rhino222 wrote:i have just heard that audley is trying to muscle in on the act, he is saying he is ready to fight haye again after chisora has shot and burnt him!.....
strangely, haye had gone to germany trying to get another 'shot'..... and del boy has promised him one!!!......
Audley vs Chisora actually makes a lot of sense.
I bet Audley is watching this thinking he might have another pay day coming.
He would probably beat Chisora
haye is a very bad fight for Audley as we have already seen - but chisora is a good fight in terms of risk to reward. He would be expected to lose by the worldwide boxing community so can just grab another headline and big payday by making the fight and if he loses noone will care, if he actually won he would be a valid klit opponent and have won a hell of a lot of respect.
I would give harrison a fair chance against chisora infact i would put money on him, the odds would be good too. wont happen though.
clopixolacuphase wrote:
You lot never read 'Watch my Back'?
the legendary mr thompson
Sorry to go off at a tangent, but a great book and a very interesting man. Hillfields is definitely a rough old joint. Years ago i used to train at a school there under Jackson White (Tae-kwon do) and also did Jackson's classes at Dev Barrett's kickboxing gym next to the bus station. You brought back some good memories
have we spoke on this point before? i think i remember you saying.
broomy7s wrote:That is disgusting, they've both let this country down. Apparently it was a plastic bottle that was in Haye's hand as he swung. On another note I agree with Adam Booth there Bonte is a bad tit.
You can clearly see haye holding a glass bottle in the video
broomy7s wrote:That is disgusting, they've both let this country down. Apparently it was a plastic bottle that was in Haye's hand as he swung. On another note I agree with Adam Booth there Bonte is a bad tit.
Why is Bonte a tit?
Just don't like how he comes across, on ringside when the Haye fight was being discussed and last night the way he was speaking.
Sorry to go off at a tangent, but a great book and a very interesting man. Hillfields is definitely a rough old joint. Years ago i used to train at a school there under Jackson White (Tae-kwon do) and also did Jackson's classes at Dev Barrett's kickboxing gym next to the bus station. You brought back some good memories
have we spoke on this point before? i think i remember you saying.
I went and did some training in Coventry with John 'Awesome' Anderson, Thompson's mentor in the book. In Bell Green! Menacing looking bloke.
Sorry to go off at a tangent, but a great book and a very interesting man. Hillfields is definitely a rough old joint. Years ago i used to train at a school there under Jackson White (Tae-kwon do) and also did Jackson's classes at Dev Barrett's kickboxing gym next to the bus station. You brought back some good memories
have we spoke on this point before? i think i remember you saying.
We probably have to be fair mate, it does ring a distant bell! When/how did you get into MMA - I've gone down a similar path but only in the past year and wished I'd 'discovered' it years ago...
This was absolute mayhem, you could hardly tell what Haye and Chisora were saying to each other. Chisora stated that Haye glassed him, where as pictures show that Haye punched Chisora whilst holding a bottle. Haye was dragged away and then Chisora started saying he was going to kill Haye. Then Adam Booth appeared saying he wanted to know who had "glassed" him and had blood running down his face. I hope that Haye and Chisora fight and Haye knocks the crap out of Chisora !!
Vitali's manager really iritates me and felt like i wanted to punch him out Chisora is heading for a huge fine and a possible ban and Haye could also be in trouble aswell. Chisora has so much mouth for an absolute nobody, it's a pity he can't back his antics up in the ring. I am really beginning to dislike this guy. The security at this place was horrendous, but i suppose they didn't bank on the pyschotic Chisora doing what he has done.
I dont see what they can do to Haye because he doesnt have a license anymore so all that can happen to him is action taken by the German coppers. Chisora deserves a fine but a ban would be pointless cos he is going to be out for a while anyway. Haye should have let delboy have his moment, I dont blame him for hitting Delboy. He didnt glass him at all, he hit him with a bottle in his hand. Would have done more harm to him than Delboy. Bashing up Don Charles was abit out of order. I dont have a problem with what Delboy did until he started making all of those threats saying he is going to shoot him and burn him. It werent the cleverest comment to make seeing as his manager/promoter had been shot in the past. I thought it was abit hypocritical in the build up that people were saying Delboy is an enigma and all that due to his actions in and act of the ring, Haye's comment about gang rape was out of order but atleast he aint been done for assaulting a women, people seemed to forget that. Booth did nothing wrong as far I could see, he was just trying to split up the fighters and got whacked for his trouble, the same as Don Charles. It makes the Groves/Anderson bill very interesting cos it is inevitable that Haye and Chisora will both be there so I can see this type of thing happening again. That Bert Boente or whatever his name is a 1st class prick who stirs the pot but gets out of the way when the shit hits the fan just like allegedly.
