let's have it right, far too good if a boxer for degale right now. I have a feeling degale is going to get a bit of a beating and schooling in this fight. And to be fair I think smigga will really cement his credentials in terms of stepping up in class should He win (which he will)

wolfy wrote:

Deno1986 wrote:Paul Smith has come into the bookies at 15/8 and Degale is 2/5. Very nice price to back Smigga at.

I'll lay you 10/1 Smith.

Not a prayer.

Ill take that bet 10/1 ill have 2k on smigga

avidlemon wrote:Yeah, I think you have to credit both fighters for taking this fight. Degale is far too green IMO. He won't be out if the fight by any means, but smigga for me is too seasoned, too much experiance, and let's have it right, far too good if a boxer for degale right now. I have a feeling degale is going to get a bit of a beating and schooling in this fight. And to be fair I think smigga will really cement his credentials in terms of stepping up in class should He win (which he will)

i agree, i also see degale becoming very dis-heartened when things dont go his way, but were see

orbtastic wrote:[former] world title holders

Is that how he won the belts is it? Some of those fighters won world titles after fighting him.

Great test of character for both. We know smiggas got the heart to cope. I am so excited by this fight!

Smith v degale will be good one its an unknown. DeGale is a bit of a stranger we dont know his temprament yet - he could go in the ring and break down when things arent going his way and get humiliated, or he could put on an absolute blinder.

One things for sure if anyone in this country can put the breaks on degales whirlwind career its Smith.

kingfinn wrote:Smith v degale will be good one its an unknown. DeGale is a bit of a stranger we dont know his temprament yet - he could go in the ring and break down when things arent going his way and get humiliated, or he could put on an absolute blinder.

One things for sure if anyone in this country can put the breaks on degales whirlwind career its Smith.

yep, good post

kingfinn wrote:

orbtastic wrote:[former] world title holders

Is that how he won the belts is it? Some of those fighters won world titles after fighting him.

Some were former belt holders, that's a fact.

People gyp him for fighting Ottke's offcasts but most forget Ottke fought Calzaghe's offcasts too.

Hard fight to call, hopefully Smith does him.

Good luck Smigga

Deno1986 wrote:Paul Smith has come into the bookies at 15/8 and Degale is 2/5. Very nice price to back Smigga at.

You might as well chuck your money away.

orbtastic wrote:

kingfinn wrote:

orbtastic wrote:[former] world title holders

Is that how he won the belts is it? Some of those fighters won world titles after fighting him.

Some were former belt holders, that's a fact.

People gyp him for fighting Ottke's offcasts but most forget Ottke fought Calzaghe's offcasts too.

I wasnt disputing that i was pointing out your blanket statement.

as much as degale is a massive talent and a potential future world champ i really want smith to win this, smigga if ur listening get some serious southpaw sparring partners in for this and pressure, pressure, pressure will upset chunkys cocksure rhythm and as yet its not ben proven if he can hold a good shot(although im sure uve got the inside track on that). good luck dude.

Frank will win this one. Either way he comes out with a Super-Mid stepping up.

if smith can tough it out he will win & welcome chunky to the pro's.

one thing this match up is, is very interesting. brittish boxing needs more of these.

I don't want to comment on who will win. and unlike most, have no real prefference, like to see all brittish fighter do well.
2 things are obvious though, it's a match up of talent versus experience (smigga if you're reading this that is not an implication you're talentless.... you know what i mean though)
the big question is, is degale ready for this step up in class? he has the ability to go all the way, but is this too early. but it'd be a massive springboard for him in only his 9th contest if he could win it. he's taken a big risk fighting someone as good as smith this early
if smth wins, it'll be a big win for him too, taking out "the next big thing." if smigga wins, it's a big victory, that'll get him noticed. how far does he go after a win like that?

it's a great match up that will have people talking on here right up to the opening bell. as will the full december 11th bill, which is shaping up to be a great night of boxing in the same way the mag 7 was.

all in all, good for brittish boxing.

kingfinn wrote:

orbtastic wrote:

kingfinn wrote: Is that how he won the belts is it? Some of those fighters won world titles after fighting him.

Some were former belt holders, that's a fact.

People gyp him for fighting Ottke's offcasts but most forget Ottke fought Calzaghe's offcasts too.

I wasnt disputing that i was pointing out your blanket statement.

and I was correcting yours:

"You forgot to mention he beat eubank too - how many world title holders did he beat through his career? what 10 something like that?"

He beat 2 world title holders, not 10. Big difference.

Lacy and Kessler.

Eubank, Reid, Woodhall, Brewer, Mitchell, Hopkins & Jones, all former world champs.

Only one of those 9 went on to hold another title.

That is still a who's who of great boxers of the last 20 years, and Calzaghi beat them all regardless.



Audley won gold, and after starting good, he turned out to be a flop.