They were on the steps waving the towels and Caiz was facing them so he knew what they were doingBaby Face Finster wrote:How did the corner stop if they ran in after Caiz stopped it?Diamond WEAPON wrote:The corner stopped it. Calm the fvck downBaby Face Finster wrote:FVCK YOU RAUL CAIZ YOU SON OF A DOG FVCKING WHORE!
Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
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Diamond WEAPON
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Agreed. Going in, this absolutely was a legitimate fight. Never thought Donaire would dominate like that.Datsue wrote:You're high. Donaire just outclassed the guy with the best on-paper resume in the division.victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
Nishioka bricked it but that was fuckin' impressive.
Hope that ends all questions as to his power at this weight. Christ.
Hope he fights either Rigo or the Mares/Moreno winner, though the latter probably won't happen because of the TR/GBP war.
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chucktaylor
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
There was about a round and a half of a good fight there. I have no problem with the match being made, even in hindsight, being that they were the top fighters in the division. Donaire was just too good to allow for a more entertaining fight (or Nishioka wasn't good enough, whatever you prefer).
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victor-romeo
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
put him in with RiogondeauxBobbyptsd wrote:You haven't really paid that much attention to Donaire's career, have you?victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
I wouldn't say that a guy who's faced Darchinian, Montiel, Narvaez, Vazquez jr., Mathebula and now Nishioka, along with a handful of other solid contenders, going through 4 weight classes, has had the benefit of "mismatches because of connections."
He's just damn good.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Tell that to Guillermo.victor-romeo wrote:put him in with RiogondeauxBobbyptsd wrote:You haven't really paid that much attention to Donaire's career, have you?victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
I wouldn't say that a guy who's faced Darchinian, Montiel, Narvaez, Vazquez jr., Mathebula and now Nishioka, along with a handful of other solid contenders, going through 4 weight classes, has had the benefit of "mismatches because of connections."
He's just damn good.
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Deadendgeneration
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Impressed by Donaire tonight. Did enough to take the rounds comfortably enough despite having to lead, and got the stoppage once Nishioka actually opened up a bit.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Diamond WEAPON wrote:You should blame Nishioka not Arum. The Nishioka-Marquez fight was a barnburnervictor-romeo wrote:completely I blame Bob Arum for this sleeper , but with the Rios fight I don't give a darn,, the two fights on this card tonight were like night and day..Datsue wrote:Nishioka outclassed.
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
donaire want no part of rigo, he just said it
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Diamond WEAPON
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Donaire just said he wants any of Mares or Moreno or he'll move uo if they can't make the fight and he would prefer Rigondeaux to deepen his resume, which I can see why because if he KO'd Rigo everyone would say "oh Rigondeaux was just an amateur" or some crazy shit
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Diamond WEAPON
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Rigondeaux should fight Vazquez Jr. One way to get a cash cow is to hammer his old rivalsbig train express wrote:donaire want no part of rigo, he just said it
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Never expected Nishioka to do much of anything despite his hype. Japanese fighters have zero defense when they come forward on offense, zero.
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
It doesn't matter if they are on the steps, the ref can simply ignore them. They need to enter the ring for the ref to end the fight and Caiz ended the fight before that happened.Diamond WEAPON wrote: They were on the steps waving the towels and Caiz was facing them so he knew what they were doing
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victor-romeo
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
exactly..big train express wrote:donaire want no part of rigo, he just said it
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
How could a Donaire/Mares fight be made (even if Mares beats Moreno) given the TR/GBP issue?Diamond WEAPON wrote:Rigondeaux should fight Vazquez Jr. One way to get a cash cow is to hammer his old rivalsbig train express wrote:donaire want no part of rigo, he just said it
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Ahh the "I knew this would happen" crowd, which always comes out right after the fight, oddly.Blodhemn wrote:Never expected Nishioka to do much of anything despite his hype. Japanese fighters have zero defense when they come forward on offense, zero.
