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gilgamesh wrote:Rees gets it!!!!

He retires a winner.....for a few months until he comes back

Im hoping Bellew and Cleverly have a tear up post fight

columbo wrote:Im hoping Bellew and Cleverly have a tear up post fight

Would be a better watch than this crap with Corbin

Yeah not the best. I dont think Bellew can talk that much either though as his opponent for his cruiserweight debut was pretty much tailor made.

Brudov was tailor made but...this is an awful match up...however you dress it up. 39 year old former LHW who has been stopped 4 times in 21 bouts...

Cleverly physically like Halling and co does look very good at the weight actually.

columbo wrote:Yeah not the best. I dont think Bellew can talk that much either though as his opponent for his cruiserweight debut was pretty much tailor made.

That's gonna be the case when someone is stepping up in weight tho. And coming off big KO losses like Nathan and Tony. It would be daft to chuck them in with top 10 guys, if they lose then forget the big money rematch.

jameswilson wrote:

columbo wrote:Yeah not the best. I dont think Bellew can talk that much either though as his opponent for his cruiserweight debut was pretty much tailor made.

That's gonna be the case when someone is stepping up in weight tho. And coming off big KO losses like Nathan and Tony. It would be daft to chuck them in with top 10 guys, if they lose then forget the big money rematch.

Yeah true. Wasnt really a criticism anyway. More in response to Bellew saying Cleverly's opponent is tailor made.

Have they got the same judges on recycle tonight?

jameswilson wrote:

columbo wrote:Yeah not the best. I dont think Bellew can talk that much either though as his opponent for his cruiserweight debut was pretty much tailor made.

That's gonna be the case when someone is stepping up in weight tho. And coming off big KO losses like Nathan and Tony. It would be daft to chuck them in with top 10 guys, if they lose then forget the big money rematch.

Huge difference between throwing them in with top 10 guys and...well...guys like this...

columbo wrote:Cleverly physically like Halling and co does look very good at the weight actually.

The difference is incredible, looks like he's really grown into the weight.

expe wrote:

columbo wrote:Cleverly physically like Halling and co does look very good at the weight actually.

The difference is incredible, looks like he's really grown into the weight.

And quite a bit of it's gone onto his legs which is good. Skinny legs are never a good sign.

...and the point of that was?...

iamasadlittleboy wrote:...and the point of that was?...

We dont think any juice is involved do we? I hope not. Looks brilliant anyway.

iamasadlittleboy wrote:...and the point of that was?...

First fight at a new weight, off the back of a stoppage defeat, gets him a world ranking, good confidence builder and allowed him to grow into the weight against a smaller cruiserweight. Needs stepping up next time out but I have no problem with him returning against a fighter like Corbin.

jameswilson wrote:

iamasadlittleboy wrote:...and the point of that was?...

Oh that's right, to give him a confidence boost...he might as well have just hit a bag in the middle of the ring for all the good that actually did. Fights like this are why fans turn away from the sport.

awful match up - Can't blame them for trying to rebuild his confidence after being smashed to pieces by Kovalev but that was just utterly pointless.

I bet he's had harder fights with heavy bags in the gym

columbo wrote:We dont think any juice is involved do we? I hope not. Looks brilliant anyway.

Nah his muscularity hasn't drastically increased. To my eye just looks like he is more hydrated and slightly bigger in the legs.

Good performance for Cleverly, it was another particularly quick stoppage, but it seemed inevitable nonetheless.

Nevertheless good Cleverly looks good at Cruiserweight. I can see him having some success there.

iamasadlittleboy wrote:

jameswilson wrote:

iamasadlittleboy wrote:...and the point of that was?...

Oh that's right, to give him a confidence boost...he might as well have just hit a bag in the middle of the ring for all the good that actually did. Fights like this are why fans turn away from the sport.

Don't ever take up promoting for god sake. If you expect every fight to be a 50-50 war then you are truly deluded.

Corbin looked seriously disinterested in there.

jameswilson wrote:

columbo wrote:We dont think any juice is involved do we? I hope not. Looks brilliant anyway.

Nah his muscularity hasn't drastically increased. To my eye just looks like he is more hydrated and slightly bigger in the legs.

Yeah we forgot how much water weight plays a factor aswell especially when you're dehydrated.

I know the opponent isnt much to gauge his performance against but Cleverley seemed to be putting more weight behind his punches. (Not just because hes heavier)

In the past he would have peppered an opponent with fast hands without worrying much about power but he seemed more willing to get power on his shots tonight.

expe wrote:

iamasadlittleboy wrote:...and the point of that was?...

First fight at a new weight, off the back of a stoppage defeat, gets him a world ranking, good confidence builder and allowed him to grow into the weight against a smaller cruiserweight. Needs stepping up next time out but I have no problem with him returning against a fighter like Corbin.

First fight at a new weight and he fights a bloated Light Heavyweight? So again the point?

He already had a world ranking (WBA #12 and WBO #12 both at Cruiserweight)

Could have had him in with a British Cruiserweight and he'd have had a better work out.