WARMACHINE VS CHISORA!

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Very strange match-making, i could understand it if Chisora had also been knocked out in his last fight but being subjective it's hard to make a case for Larry beyond a punchers chance and even that's a stretch.

I'd like to be proved wrong as Larry comes across as a real stand-up guy.
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Karl Jade wrote:
mickey1975 wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:I'd give Larry an outside chance against Price, but not Chisora. Chisora's got an excellent chin.
Very silly comment. He could not get near Prices chin and would be hit ten times harder than Big John him very quickly.
I said 'outside chance'. What more do you want? Do you want me to go in details and give odds?

Against Chisora there's simply no chance. His chin is too good.
And how do you know Del Boys chin is too good? Fury is not a big puncher, mate.
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kingfinn wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:I didn't said Harrison 'never trains for a fight'. I said he doesn't train to the standard of a professional boxer. He hasn't sparred for a year now but wants to make a 'comeback' in 2012, which is absolutely typical of the man, sadly.

You can't compare Chisora - Larry with Murray - Mitchell. One is an evenly matched fight, for starters, much as I respect Larry and would kinda like to see him win.

Murray v mitchell when it was first proposed was supposed to be a one sided affair - it wasnt until Murray looked crap in his next fight people though he had been over rated and that mitchell may out think him. It was also after that fight that mitchell then decided to accept the fight.
It could work the other way though. After Mitchell put on a masterclass against Prescott - he would have been the betting favourite against Murray. It was never supposed to be a one sided affair. The only reason Mitchell was the outsider was cause of Katsidis, the year of inactivity and the supposed legal troubles. Murray, in the interim was looking decidely like he found his level, but at least was being active.

When they were both at their "peaks" (not saying both are past it now, but I hope you know what I mean - when both were going through some good form) Murray beating the likes of Thaxton well, Mitchell beating Prescott - Mitchell was the favoured.
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kingfinn wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:Larry isn't so much an 'underdog' as a virtual novice up against arguably Britain's most capable HW.
The point is - you said i had made a rediculous statement when it is quite clearly FW's standard stye of matchmaking. Larry and mitchell both lost fights they were expected to win - warren then offers them both shots against the number 1's at that division in his stable. Its a sink or swim situation again. And Chisora is no murray either he's a 14 fight novice as we kept saying when he was supposed to be fighting Wlad. Larrys had 10 fights - theres not that much in it experience wise.
Sorry Kingfinn, disagree.... Mitchell was a proven EBU (at least) level fighter for a number of years. He lost a fight that he was favoured to win, yes.... but he lost to a world class fighter, a fighter who has been world class for years - that is testiment to Mitchell's ability.

Murray, I am sorry to say, is a step behind Katsidis - not proven in world class.... So at least Mitchell was fighting at a level lower than where he lost too... Larry isn't.
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It has to be Chisora. Larry is hard punching and big; but so crude...........
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stujones wrote:
kingfinn wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:Larry isn't so much an 'underdog' as a virtual novice up against arguably Britain's most capable HW.
The point is - you said i had made a rediculous statement when it is quite clearly FW's standard stye of matchmaking. Larry and mitchell both lost fights they were expected to win - warren then offers them both shots against the number 1's at that division in his stable. Its a sink or swim situation again. And Chisora is no murray either he's a 14 fight novice as we kept saying when he was supposed to be fighting Wlad. Larrys had 10 fights - theres not that much in it experience wise.
Sorry Kingfinn, disagree.... Mitchell was a proven EBU (at least) level fighter for a number of years. He lost a fight that he was favoured to win, yes.... but he lost to a world class fighter, a fighter who has been world class for years - that is testiment to Mitchell's ability.

Murray, I am sorry to say, is a step behind Katsidis - not proven in world class.... So at least Mitchell was fighting at a level lower than where he lost too... Larry isn't.
Yeah i see your point but Chisora isnt world class, and Murray was supposedly world class. I still think its FW's style a matchmaking, if you loose in a fight you were expected to win he'll give you another shot but it will be against someone tough who he expects you to loose to in the hope you prove him wrong, unless he still thinks your career is worth alot of money and then you get barrera.

