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Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 06:44
by expe
JimJim2009 wrote:I'm not sure when this happened, but in the WBO's latest rankings, Derrick is the number one contender. Presumably he doesn't need to even fight Fury "for the right" to challenge Wlad.
Like everyone else I really want to see Chisora / Fury 2, but its a bit strange when you consider Derrick is already the top contender. He doesn't need the fight. Fury does - in terms of becoming a mandatory challenger.
What is Derrick gaining from the fight ? Because, when he loses to Fury, and has forfeit his top ranking with the WBO, he might wonder if this was the best option for him ?
He needs to fight someone to become mandatory, if you're ranked 1 with the IBF then you're mandatory, but with the WBO it just means you're currently top of the pile, if #2 and #3 were to fight each other, Chisora would drop down to #2 and the winner would replace him at the top. Fighting Fury in an eliminator should guarantee the winner the mandatory position when it comes up. Without an eliminator it's pot luck with the WBO, they decide they feel like calling a mandatory and when they do it's just whoever happens to be #1 at that stage, that was how Ricky Burns got the Martinez fight.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 06:49
by broomy7s
Just seen this from a mirror journo.
allegedly is trying to find a new opponent for Fury for Saturday, but fighters are asking for too much because they know he is desperate.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 06:55
by PokerRob
Does anyone have an idea what the purse split was before the injury? If Dereck still gets paid anything? And if Tyson still gets paid anything, even if he does not find a replacement?
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:09
by bripez
broomy7s wrote:Just seen this from a mirror journo.
allegedly is trying to find a new opponent for Fury for Saturday, but fighters are asking for too much because they know he is desperate.
Great journalism ..... a vague comment that actually supports FW as this is just giving him an excuse when he does not find a replacement.
If the "journalist" is going to make such a comment, then they should find out exactly how much is being offered and how much boxers are wanting (in pound notes - and include any extras or options etc.).
Also, what do you expect ? - a boxer to get a call on a Tuesday night asking if they want to fight Fury on the Saturday ? - surely they need to be compensated appropriately ?
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:15
by Andrew
Finn wrote:just seen BJS has tweeted Eubank jr saying he will cancel his european title and fight him on saturday instead if he's up for it as the headliner
Billy is coming across as a bit of a nob here.
He is 2-3 years ahead of Eubank now and should just ignore him. Showing immaturity being wound up here. He may aswell just mention he is nowhere near my level and not get worked up.
Euabnk could be at that level now but either isn't aresed are likely being protected as he isn't that good.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:16
by Finn
bripez wrote:broomy7s wrote:Just seen this from a mirror journo.
allegedly is trying to find a new opponent for Fury for Saturday, but fighters are asking for too much because they know he is desperate.
Great journalism ..... a vague comment that actually supports FW as this is just giving him an excuse when he does not find a replacement.
If the "journalist" is going to make such a comment, then they should find out exactly how much is being offered and how much boxers are wanting (in pound notes - and include any extras or options etc.).
Also, what do you expect ? - a boxer to get a call on a Tuesday night asking if they want to fight Fury on the Saturday ? - surely they need to be compensated appropriately ?
ttue however if someone really wants a shot they shoul be willing to fight for £25-30k even if its on the understaning they will get an under are place on another event if they want it. Audley is rich and has fought in prize fighter for around that figure before he says he wants a decent opponent he should be offering his services for peanuts just for the chance. Just an example.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:23
by black panther
Finn wrote:bripez wrote:broomy7s wrote:Just seen this from a mirror journo.
allegedly is trying to find a new opponent for Fury for Saturday, but fighters are asking for too much because they know he is desperate.
Great journalism ..... a vague comment that actually supports FW as this is just giving him an excuse when he does not find a replacement.
If the "journalist" is going to make such a comment, then they should find out exactly how much is being offered and how much boxers are wanting (in pound notes - and include any extras or options etc.).
Also, what do you expect ? - a boxer to get a call on a Tuesday night asking if they want to fight Fury on the Saturday ? - surely they need to be compensated appropriately ?
ttue however if someone really wants a shot they shoul be willing to fight for £25-30k even if its on the understaning they will get an under are place on another event if they want it. Audley is rich and has fought in prize fighter for around that figure before he says he wants a decent opponent he should be offering his services for peanuts just for the chance. Just an example.
Na depends what your motivation is pal. Tiger Thompson probably doesn't have many years left in the game and will be looking to make as much money as he can whilst he's still able to fight at the highest level.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:30
by danconnollyeire
Haha 2 hours before it was announced Del pulled out Fury was tweeting 'don't dare pull out'. Jinxed it!
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:43
by bripez
Finn wrote:bripez wrote:broomy7s wrote:Just seen this from a mirror journo.
allegedly is trying to find a new opponent for Fury for Saturday, but fighters are asking for too much because they know he is desperate.
