BoxRec

lefthook82 wrote:@keith, I just came here to delete the post but then I'm hearing the twat talk now and I stand by it.

What did he say that was so offensive?

crusader wrote:Camarelle is vastly superior to Firtha. I cannot believe that someone would argue the opposite.

how may pro fights Camarelle had then ?
GTFOH

lefthook82 wrote:@keith, I just came here to delete the post but then I'm hearing the twat talk now and I stand by it.

That's out of order, he didn't say anything 'twattish', do you want every boxer to be polite and docile?

So the technical problem was in London?? It might be grim up north, but at least the tele works.

exittored wrote:

lefthook82 wrote:@keith, I just came here to delete the post but then I'm hearing the twat talk now and I stand by it.

That's out of order, he didn't say anything 'twattish', do you want every boxer to be polite and docile?

He's just a hater mate.

loaded_gloves wrote:Had I been watching that fight with a non-boxing fan I would honestly have been embarrassed. It was like WWF wrestling.

The pair of them were so slow, fat and unfit, the fight was so crude. Then a terrible stoppage that we have become accustomed to as UK boxing viewers. I am sick to death of the UK scene, British referees, and the constant selling of fighters who aren't world class as 'champs' or 'contenders'.

Fury is a KO loss waiting to happen. What a blessed run he has had. Early ITV exposure despite being grossly overweight and boxing some of the worst looking opponents we've seen since early Audley. A gift over John McDermott after losing widely, opponents like Chisora and Firtha who hurt him but are too fat to close the show. "World Champion"? Maybe of beer drinking.

Have to agree

Quixall wrote:

loaded_gloves wrote:Had I been watching that fight with a non-boxing fan I would honestly have been embarrassed. It was like WWF wrestling.

The pair of them were so slow, fat and unfit, the fight was so crude. Then a terrible stoppage that we have become accustomed to as UK boxing viewers. I am sick to death of the UK scene, British referees, and the constant selling of fighters who aren't world class as 'champs' or 'contenders'.

Fury is a KO loss waiting to happen. What a blessed run he has had. Early ITV exposure despite being grossly overweight and boxing some of the worst looking opponents we've seen since early Audley. A gift over John McDermott after losing widely, opponents like Chisora and Firtha who hurt him but are too fat to close the show. "World Champion"? Maybe of beer drinking.

Have to agree

you agree with the opponents comment??

mrpedigree wrote:

gobbles wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:go away you idiot...lets see price take a big shot like that on the temple and come back and win a fight.... have you even seen "pricey" get stopped in armatures ?

Price did that in the Commonwealth Games semis.
Price destroys Fury. Fury has no defence. Two fights running he's been badly rocked.

Price got stopped by Camarelle in the amateurs but the class divide between Camarelle and some guy like Firtha is so enormous as to make comparisons totally worthless. Price also punches far harder than Fury, Chisora and Firtha.

So your comparing an armature like Camarelle to a seasoned pro like Firtha who fought and went 12 rounds for a world title ??
WOW your gone

What a clown. Camarelle a two-time world amateur champion and Olympic champion.
I suppose Felix Savon and Teofilo Stevenson would have lost to Firtha too.
Firtha got knocked out by Tye Fields!

mrpedigree wrote:

crusader wrote:Camarelle is vastly superior to Firtha. I cannot believe that someone would argue the opposite.

how may pro fights Camarelle had then ?
GTFOH

The number of pro fights Camarelle has means little, and you're ignorant if you believe that professional fighters are inherently superior to amateur fighters; the descriptors used to partition the two ranks are suggestive of differences in rules, not class.

Cammarelle does virtually everything better than Firtha; he's faster, he punches harder, his defense is better, and he has much more boxing skill. If Cammarelle were to turn professional, he would be a massive favorite over Firtha, who has lost to several opponents who have not enjoyed success at any significant level as a pro or amateur.

mrpedigree wrote:

jBacca wrote:
I can't remember Fury doing that to Price. I do remember Price's arm getting raised though.

Fury was a child then tho wasnt he ?? remind me how old was he ? 16 ?? price was like 24

Do you just make stuff up as you go along?

How would a 16 year old fight a 24 year old???

I believe Fury was 19 and had written to Boxing News calling Price out. Fury later claimed to have put Price on the floor, which was also a complete lie, as I believe was proved on this very site.

Fury looked the best I've seen him, jabbing with real authority, good uppercut when he usedbut could do with a bit more accuracy and of course he needs to tackle his defence. Needs to get his full weight behind his right hand.

Regarding the stoppage, Firtha was tough man and showed a big heart but his money shot right hand was looking very tired the last couple he threw .He'd definitely shot his bolt and was ready to go. So I'm not too fussed.

WTF was that all about. Fury gets battered in round three and the fight goes on. Firtha takes a couple of decent shots in round five and the fight gets stopped. Firtha gets pushed down after a punch and the ref gives him a count. Seemed to me the ref was biased and wanted to give the fight to Fury. Fury is getting better but his defense isnt good so for my money Price beats him.

WildWaylon wrote:WTF was that all about. Fury gets battered in round three and the fight goes on. Firtha takes a couple of decent shots in round five and the fight gets stopped. Firtha gets pushed down after a punch and the ref gives him a count. Seemed to me the ref was biased and wanted to give the fight to Fury. Fury is getting better but his defense isnt good so for my money Price beats him.

