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Il Duce wrote:Rumble in the Jungle, had a bad odor in the air.........

And it was not.........'Reefer'.

That is a Fact

ThatOne wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Muhammad Ali vs. Deep Purple

At the Senayan Stadium,

'Deep Purple' by a "Knockout" {KO 2}, as the Hard Rock Band pulls in 150,000 Indonesians on December 4, 1975....

Muhammad Ali, the most famous person in the World,,,,,,,,,,,,'I Think Not'

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A Rock concert is a far more Festive occasion than a Prize fight. Particularly a one-sided one.

I'd rather see Deep Purple live in their heyday than Ali vs Lubbers as well.

Woodstock or Rumble In The Jungle. I'd ask Il Bugiardo but I know he would say Grand Ole Opry.

Deep Purple has a lot of better songs than that one in my opinion.
-gilgamesh

ThatOne wrote:

Deep Purple has a lot of better songs than that one in my opinion.
-gilgamesh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xm4os2ugaA

Il Duce wrote:Deep Purple

Ritchie Blackmore, I see him all the time in Stamford, Connecticut and Nesconset, L.I., New York.

A smaller guy than he appears on stage too. Nice guy. Hates his ex-Wife as well. He told me.

Plays all those 'Medieval Art Festivals' in Tuxedo, New York during the Summer.

"Highway Star" and 'My Woman From Tokyo", personal favorites.

Il Duce wrote:Rudi Lubbers

"I gave Muhammad Ali the 'blueprint' on how to beat George Foreman."

"Lean and roll, slide and ride."

Il Duce wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Google search turned up

No results found for Newspaper Articles In 'Algemeen Daglsad' {Rotterdam, South Holland} May 1974, June 1974, August 1974 and November 1974.

You won't find them on Google.

You have to have the actual {dated} Newspapers, which I have.

The only time Rudi was 'shaken' was in Round 10, but he came right back after Muhammad
and landed a great right-hand to the left side of his face.

The Reg Gutteridge 'corner interview' was blown out of proportion, and Muhammad only had a few
words with the Ringside Journalist between a Few Rounds.

Il Duce wrote:I've had them for years, when I was doing research on this bout and Rudi Lubbers.

From the Articles,

* Muhammad Ali predicted a 'Knockout' in Round 5

* Rudi Lubbers though listed at 6' 0", was closer to 5' 10 1/2"

* His weight was listed at 194 lbs., but Rudi had to bulk up on Weight-Lifting and Protein Shakes
to keep his weight above 190 lbs., during Training Camp.

* Rudi said Muhammad was much easier to hit than he thought, despite having an 8" Reach disadvantage.

* The Ring at only 16' 6", was chosen by the Ali Camp.

* Muhammad Ali only talked to Reg Gutteridge 'twice' during fight, and only for a few words each time.

* Reg Gutteridge was one of only a handful of Newsman there that Night.

* The Indonesian Fans cheered for Rudi, not Muhammad Ali.

* Muhammad Ali was breathing very hard at the end of Round 10, and was frustrated that he couldn't drop Rudi.

Il Duce wrote:Rudi Lubbers,

Did not lose every Round.

The 'first' real good Round that Muhammad Ali had was Round 7..........

I had it 9-1-2 in Rounds, but Rudi was 'competitive', for what he brought to the table.

Don't you think.........

Il Duce wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Google search turned up

No results found for Newspaper Articles In 'Algemeen Daglsad' {Rotterdam, South Holland} May 1974, June 1974, August 1974 and November 1974.

You won't find them on Google.

You have to have the actual {dated} Newspapers, which I have.

The only time Rudi was 'shaken' was in Round 10, but he came right back after Muhammad
and landed a great right-hand to the left side of his face.

The Reg Gutteridge 'corner interview' was blown out of proportion, and Muhammad only had a few
words with the Ringside Journalist between a Few Rounds.

"I have no doubt that Lubbers was one of the better fighters out of Holland in the 1970's."

-gilgamesh"

Il Duce wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Google search turned up

No results found for Newspaper Articles In 'Algemeen Daglsad' {Rotterdam, South Holland} May 1974, June 1974, August 1974 and November 1974.

You won't find them on Google.

You have to have the actual {dated} Newspapers, which I have.

The only time Rudi was 'shaken' was in Round 10, but he came right back after Muhammad
and landed a great right-hand to the left side of his face.

The Reg Gutteridge 'corner interview' was blown out of proportion, and Muhammad only had a few
words with the Ringside Journalist between a Few Rounds.

evrenb wrote:

Il Duce wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:Google search turned up

No results found for Newspaper Articles In 'Algemeen Daglsad' {Rotterdam, South Holland} May 1974, June 1974, August 1974 and November 1974.

