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crusader wrote:Given all the times he was hurt or dropped before, I don't know how anyone could think his chin was steady.

What do we think now?

Is Maidana not a bigger puncher than all those others? Khan was wobbled and stunned but he fired back, so his chin and recuperative powers cant be that bad, can they?

seyyithan wrote:

damianhucker1 wrote:anyone notice maidana swinging for khan when he tried to touch gloves , in the first and then again in the 11th

I did , what a jerk off ....whats the matter with this guy.?

typical Argie..

he saw the advantage to grab the win but failed...

In an arse-about-face kind of way I think Khan's vulnerabilities tonight (and the win, obviously) will have done him a LOT of favours. He'll have no shortage of people wanting to fight him now (Andre Berto's already tweeted about the possibility). That means $$$ !

Great fight.

Would Bradley and Alexander stand up to the punishment Khan dished out early?

Bradley might, Alexander's shown some vunerability though. I don't want to think about another Khan fight after tonight, jesus...

greenyox3 wrote:In an arse-about-face kind of way I think Khan's vulnerabilities tonight (and the win, obviously) will have done him a LOT of favours. He'll have no shortage of people wanting to fight him now (Andre Berto's already tweeted about the possibility). That means $$$ !

Berto? Who wants to see Khan vs Berto?

bengulnaci1 wrote:

crusader wrote:Given all the times he was hurt or dropped before, I don't know how anyone could think his chin was steady.

What do we think now?

Is Maidana not a bigger puncher than all those others? Khan was wobbled and stunned but he fired back, so his chin and recuperative powers cant be that bad, can they?

I was talking about opinions before the fight, and I don't see how anyone could think he had a decent chin coming into this fight (Khan has shown good recuperative powers in the past). They would be ignoring his multiple trips to the canvas as an amateur and a pro against average/light hitters. Tonight he showed an ability to take a punch that has been hitherto absent. Sometimes one performance can be misleading, so I would like to see him again before I am confident about saying he has a solid chin, but tonight was certainly an auspcious performance.

BAMBI wrote:

seyyithan wrote:

damianhucker1 wrote:anyone notice maidana swinging for khan when he tried to touch gloves , in the first and then again in the 11th

I did , what a jerk off ....whats the matter with this guy.?

typical Argie..

he saw the advantage to grab the win but failed...

it looks like typical with them...my memory takes me to Ali vs Bonavena fight .

someone has to teach these kids what it means to have "character ".

seyyithan wrote:

damianhucker1 wrote:anyone notice maidana swinging for khan when he tried to touch gloves , in the first and then again in the 11th

I did , what a jerk off ....whats the matter with this guy.?

yeah i saw that as well mate.
Ok it was a great fight and AK came through etc etc and I am glad he won but some of the criticism around his defense will come up and validly so IMO. Maidana is pretty crude yet he tagged khan quite a bit, khan stopped using the jab and didn't control center of ring 5th onwards. Against soemone as crude as that he should have been able to use his boxing ability to nullify his offense and box rings around him.

btw argies keep mentioning Falklands in media cause a British company found oil in north falkland's basin and they want it I guess and trying to resurrect their calim over teh islands and surrounding sea

Does anyone think that a large part of the "chin" issue is conditioning? Khan was hurt badly, but clearly Roach and Azica (spelling? that guy who works with Pacquiao) have him in incredible condition, and he just recovered because of that.

Anyway, superb match from Khan. He needs a long time off now, because that was punishing, but I suspect it might have taken more out of Maidana, because he took a huge number of rat-tat-tat head shots which weren't powderpuff stuff in the first 7 rounds.

Roach has to work on Khan's defence, and his holding. There's a technique to tying a man up on the inside, and it's not something that comes natural to Khan. Plus, he was horribly vulnerable to the uppercut. He kind of leans forward into it when he's covering up, and every single opponent will have seen than and will use it in the future. I think in general that people are being harsh on Khan's defence because you're bound to take punches of a guy who brings pressure like Maidana, who brings it like few in the division, these days. His defence needs work -- sure, as I say, he could tighten up -- but let's not forget Maidana is a world class pressure fighter, one of the best in a hot division, and has a goulish ability to take punches that would keep others at bay.

If I had to bet now, I'd say a long layoff to recover and then a fight in the UK in March/April. Put you money on Khan-Marquez at the MEN. That'd sell like hotcakes and Khan really should win.

Carbo wrote:Does anyone think that a large part of the "chin" issue is conditioning? Khan was hurt badly, but clearly Roach and Azica (spelling? that guy who works with Pacquiao) have him in incredible condition, and he just recovered because of that.

Anyway, superb match from Khan. He needs a long time off now, because that was punishing, but I suspect it might have taken more out of Maidana, because he took a huge number of rat-tat-tat head shots which weren't powderpuff stuff in the first 7 rounds.

Roach has to work on Khan's defence, and his holding. There's a technique to tying a man up on the inside, and it's not something that comes natural to Khan. Plus, he was horribly vulnerable to the uppercut. He kind of leans forward into it when he's covering up, and every single opponent will have seen than and will use it in the future.

If I had to bet now, I'd say a long layoff to recover and then a fight in the UK in March/April. Put you money on Khan-Marquez at the MEN. That'd sell like hotcakes and Khan really should win.

Khan has shown that he can recover and come back to win in the past though. I'm not sure if it was conditioning. The one time he didn't get back up was just 55 seconds into the first round, and I don't think conditioning means much at that point.

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Bradley or Alexander doesnt posses the same power as Maidana. And it'll be a very, very long ask for Ortiz to box with Khan. You can out fight Khan but you cant out box him.


I see Khan beating those three.

darren_simion wrote:Bradley or Alexander doesnt posses the same power as Maidana. And it'll be a very, very long ask for Ortiz to box with Khan. You can out fight Khan but you cant out box him.


I see Khan beating those three.

I agree.

Amir showed some great attributes tonight (heart/chin etc.) However once the dust is settled I think he needs to have a detailed look at the fight.

He got hit far too much, simple as. He should have been in and out behind the jab (like he did against Kotelnik) and not been in such a brawl.

I imagine this was Roach's strategy so whilst he will no doubt publicly praise the bravery I can see Amir getting a dressing down behind closed doors for not following instructions.

Does nobody view Maidana as a really effective pressure fighter?

He's good in close and is suprisingly accurate from range with those lunge shots, but I thought his cutting off of the ring was poor.

I think Khan is too leaky also, not sure he'll ever fix that.

Khan would destroy Ortiz. I think he would beat Alexander and Bradley as well. The latter would be the toughest fight of the three for him for me. No reason why he can't clean up though.

A definite FOTY contender! Khan showed great heart and powers of recovery, he took some great right hands, I don't think it was Khan's best performance as his defence was sloppy and he got caught with a lot but that fight would of won him a lot of fans. I had it 113-112 to Khan

I think it's funny that they came in with the Malvinas sign. Probably thought it might wind up Khan but it's barely known about over here whilst the Argies are taught from a young age that it's a big issue and they still own them. Argie text books show the Falklands as being their territory.

Fair play to Khan, shows like he showed some real guts. Bradley/Alexander at some point next year will do

There's a really excellent collection of photos from the night here.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/gallery ... 46&index=0