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Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 20:28
by BoxBuzz
scorpio83 wrote:Ha ha BoxBuzz you and your gay jokes. I was asking Il Duce how good any of the fighters from the past were with their strength and weakness. He has good information on the size of every fighters. If you have a favorite fighter from the past, would you want to know how good he was?

I apologize if sharing bath towels was taken as a derogatory.....I believe it can simply be a cost saving step, and simply pragmatic in these financially stressed times. However....I must admit, I'm a fan of the ol "Il Duce Goodness Assessment" Because it is an opinion....and I feel he needs to express more opinions...as he spends far too much time channeling alternate dimensional factual boxing timelines. And it takes a lot out of him.....Opining tends to ground him and allow him to rest from the stress that remaining in a trance for extended periods of time can create.
So don't let my eco-humor dissuade you from asking.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 12 Apr 2014, 22:38
by BoxBuzz
FACT! No beard was she.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 00:59
by BoxBuzz
It should read...Monzon the Maniacal.
He was a cousin to Beelzebub....but lordy could he fight.
Interesting how you write about Ali in a disdainful manner, a man who surely demonstrated he had his dark side, but also can be looked at as someone with a fair share of redeeming qualities. But you write almost romantically (or at least with no negative edge) about Monzon....a chronic woman beater, and a murderer.
I happen to think both were the best from their respective weight class' as fighters. We apparently agree on Monzon's fighting ability. Or do we?
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 13 Apr 2014, 01:10
by BoxBuzz
Any thoughts on what would have happened (provided he could have stayed in top shape) in a Monzon vs Hugo Corro matchup in 78?
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 14 Apr 2014, 11:37
by scorpio83
Why does the third Monzon vs. Briscoe fight fell through?
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 10:44
by scorpio83
Il Duce, I would please like to know how good was Monzon's fellow countryman Hugo Corro? List of his strengths and weaknesses.
According from the cyberboxingzone.com, "Corro was a talented fighter whose fights were sometimes called boring; He was not overly exciting to watch but, nevertheless, possessed fine skills and was effective in his style."
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 15 Apr 2014, 12:35
by scorpio83
Il Duce, I would please like to know how good was Monzon's fellow countryman Hugo Corro? List of his strengths and weaknesses.
According from the cyberboxingzone.com, "Corro was a talented fighter whose fights were sometimes called boring; He was not overly exciting to watch but, nevertheless, possessed fine skills and was effective in his style."
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 09:34
by scorpio83
Il Duce, could you please tell me how good was Kevin Finnegan? What was his strength and weaknesses? What I knew Finnegan wasn't the hard puncher and was prone to getting cut.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 11:44
by scorpio83
Il Duce, could you please tell me how good was Kevin Finnegan? What was his strength and weaknesses? What I knew Finnegan wasn't the hard puncher and was prone to getting cut. Thanks.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 12:55
by scorpio83
Il Duce, could you please tell me how good was Kevin Finnegan? What was his style. What was his strength and weaknesses? What I knew Finnegan wasn't the hard puncher and was prone to getting cut. This is the third time that I was asking you.

Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 12:57
by scorpio83
Il Duce, could you please tell me how good was Kevin Finnegan? What was his style. What was his strength and weaknesses? What I knew Finnegan wasn't the hard puncher and was prone to getting cut. This is the fourth time that I was asking you and I just want to know, that's all.

Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 10:25
by scorpio83
Il Duce before you post something else, could you please tell me how good was Bunny Sterling? What was his strength and weaknesses? Does he had a good jab?

Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 11:30
by scorpio83
Il Duce before you post the Monzon vs. Valdes, could you please tell me how good was Bunny Sterling? What was his strength and weaknesses? Does he had a good jab?
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 14:41
by Flump
Il Duce, do you happen to know if either of the Hagler - Finnegan fights were filmed?
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 14:55
by scorpio83
I'm putting together a new 'Title Subject' for Bunny Sterling........
Ok Il Duce, do it.

Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 14:41
by scorpio83
What happened with Monzon's two fights with Valdes? I watched both fights on youtube. In the first fight, Monzon knocked Valdes down in the fourteenth round on his way to unified the world middleweight title and Monzon's second and final fight with Valdes, Monzon himself was knocked down in the second round after taking a big right hand from Valdes. However, Monzon retain his title for the final after 15 rounds of fighting.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 24 Apr 2014, 10:23
by scorpio83
And Carlos Monzon's final match against Rodrigo Valdes in their rematch?
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 10 May 2014, 18:17
by BoxBuzz
Monzon's is a face of a man who thoroughly enjoyed the "scuffle".
Valdez.....not so much.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 12 May 2014, 00:14
by elmersalsa
This guy, the great Carlos Monzon, watching him fight was like an horror movie. I mean, the great Muhammad Ali played and toyed with you. The great Roberto Duran loved to punish you and break you to pieces as quick as possible. But Monzon was like he did not care about dishing punishment. The longer the fight, the longer you are in it for pain. He reminds me a lot of Steven Seagal: Cruel, no mercy and premeditating. Like he knew you could not beat him inside that square ring. It was UNFAIR to see him fight middleweights. Maybe the light heavyweights were an even matchup. On his fight with the great Jose "Mantequilla" Napoles, I do not understand why they allowed that fight to happen to begin with. I was covering my eyes every time Mantequilla was getting hit.
The only thing he did not had in his arsenal was speed. But my question is, did he really needed it? Monzon to me, is a top 20 all time p4p. A great great fighter.
Re: 1970-1977 Middleweight Division The Monzon Era
Posted: 13 May 2014, 11:54
by BoxBuzz
Probably because Napoles came to hate his tormentor.
Monzon brutlalized most of his opponents, and Monzon loved the game, and even seemed to enjoy the punishment he would absorb and deliver. I don't believe a KO was ever his goal, but to really BEAT a man was his goal.
Good for Napoles for never feeling "defeated".
But those faces tell the story.