You won't find them on Google.

You have to have the actual {dated} Newspapers, which I have.

The only time Rudi was 'shaken' was in Round 10, but he came right back after Muhammad
and landed a great right-hand to the left side of his face.

The Reg Gutteridge 'corner interview' was blown out of proportion, and Muhammad only had a few
words with the Ringside Journalist between a Few Rounds.

I have footage of those between round interviews...im not sure they are on youtube? I will be verifying...Thing is Il Duce your lies get found out so often and you do not address that you have been found out. Just continue with the same old bs pattern...while you keep the forum going because you annoy so many people and they log on to 'go to battle with you' to contest your bs but the tragedy is you have put off some very valuable historians and experts from visiting this site...what a shame.
So what you have is a forum where people give their opinions and unfortunately a forum littered with un truths and lies....hardly a viable source for information but rather a ' childrens chalkboard'. ..

ThatOne wrote:

"I have no doubt that Lubbers was one of the better fighters out of Holland in the 1970's."

-gilgamesh"

That's like saying some fella is the richest man in Zimbabwe.

gilgamesh wrote:

ThatOne wrote:

"I have no doubt that Lubbers was one of the better fighters out of Holland in the 1970's."

-gilgamesh"

That's like saying some fella is the richest man in Zimbabwe.

I know.

I'm just trying to keep it in perspective. Rudi Lubbers is not a bad individual (at least I don't think he is), just because of the crap Duce says about him or claims he said.

I'm not going to let one man's lies about somebody allow me to have an undeserved negative opinion of him. It wouldn't be fair to Mr. Lubbers. Who has done nothing wrong himself and probably wouldn't agree with much of anything Duce has said either.

"I gave Muhammad Ali the 'blueprint' on how to beat George Foreman."

"Lean and roll, slide and ride."

-Rudi Lubbers
The Beast Of Belgium

Il Duce wrote:Rudi Lubbers,,,,,,,,,is 'The Dutch Master'

Jean-Pierre Coopmans.........is 'The Belgian Beast'

Fact,

In July 1975, Joe Bugner said that the only 'two' fighters that hit harder than Rudi Lubbers.

Were,,,,,,,,,,,,,Joe Frazier and Muhammad Ali

Il Duce wrote:Type in,

Rudi Lubbers and Domenico Adinolfi, July 30, 1975

Yep,,,,,,,,,,'Hungarian Joe' said Rudi was #3..........

gilgamesh wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Type in,

Rudi Lubbers and Domenico Adinolfi, July 30, 1975

Yep,,,,,,,,,,'Hungarian Joe' said Rudi was #3..........

Adinolfi knocked out Lubbers in 2 rounds in a bout for the European Light Heavyweight Title.

I think it's safe to say that most all ranked Heavyweights in the 1970's packed a harder punch than Mr. Lubbers.

28-8 with 13 KO's is not a puncher's record. His KO percentage is well under 50%.

People who's KO's percentages are less than 50% are rarely ever considered to be big punchers.

Hell Ali isn't even considered to be a big puncher, he's considered to be a great fighter who could hit hard enough to get the job done, but most all of his contemporaries in the 70's are considered bigger punchers.

ThatOne wrote:

gilgamesh wrote:

Il Duce wrote:Type in,

Rudi Lubbers and Domenico Adinolfi, July 30, 1975

Yep,,,,,,,,,,'Hungarian Joe' said Rudi was #3..........

Adinolfi knocked out Lubbers in 2 rounds in a bout for the European Light Heavyweight Title.

I think it's safe to say that most all ranked Heavyweights in the 1970's packed a harder punch than Mr. Lubbers.

28-8 with 13 KO's is not a puncher's record. His KO percentage is well under 50%.

People who's KO's percentages are less than 50% are rarely ever considered to be big punchers.

Hell Ali isn't even considered to be a big puncher, he's considered to be a great fighter who could hit hard enough to get the job done, but most all of his contemporaries in the 70's are considered bigger punchers.

Ali could bang when he sat on his punches. Watch the Thrilla... He has Joe going backwards three or four steps in the thirteenth and fourteenth rounds. He could also cut a fighter to shreds.

Anyway, like the GOAT's protege says " you got a get a man drunk to roll him."

Il Duce wrote:I'm just following up on Joe Bugner's statement.........

I wouldn't want to get hit by a right-hand punch from Rudi Lubbers either.......