I mean lets face it he's putting murray straight in with Rios. Great bit of matchmaking, but its low risk for FW he either has a slim chance of gaining a world champion or makes his investment back from a world title fight then ditches murray when he loses.
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kingfinn wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:I'd give Larry an outside chance against Price, but not Chisora. Chisora's got an excellent chin.
The only boxer ive ever seen take a huge hit and think that man is invincible is Vitali. Everyone else one punch away from being labled chinny or finished on the forums.

Also silly post :lol:

Havent seen McCall ever then????

he ate huuuuge shots whilst having a schitzo attack and wasn't even dazed!!!
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funtime wrote:
kingfinn wrote:
Karl Jade wrote:I'd give Larry an outside chance against Price, but not Chisora. Chisora's got an excellent chin.
The only boxer ive ever seen take a huge hit and think that man is invincible is Vitali. Everyone else one punch away from being labled chinny or finished on the forums.

Also silly post :lol:

Havent seen McCall ever then????

he ate huuuuge shots whilst having a schitzo attack and wasn't even dazed!!!
Yeah but mccall also cried in the ring lol
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chisora is far to seasoned for larry but if he is lazy & aint at the races he could come unstuck from early rushes.

larry needs to re build ideally. i just see him turning out the same as pele reid, getting exposed as a novice.
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chisora ko5
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Ive heard this fight is off
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Yep. It's off.

The big man is ill.
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Larry "War Machine" Olubamiwo pulled out. :(

It will be Chisora vs. TBA.
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Karl Jade wrote:Yep. It's off.

The big man is ill.
Major letdown especially as Larry has been waiting for another fight for months now. Does anyone know what kind of Illness it is? seems a bit strange to get ill a few days before a fight as usually your on lockdown and tapering off.
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I have had diarrhoea since saturday which has weakened me severely and hasn't gone away and have been told by the doctor that a virus has caused it.
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warmachine wrote:I have had diarrhoea since saturday which has weakened me severely and hasn't gone away and have been told by the doctor that a virus has caused it.
Thanks for info, if you weren't 100% then no point taking the fight especially against the toughest opponent of your career. Hopefully you'll be over your virus very soon and maybe even get back in the ring before the years end.
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diarrhea??

isnt that what everyone uses when they were looking for time off or didnt want to do somthing?
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gazza8 wrote:diarrhea??

isnt that what everyone uses when they were looking for time off or didnt want to do somthing?
Yeah, but throwing a sicky from work after a heavy night and getting punched in the face by a 17 stone boxer are two different things. You need to be 100%.
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gazza8 wrote:diarrhea??

isnt that what everyone uses when they were looking for time off or didnt want to do somthing?
So you think he didn't want to fight Chisora?
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gazza8 wrote:diarrhea??

isnt that what everyone uses when they were looking for time off or didnt want to do somthing?
Larry would have no reason to sign for the fight and then pull out. It's likely to be legitimate.
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gazza8 wrote:diarrhea??

isnt that what everyone uses when they were looking for time off or didnt want to do somthing?
Larrys a standup guy
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Is McDermott free?
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Perez?
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Post by maverick23 »

Any word on who Chisora will be fighting? I hope it's someone semi decent at least.

Matt Skelton? He was in training to fight Rogan before he pulled out so might be in decent shape.

It's a pity Larry pulled out as I thought the fight would be entertaining.
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Cardiff-Lad1 wrote:
JDC wrote:
gazza8 wrote:diarrhea??

isnt that what everyone uses when they were looking for time off or didnt want to do somthing?
Larrys a standup guy
Sounds like he's been sitting down a lot lately though.... :OhYes:

On a serious note though, this was such an important fight in Larrys career that it would have been crazy going in without being 110% against Chisora.

If he misses out on a rescheduled match up with Del then i'd love to see Larry in a HW Prizefighter! :TU:
Its not a fight to take lightly so if not 100% its pointless getting in the ring, if anything it annoys me when fighter get in the ring in ill health then dont peform not unlike the last burns fight. Its bad for boxing. Larrys power in prize fighter would be great who ever mentioned that.
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