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GreenLightning wrote: Billy, Broner is taking on all-comers, demolishing them, making it look easy, winning major titles, and is willing to get into the ring with Ricky in February.

jimcook wrote:

Fat Git wrote:

Wales wrote:What you have nowadays are multiple champions and you have different levels which is daft
if you are calling yourself 'world champion' but that is the way it is. Burns is a good fighter but
he is a level below the cream of the division. Now - in this business - he can keep earning in the
UK, earning 100 grand a defence - a gift that keeps on giving - or he can go - like some Polish
cavalryman on a horse charging into a tank in the heat of battle - to America. lose his title and
then come back to what? It is a long way down. If he can defend against Walsh and then
take on Scott Harrison and then million dollar Crolla then good luck to him! None of us
are paying his bills.

Is it a long way down? Do you not think (worse case) he'll come back, profile raised and earn the same as what he would have last decemer for a re-building fight against the likes of Walsh?!

Best case of course he wins, bursts what many see as a hyped bubble, and then is THE man.

It is a massive long way down, I would compare him to Steve Robinson except Steve Robinson sold out arenas in Cardiff and had proper national exposure. One bad, one sided beating turned him into a gatekeeper and the same would happen to Burns - boxing doesn't seem to allow a fighter to 'come back' if you get destroyed, if he loses a close one or he actually wins then yes - that changes it all but the chances of that happening are slim.

The thing is, if you look at it as biziness (as the Russians would say) fighting Broner for 400000 dollars is very bad business. Burns is doing OK defending against domestic opposition like Liam Walsh and other fighters he knows he can beat and getting decent money - once he loses that though he is never getting it back. As for Broner and his deficiencies - Burns is not the man to expose them.

The Burns cheerleading squad reminds me of the Haye vs Hobson rigmarole of years yonder. Hindsight now dictates Hobson would have been lucky to last a round. Burns is nowhere near competing with Broner - doesn't matter what Billy Nelson says about it - he's going to, that is his job, we don't have to swallow it though because he comes on here.

so what about khan then? hes been destroyed so many times, yet people on here still think hes gonna mop up the LWWs?

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.

Counter-puncher wrote:I'm still chuckling at that 'all-comers' phrase.

when they coined the phrase 'murderer's row', I don't think that was quite what they had in mind.

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.

Wales wrote:

Fat Git wrote:What you have nowadays are multiple champions and you have different levels which is daft
if you are calling yourself 'world champion' but that is the way it is. Burns is a good fighter but
he is a level below the cream of the division. Now - in this business - he can keep earning in the
UK, earning 100 grand a defence - a gift that keeps on giving - or he can go - like some Polish
cavalryman on a horse charging into a tank in the heat of battle - to America. lose his title and
then come back to what? It is a long way down. If he can defend against Walsh and then
take on Scott Harrison and then million dollar Crolla then good luck to him! None of us
are paying his bills.

Is it a long way down? Do you not think (worse case) he'll come back, profile raised and earn the same as what he would have last decemer for a re-building fight against the likes of Walsh?!

Best case of course he wins, bursts what many see as a hyped bubble, and then is THE man.

palooka wrote:There's no guarantees in this sport and people get busted up bad; he could get in with some and get hurt and not be able to box again. This isn't an easy sport.

JLP wrote:

palooka wrote:There's no guarantees in this sport and people get busted up bad; he could get in with some and get hurt and not be able to box again. This isn't an easy sport.

Which is precisely why if you get offered $400K for a fight you've got to have a very good reason not to take it. Chances like that don't come round as often as people might think.

kevo wrote:

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.

To be fair, he doesn't have a title, so he's got to take these opportunities.

billy nelson wrote:

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.

We're not causing any fuss it's just not going to take place in Feb

ALI wrote:

billy nelson wrote:

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.

We're not causing any fuss it's just not going to take place in Feb

Then you run a big risk that it never takes place all (us UK fans know very well how these situations play out, especially when a Warren fighters involved).

Lets hope Broner sticks around long enough to offer Burns a 3rd crack at facing him.

kevo wrote:

Wales wrote:We should all be giving credit to Martin Murray by the way. Travelling to Argentina to fight the fighter who is regarded by many as p4p #2 and not making half the effing fuss team burns are.