Great journalism ..... a vague comment that actually supports FW as this is just giving him an excuse when he does not find a replacement.
If the "journalist" is going to make such a comment, then they should find out exactly how much is being offered and how much boxers are wanting (in pound notes - and include any extras or options etc.).
Also, what do you expect ? - a boxer to get a call on a Tuesday night asking if they want to fight Fury on the Saturday ? - surely they need to be compensated appropriately ?
ttue however if someone really wants a shot they shoul be willing to fight for £25-30k even if its on the understaning they will get an under are place on another event if they want it. Audley is rich and has fought in prize fighter for around that figure before he says he wants a decent opponent he should be offering his services for peanuts just for the chance. Just an example.
So you would expect a heavyweight who may be sat at home and possibly ticking over in training to take on an unbeaten 6 foot 8 boxer who has been in full time training for 6 months, for £25k (will have £10k in his pocket after manager/promoter/taxes) at 4 days notice ?
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:48
by Finn
I expect fighters who aren't going to get a better fight any point who have been in sparring camps etc bee to take the shot that is there. Its not un realist audley said he would fight chambers last minute, Thompson and tarver are both offering to fight it all depends what they are willing to get paid. Which doea tarver need £10k or a fight at hw?
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 07:54
by sweetscience
danconnollyeire wrote:Haha 2 hours before it was announced Del pulled out Fury was tweeting 'don't dare pull out'. Jinxed it!
I presumed he just knew 2hrs before it was announced ??
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 08:55
by jamiedavies02
Still no word from Eventim or Fwank RE Refunds etc.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 09:13
by tony1234
I guess if Tyson fights anyone then that is the kibosh for refunds, maybe that is why they are looking for someone ?
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 11:49
by leforge
Viktor Vaughn wrote:They're looking for a replacement. Tickets can be used on Sat, held back for the rearranged date or you can apply for a refund.
Do you think rematch will happen?
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 11:51
by JimJim2009
Their local paper ran a new update at 3pm today after speaking with Peter; they're aiming to be fighting on Sat night, the opponent should be sorted by Thurs, it won't be Thompson, and its looking like Sept for the return with Chisora.
http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/sport/boxin ... -1-6743285
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:05
by Sklar
JimJim2009 wrote:Their local paper ran a new update at 3pm today after speaking with Peter; they're aiming to be fighting on Sat night, the opponent should be sorted by Thurs, it won't be Thompson, and its looking like Sept for the return with Chisora.
http://www.thevisitor.co.uk/sport/boxin ... -1-6743285
Fair dos if they do rustle up an opponent. People shouldn't get their hopes up for anything more than a huge scrabble scoring named eurobum though - anything else would be too dicey.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:17
by broomy7s
Fair play to queensbury on the refunds front.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:23
by Andrew
Nothing on the arena or warrens site but BS claim it will be
1. Use your ticket(s) for the show this Saturday
2. Keep your ticket(s) to exchange for a new ticket(s) to a rescheduled Chisora v Fury fight
3. Return your ticket(s) to Eventim within 28 days for a refund of the full face value
http://www.BS.com/fury-chisora ... ill--80194
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:24
by Andrew
You have to ask will it be rescheduled ??
Also ticket sales were poor for this even now there will be less fans going on Saturday.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:27
by DMA1987
In terms of percentage how many people have bought tickets due to the undercard fighters? I imagine a decent amount.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:41
by GlobalBox
I hope I am wrong but wondering if it could be James Toney as the replacement, Toney was due to fight in Riga this Saturday against Dennis Bakhtov but that has been called off today and Bakhtov is now fighting Airich. Now its probably just that the fight was never going to happen but Toney had been in the gym and conditioning (such as it is) etc so clearly at some point he was either going
to fight or considering it.
He would definately come for a wedge of money and I know its not a good fight in any shape or form but its a name (albeit) one who has long seen better days, its a no risk fight as well as Fury
would win and win at a canter.
Still as I say I hope I am wrong, my original guesses would have been Pala or Gerber.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 12:42
by palooka
Yeah, Gethin will be taking thousands and thousands.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 13:39
by Finn
Audleys just tweeted that he will take the fight in a heartbeat.
Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 13:43
by JimJim2009
palooka wrote:Yeah, Gethin will be taking thousands and thousands.

Re: Fury v Chisora OFF
Posted: 22 Jul 2014, 14:17
by DMA1987
palooka wrote:Yeah, Gethin will be taking thousands and thousands.
Was more thinking Flanagan, Smith, Saunders (both) etc.
But cheers for lobbing the obvious non ticket seller on there Palooka, good lad.
It's just with the rumoured poor ticket sales, I wondered how many of the sales stand apart from the actual main event. It's a legitimate question.