smoggy7188 wrote:I dont see what they can do to Haye because he doesnt have a license anymore so all that can happen to him is action taken by the German coppers. Chisora deserves a fine but a ban would be pointless cos he is going to be out for a while anyway. Haye should have let delboy have his moment, I dont blame him for hitting Delboy. He didnt glass him at all, he hit him with a bottle in his hand. Would have done more harm to him than Delboy. Bashing up Don Charles was abit out of order. I dont have a problem with what Delboy did until he started making all of those threats saying he is going to shoot him and burn him. It werent the cleverest comment to make seeing as his manager/promoter had been shot in the past. I thought it was abit hypocritical in the build up that people were saying Delboy is an enigma and all that due to his actions in and act of the ring, Haye's comment about gang rape was out of order but atleast he aint been done for assaulting a women, people seemed to forget that. Booth did nothing wrong as far I could see, he was just trying to split up the fighters and got whacked for his trouble, the same as Don Charles. It makes the Groves/Anderson bill very interesting cos it is inevitable that Haye and Chisora will both be there so I can see this type of thing happening again. That Bert Boente or whatever his name is a 1st class prick who stirs the pot but gets out of the way when the shit hits the fan just like allegedly.
I think Chisora is a nasty character and unpredictable and i would love Haye to knock him spark out. Vitali's manager Boente is a really annoying character. He said to Haye " But you don't have a title to bring......" but neither did Chisora !! Out of everyone i would like to see Boente knocked out the most
Deserter wrote:
Sorry to go off at a tangent, but a great book and a very interesting man. Hillfields is definitely a rough old joint. Years ago i used to train at a school there under Jackson White (Tae-kwon do) and also did Jackson's classes at Dev Barrett's kickboxing gym next to the bus station. You brought back some good memories
have we spoke on this point before? i think i remember you saying.
We probably have to be fair mate, it does ring a distant bell! When/how did you get into MMA - I've gone down a similar path but only in the past year and wished I'd 'discovered' it years ago...
im 30 now but dabbled in it since i was about 8 im crap at football so i got into other sports. Started with judo for 5 years then switched got a brown in karate, used to move around alot so started boxing for a couple of years on account of my father being in the RAF, then started muay thai at uni, my house mate was a karate instructor in his in the evening so carried on with that at the same time, then a mate of a mate opened a MMA gym in Cov so joined for a while and mixed it all together (incidentally the gym is closed now but it featured on danny dyers deadliest men, the day me and my mate couldnt get off work to go ). Turns out karate is useless but the judo, thai boxing/boxing, mixed with wrestling and jujitsu is pretty damn effective. Wish MMA was big when i was younger or i had started with boxing and stuck to it. A friend of mine used to kick box for great britain and we go to the gym together, we keep talking about getting into fighting shape again but i think im too old for it now.
rhino222 wrote:i have just heard that audley is trying to muscle in on the act, he is saying he is ready to fight haye again after chisora has shot and burnt him!.....
strangely, haye had gone to germany trying to get another 'shot'..... and del boy has promised him one!!!......
Audley vs Chisora actually makes a lot of sense.
I bet Audley is watching this thinking he might have another pay day coming.
He would probably beat Chisora
haye is a very bad fight for Audley as we have already seen - but chisora is a good fight in terms of risk to reward. He would be expected to lose by the worldwide boxing community so can just grab another headline and big payday by making the fight and if he loses noone will care, if he actually won he would be a valid klit opponent and have won a hell of a lot of respect.
I would give harrison a fair chance against chisora infact i would put money on him, the odds would be good too. wont happen though.
Assuming Chisora actually trained for the fight, I don't know why anyone would give Audley a cat in hells chance.
Khaosai-Galaxy wrote:
Audley vs Chisora actually makes a lot of sense.
I bet Audley is watching this thinking he might have another pay day coming.
He would probably beat Chisora
haye is a very bad fight for Audley as we have already seen - but chisora is a good fight in terms of risk to reward. He would be expected to lose by the worldwide boxing community so can just grab another headline and big payday by making the fight and if he loses noone will care, if he actually won he would be a valid klit opponent and have won a hell of a lot of respect.
I would give harrison a fair chance against chisora infact i would put money on him, the odds would be good too. wont happen though.
Assuming Chisora actually trained for the fight, I don't know why anyone would give Audley a cat in hells chance.
Audley has geniune world class power, and has the odd flash of brilliance, you cant write him off against a light puncher imo.
kingfinn wrote:
haye is a very bad fight for Audley as we have already seen - but chisora is a good fight in terms of risk to reward. He would be expected to lose by the worldwide boxing community so can just grab another headline and big payday by making the fight and if he loses noone will care, if he actually won he would be a valid klit opponent and have won a hell of a lot of respect.
I would give harrison a fair chance against chisora infact i would put money on him, the odds would be good too. wont happen though.
Assuming Chisora actually trained for the fight, I don't know why anyone would give Audley a cat in hells chance.
Audley has geniune world class power, and has the odd flash of brilliance, you cant write him off against a light puncher imo.
Not to forget a quality southpaw jab which a novice boxer would need to be wary of.
Chisora will have learned a load from last nights fight about bringing the attack to a taller guy and forcing an opponent onto the back foot.
David Haye pretty much wiped all Chisoras crew single handily and nearly de-capitated Chisora with the best punch thrown all night that delboy thought was a piece of glass landing on him.
Kilburn wrote:
Assuming Chisora actually trained for the fight, I don't know why anyone would give Audley a cat in hells chance.
