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Keith your a clever poster surely you don't buy into Hayes postponed fights??

hurlock wrote:Keith your a clever poster surely you don't buy into Hayes postponed fights??

I don't think he would cut himself and then have potentially career ending surgery to avoid fighting anyone.

Unless it was so Sylvester Stallone could fight instead and meet up with the French Resistance via the shower room floor?

DavidPayne wrote:Unless it was so Sylvester Stallone could fight instead and meet up with the French Resistance via the shower room floor?

I can still hear that arm breaking.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

hurlock wrote:Keith your a clever poster surely you don't buy into Hayes postponed fights??

I don't think he would cut himself and then have potentially career ending surgery to avoid fighting anyone.

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I can't see him cutting himself either, but the charr incident & wlad pull out were dodgy.

The second pulling out of fury wasn't right, why did he re schedule??

keithmoonhangover wrote:

DavidPayne wrote:Unless it was so Sylvester Stallone could fight instead and meet up with the French Resistance via the shower room floor?

I can still hear that arm breaking.

Poor old Kevin O'Callaghan, he wasn't even a goalie.

hurlock wrote:I can't see him cutting himself either, but the charr incident & wlad pull out were dodgy.

The second pulling out of fury wasn't right, why did he re schedule??

I don't know the details, but I would have thought it would be something along the lines of.

1. Haye gets a cut and injures his shoulder.
2. Postpones the fight.
3. The shoulder is hurting more.
4. Goes to the consultant, who tells him to he needs surgery.
5. Has surgery.
6. Waits to see if it heals.

Klitschko fight cancelled at the same time of the Setanta collapse, looks suspicious.

Charr fight. He may well have been genuinely injured, if not and he cancelled it to fight Fury. Surely the Fury's knew about it.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

hurlock wrote:Keith your a clever poster surely you don't buy into Hayes postponed fights??

I don't think he would cut himself and then have potentially career ending surgery to avoid fighting anyone.

I spoke to Tysons' father in law this morning and he said that in the contracts for the Fury Haye bout there was a clause that Fury could not have a bout before he boxed Haye; Jimmy said that Haye had enough money to sit back and wait it out and the time without bouts would hurt Tysons performance.

palooka wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:

hurlock wrote:Keith your a clever poster surely you don't buy into Hayes postponed fights??

I don't think he would cut himself and then have potentially career ending surgery to avoid fighting anyone.

I spoke to Tysons' father in law this morning and he said that in the contracts for the Fury Haye bout there was a clause that Fury could not have a bout before he boxed Haye; Jimmy said that Haye had enough money to sit back and wait it out and the time without bouts would hurt Tysons performance.

It's normal for that clause to be in a contract mate.

spud.......post about it!!...don't just read it!!

In reality Haye has been in a gym, not a boxing gym, and done some light training. In the pictures he looks a stone or two lighter than his fighting weight.

keithmoonhangover wrote:In reality Haye has been in a gym, not a boxing gym, and done some light training. In the pictures he looks a stone or two lighter than his fighting weight.

So way inside the cruiser limit like he was when he left the jungle, the weight he couldn't even touch then gained all that muscle mass.
Maybe with all the weight training & increasing his muscle fibres he has done himself up. But he allowed cameras in his gym we've seen him pull his entire body weight up a rope pretty impressively,no way could he do it with this injury

hurlock wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:In reality Haye has been in a gym, not a boxing gym, and done some light training. In the pictures he looks a stone or two lighter than his fighting weight.

So way inside the cruiser limit like he was when he left the jungle, the weight he couldn't even touch then gained all that muscle mass.
Maybe with all the weight training & increasing his muscle fibres he has done himself up. But he allowed cameras in his gym we've seen him pull his entire body weight up a rope pretty impressively,no way could he do it with this injury

He might have had a winch and a hidden rope round his waist, like in pantomime.

Haha allway's a possibility !!
More elusive then David Blane!

hurlock wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:In reality Haye has been in a gym, not a boxing gym, and done some light training. In the pictures he looks a stone or two lighter than his fighting weight.

So way inside the cruiser limit like he was when he left the jungle, the weight he couldn't even touch then gained all that muscle mass.
Maybe with all the weight training & increasing his muscle fibres he has done himself up. But he allowed cameras in his gym we've seen him pull his entire body weight up a rope pretty impressively,no way could he do it with this injury

I've seen one picture, I'm hardly a reliable source of how much weight he's lost. I think you'll find the climbing up a rope was before the injury occurred.

keithmoonhangover wrote:

hurlock wrote:

keithmoonhangover wrote:In reality Haye has been in a gym, not a boxing gym, and done some light training. In the pictures he looks a stone or two lighter than his fighting weight.

So way inside the cruiser limit like he was when he left the jungle, the weight he couldn't even touch then gained all that muscle mass.
Maybe with all the weight training & increasing his muscle fibres he has done himself up. But he allowed cameras in his gym we've seen him pull his entire body weight up a rope pretty impressively,no way could he do it with this injury

I've seen one picture, I'm hardly a reliable source of how much weight he's lost. I think you'll find the climbing up a rope was before the injury occurred.[/quote]

If this argument goes on any longer you'll find me swinging from a rope.

Palooka the injury was apparently a hole in the shoulder which had been in a state a while. I swear people forget haye had a niggle as reported flew all the way to Germany to find out his shoulder problem through a scan before operated on. It wasn't an instant injury that required instant attention.its funny he went straight to Germany without having a scan here? He has stated the scan was first taken in deutch land. Massively iffy to me

hurlock wrote:Palooka the injury was apparently a hole in the shoulder which had been in a state a while. I swear people forget haye had a niggle as reported flew all the way to Germany to find out his shoulder problem through a scan before operated on. It wasn't an instant injury that required instant attention.its funny he went straight to Germany without having a scan here? He has stated the scan was first taken in deutch land. Massively iffy to me

I don't like to see anyone laying in an hospital bed especially asleep I thought who ever took that pic was in bad taste but obviously instructed as he'd of had to post it.somthing don't sit right with me on this subject. The cut was clear & I ain't doubting that training injury

hurlock wrote:Palooka the injury was apparently a hole in the shoulder which had been in a state a while. I swear people forget haye had a niggle as reported flew all the way to Germany to find out his shoulder problem through a scan before operated on. It wasn't an instant injury that required instant attention.its funny he went straight to Germany without having a scan here? He has stated the scan was first taken in deutch land. Massively iffy to me

And to me; don't high profile people generally go to Harley Street for medical attention?

palooka wrote:

hurlock wrote:Palooka the injury was apparently a hole in the shoulder which had been in a state a while. I swear people forget haye had a niggle as reported flew all the way to Germany to find out his shoulder problem through a scan before operated on. It wasn't an instant injury that required instant attention.its funny he went straight to Germany without having a scan here? He has stated the scan was first taken in deutch land. Massively iffy to me

And to me; don't high profile people generally go to Harley Street for medical attention?

They go to the best person available or to some one who is recommended.

David Beckham went to Finland for surgery.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid= ... 6Thq0SAuxQ

Lennox went to Manhattan.

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/1993-0 ... er-punched

It's perfectly normal.

500BHP wrote: Lennox and Beckham have credibility.

And you don't.