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victor-romeo
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
This guy has a better resume than mares?Datsue wrote:You're high. Donaire just outclassed the guy with the best on-paper resume in the division.victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
Nishioka bricked it but that was fuckin' impressive.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Yesvictor-romeo wrote:This guy has a better resume than mares?Datsue wrote:You're high. Donaire just outclassed the guy with the best on-paper resume in the division.victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
Nishioka bricked it but that was fuckin' impressive.
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victor-romeo
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
It seems the last 4 times i have seen him fight on HBO he hasn't fought a fighter with punching power to keep him honest..Bobbyptsd wrote:You haven't really paid that much attention to Donaire's career, have you?victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
I wouldn't say that a guy who's faced Darchinian, Montiel, Narvaez, Vazquez jr., Mathebula and now Nishioka, along with a handful of other solid contenders, going through 4 weight classes, has had the benefit of "mismatches because of connections."
He's just damn good.
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Datsue
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
In the superbantamweight division?victor-romeo wrote:This guy has a better resume than mares?Datsue wrote:You're high. Donaire just outclassed the guy with the best on-paper resume in the division.victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
Nishioka bricked it but that was fuckin' impressive.
Every day of the week, & twice on Sundays.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Nonito is too damn good. I don't accept the BS that he is hype. Skill, speed, power, balance, variety, chin, the guy has fantastic ingredients to be a genuine, great fighter.
Another solid win against, sadly one of my favourite fighters but meh, got to accept Donaire is just too talented for most.
Another solid win against, sadly one of my favourite fighters but meh, got to accept Donaire is just too talented for most.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
I called it from day 1. Predicted Donaire KO in the PTBF thread as well.Bobbyptsd wrote:Ahh the "I knew this would happen" crowd, which always comes out right after the fight, oddly.Blodhemn wrote:Never expected Nishioka to do much of anything despite his hype. Japanese fighters have zero defense when they come forward on offense, zero.
Thanks for trying but you fail.
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
at 122, definitely.victor-romeo wrote:This guy has a better resume than mares?Datsue wrote:You're high. Donaire just outclassed the guy with the best on-paper resume in the division.victor-romeo wrote:i glanced away and they stopped the fight...how does this guy donaire keep getting prime time fighting these mismatches..?? He must have connections..
Nishioka bricked it but that was fuckin' impressive.
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Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Mares has the better P4P resume, especially in the last couple years, but it's close when you take everything into account.
Anyway Donaire-Mares could be made as the Lara-Matirosyan fight was and is a GBP-TR clash but it probably won't happen because both are big enough cash cows for their groups.
If anything the loser of Mares-Moreno has a better shot at fighting Donaire and if not then Rigondeaux due to a loss causing loss of value in them for GBP
Anyway Donaire-Mares could be made as the Lara-Matirosyan fight was and is a GBP-TR clash but it probably won't happen because both are big enough cash cows for their groups.
If anything the loser of Mares-Moreno has a better shot at fighting Donaire and if not then Rigondeaux due to a loss causing loss of value in them for GBP
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
But isn't Lara/Vanes a title eliminator mandated by one of the orgs? Donaire/the Mares/Moreno winner would be a unification. It's not like either would be the other's mandatory challenger, thus forcing the fight to happen.Diamond WEAPON wrote:Mares has the better P4P resume, especially in the last couple years, but it's close when you take everything into account.
Anyway Donaire-Mares could be made as the Lara-Matirosyan fight was and is a GBP-TR clash but it probably won't happen because both are big enough cash cows for their groups.
If anything the loser of Mares-Moreno has a better shot at fighting Donaire and if not then Rigondeaux due to a loss causing loss of value in them for GBP
Re: Donaire/Nishioka & Alvarado/Rios RBR.
Mares definetly has a better resume. Who cares if Nishioka has more fights at the weight by default, the weights are close enough to the same neighborhood that it shouldn't much matter.