Audley has geniune world class power, and has the odd flash of brilliance, you cant write him off against a light puncher imo.
Not to forget a quality southpaw jab which a novice boxer would need to be wary of.
Chisora will have learned a load from last nights fight about bringing the attack to a taller guy and forcing an opponent onto the back foot.
Chisora would walk right through him with little fuss IMO. Not because Chisora is great, but because Audley is old, gunshy and never had any work rate to begin with. Sure put him in with the Ali Adams of this world and he'll look handy.
exittored wrote:David Haye pretty much wiped all Chisoras crew single handily and nearly de-capitated Chisora with the best punch thrown all night that delboy thought was a piece of glass landing on him.
Haye is one tough MF and would easily KO Chisora.
Cut and paste, eh?
I'm starting to come around to agreeing with you. Haye took out the entourage single handedly. That's kind of badass. I really would like some more reasons to like David Haye again.
The HAYE v VITALI goading is what goes on at press conferences to set up fights and has done for years and years. Vitali has always said he wants to fight haye and visa-versa so its all part of the build up - no big deal with that.
Wasnt HAYE there commentating on allegedly? an Allegedly ran business??? Can't have it both ways Fwank you baffoon. Whys he asking why Haye was in Germany when he was on the allegedly presentation team?
CHISORA stated he was going to give Haye TWO SLAPS. He then gets up out of of his chair to get to Haye....not the other way around.... He even tells security to move out of the way to prevent a barrier between them.
This is someone whos already slapped an opponent at a weigh in and spat water in the face of Wlad. Hes plenty of form for behaving like a prat and wasn't ever going to beat Haye in a war of words and he'd have known that.
Haye already had this bottle in his hand. If he'd have put it down upon Chisoras approach then that would have signalled that he was wanting to scrap. Remember Chisora walked towards Haye.
Haye only threw a pre-empive punch once Chisora went right up into his personal space. Chisora made no effort to engage in conversation - the microphone was not at his lips. We all know what Chisora was about to do.
Haye totally justified is the punch and also giving Chisoras trainer a punch too when he was attacked.
Chisora you tried to be the big man and got exactly what you deserved for how you conduct yourself.
And Mr Warren or whatever we call him is a joke if he expects us to buy his opinion on events at all.
I cannot see how anyone can see the situation any differently. And for those who call Haye a pussy, shite, and the like......Dont be so f*cking stupid and do your homework. The Wlad fight he got taken apart by a much much bigger man with a trademark world class jab with a huge reach advantage. Not the first and not the last.
davidas wrote:The HAYE v VITALI goading is what goes on at press conferences to set up fights and has done for years and years. Vitali has always said he wants to fight haye and visa-versa so its all part of the build up - no big deal with that.
Wasnt HAYE there commentating on Allegedly channel? an Allegedly ran business??? Can't have it both ways Fwank you baffoon. Whys he asking why Haye was in Germany when he was on the Allegedly channel presentation team?
CHISORA stated he was going to give Haye TWO SLAPS. He then gets up out of of his chair to get to Haye....not the other way around.... He even tells security to move out of the way to prevent a barrier between them.
This is someone whos already slapped an opponent at a weigh in and spat water in the face of Wlad. Hes plenty of form for behaving like a prat and wasn't ever going to beat Haye in a war of words and he'd have known that.
Haye already had this bottle in his hand. If he'd have put it down upon Chisoras approach then that would have signalled that he was wanting to scrap. Remember Chisora walked towards Haye.
Haye only threw a pre-empive punch once Chisora went right up into his personal space. Chisora made no effort to engage in conversation - the microphone was not at his lips. We all know what Chisora was about to do.
Haye totally justified is the punch and also giving Chisoras trainer a punch too when he was attacked.
Chisora you tried to be the big man and got exactly what you deserved for how you conduct yourself.
And Mr Warren or whatever we call him is a joke if he expects us to buy his opinion on events at all.
I cannot see how anyone can see the situation any differently. And for those who call Haye a pussy, shite, and the like......Dont be so f*cking stupid and do your homework. The Wlad fight he got taken apart by a much much bigger man with a trademark world class jab with a huge reach advantage. Not the first and not the last.
Brilliant post...pretty much nails everything on the head.
Only mistake Haye made was smashing the tripod on his own trainers head and not Chisoras.
josh fg wrote:Carl Froch places the blame on Chisora's head, although he is a good mate of David Haye's so not entirely surprising. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/17090528
Only one way to sort this out...
Chisora is heading for a huge fine and a possible ban and Haye could also be in trouble aswell. Chisora has so much mouth for an absolute nobody, it's a pity he can't back his antics up in the ring. I am really beginning to dislike this guy. The security at this place was horrendous, but i suppose they didn't bank on the pyschotic Chisora doing what he has done.
). Turns out karate is useless but the judo, thai boxing/boxing, mixed with wrestling and jujitsu is pretty damn effective. Wish MMA was big when i was younger or i had started with boxing and stuck to it. A friend of mine used to kick box for great britain and we go to the gym together, we keep talking about getting into fighting shape again but i think im too old for it now.