Firtha was finished but he could have stayed and eaten a few more shots for good measure.

gobbles wrote:

mrpedigree wrote:

jBacca wrote:
I can't remember Fury doing that to Price. I do remember Price's arm getting raised though.

Fury was a child then tho wasnt he ?? remind me how old was he ? 16 ?? price was like 24

Do you just make stuff up as you go along?

How would a 16 year old fight a 24 year old???

I believe Fury was 19 and had written to Boxing News calling Price out. Fury later claimed to have put Price on the floor, which was also a complete lie, as I believe was proved on this very site.

I was being sarcastic ... I know the official figure ...but how old where they when they fought in the AMS?

Look i ent saying fury is a word beater ,But Like i said what other UK Heavyweight has/is fighting the level of opposition Fury is right now ?

Fury's currently ranked #10 by BoxRec, probably because of his poor quality of opponents.

What round was it stopped in?

keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury's currently ranked #10 by BoxRec, probably because of his poor quality of opponents.

mate the boxrec rankings are load of wank! If he the 10th best heavy in the world. Heavyweight boxing is fucked!

leforge wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury's currently ranked #10 by BoxRec, probably because of his poor quality of opponents.

mate the boxrec rankings are load of wank! If he the 10th best heavy in the world. Heavyweight boxing is fucked!

The rankings go on who you've beat, not how good you are.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fury's a future world champion.

and Povetkin is the will beat both Klitschkos.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

leforge wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury's currently ranked #10 by BoxRec, probably because of his poor quality of opponents.

mate the boxrec rankings are load of wank! If he the 10th best heavy in the world. Heavyweight boxing is fucked!

The rankings go on who you've beat, not how good you are.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fury's a future world champion.

and Povetkin is the will beat both Klitschkos.

Back to the film making I think rather than boxing predictions!

keithmoonhangover wrote:

leforge wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:Fury's currently ranked #10 by BoxRec, probably because of his poor quality of opponents.

mate the boxrec rankings are load of wank! If he the 10th best heavy in the world. Heavyweight boxing is fucked!

The rankings go on who you've beat, not how good you are.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fury's a future world champion.

and Povetkin is the will beat both Klitschkos.

Ever considered rehab for that drug addiction? u've been smoking crack whilst watching povetkins fights right?

leforge wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

leforge wrote: mate the boxrec rankings are load of wank! If he the 10th best heavy in the world. Heavyweight boxing is fucked!

The rankings go on who you've beat, not how good you are.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fury's a future world champion.

and Povetkin is the will beat both Klitschkos.

Back to the film making I think rather than boxing predictions![/quote

I get no better. Lol

kingfinn wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

leforge wrote: mate the boxrec rankings are load of wank! If he the 10th best heavy in the world. Heavyweight boxing is fucked!

The rankings go on who you've beat, not how good you are.

I've said it before and I'll say it again Fury's a future world champion.

and Povetkin is the will beat both Klitschkos.

Ever considered rehab for that drug addiction? u've been smoking crack whilst watching povetkins fights right?

I honesly think Povetkin will be #1 in the world by thr end of next year. He can beat any heavy on the planet. BtW, I prefer crystal meth!

people moan about no boxing on tv, yet complain with channel 5's coverage? fornicating primetime ballsed up every time since they started showing boxing, and they charge for it! stop moaning and enjoy boxing where it should be - on a free to air channel.

price is far less experienced than fury, you cant count the amateurs, its fornicating fencing. price holds his head up like a beacon. he has the power to ko fury but can he get his robotic body in the position to land the big shot? i also think price cant take a decent shot, where fury can. ok fury got wobbled tonight but i reckon price would have been down with the same shot.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

Quixall wrote:

loaded_gloves wrote:Had I been watching that fight with a non-boxing fan I would honestly have been embarrassed. It was like WWF wrestling.

The pair of them were so slow, fat and unfit, the fight was so crude. Then a terrible stoppage that we have become accustomed to as UK boxing viewers. I am sick to death of the UK scene, British referees, and the constant selling of fighters who aren't world class as 'champs' or 'contenders'.

Fury is a KO loss waiting to happen. What a blessed run he has had. Early ITV exposure despite being grossly overweight and boxing some of the worst looking opponents we've seen since early Audley. A gift over John McDermott after losing widely, opponents like Chisora and Firtha who hurt him but are too fat to close the show. "World Champion"? Maybe of beer drinking.

Have to agree

you agree with the opponents comment??

No, its quite simple................I agree with what was written about Fury !!
I think he is more hype than anything else, looks out of condition, has no defence and limited technical ability. He has an improving jab and a decent repatoire of punches, but he doesn't throw his punches correctly, has no proper strategy for his fights and just gets into brawls that he wins through guts, his size and the fact that the opposition is very poor. The fact that this Firtha fella fought Povetkin and went the distance tells you an awful lot about the quality of the division outside of the Klitschko brothers. The quality doesn't step up until you reach the very top, so Fury has a chance of getting somewhere, but for me he is still raw, needs a complete overhaul of his camp and who trains him and could do with moving outside of his family ties, because i think he has gone as far as he can with his uncle Hughie training him.