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4 domestic shows in the next 2 months is hardly a lot

tony1234 wrote:4 domestic shows in the next 2 months is hardly a lot

The quality of them has improved though.

tony1234 wrote:4 domestic shows in the next 2 months is hardly a lot

They have whatever shows allegedly puts on. He isn't able to put on more shows because he doesn't have enough fighters, 5 shows in the first 3 months of the year is a good start, especially considering that January's usually a quiet month.

tony1234 wrote:Another blank domestic weekend on B N, can't remember the last Saturday domestic bill they showed

They could have easily screened the bill from the Camden centre last night.

We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

SMALL AXE1 wrote:We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SMALL AXE1 wrote:We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Both SKY and BN are lacking at the moment, I'm not sure why BN can't put on a show every week instead of loading cards like the Fury bill

I see on the allegedly website that they are showing a Samvy Vasquez fight on 20th Feb. Dont know much bout him, but I see his recently signed with Al Haymon. Maybe a promising sign that B*allegedly will be showing the Premier Boxing shows?

expe wrote:

tony1234 wrote:4 domestic shows in the next 2 months is hardly a lot

They have whatever shows allegedly puts on. He isn't able to put on more shows because he doesn't have enough fighters, 5 shows in the first 3 months of the year is a good start, especially considering that January's usually a quiet month.

Hardly justifies having a dedicated, 1 sport, subscription channel, particularly when he isn't bringing in the big international shows either.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SMALL AXE1 wrote:We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

moogie101 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SMALL AXE1 wrote:We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

There's been two major shows this year, Wilder-Stiverne and Rios-Alvarado, allegedly had both of them. The simple problem has been that Frank hasn't had any shows yet this year and there hasn't been much to bring in from elsewhere. It hasn't been great, but I can't see what else they could have done, it's like asking Sky to show Premiership football in June.

moogie101 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SMALL AXE1 wrote:We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

I agree with this. There's been overseas shows during the frequent weekends when the channel has zero live boxing on. They bank the subs but have given us little in return. Yes, the line up for March is better but it is an undeniably poor start to the year.

moogie101 wrote:

Boxerbeetle wrote:

SMALL AXE1 wrote:We need allegedly! Sky and Farce Card Eddie are a joke! Get it? Farce Card Eddie because his cards are sh1t.

Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

I understand that, but I get my football fix from my season ticket & I couldn't give a toss about golf, F1, tennis, rugby or any other of the sports my Sky subscription funds. Essentially, I'm spending 20 quid a month for the privilege of watching boxing on Sky Sports (with the added bonus of PPV for any 'big' fight of their choosing) & 12 quid a month for the privilege of watching boxing on B0xnati0n. Over the last 2 or 3 years, there's absolutely no doubt which has been better value for me. So I can forgive them for a dry couple of months, particularly when there's been fvck all boxing for them to show anyway.

expe wrote:

moogie101 wrote: Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

There's been two major shows this year, Wilder-Stiverne and Rios-Alvarado, allegedly had both of them. The simple problem has been that Frank hasn't had any shows yet this year and there hasn't been much to bring in from elsewhere. It hasn't been great, but I can't see what else they could have done, it's like asking Sky to show Premiership football in June.

I at no stage say anything about "major" shows, I simply said that a boxing channel should be showing boxing.The only reason this doesn't happen is because it would mean an extra expense for B0xnati0n, but when fans are shelling out for a monthly subscription there is no excuse for not having a show on.

If there's no big names fighting & Fwank doesn't have a show on himself then get a small hall show on (whether domestic or international there is always a fight card on somewhere), gives a chance for some unknowns to get in the spotlight & also means you're filling the brief of a channel supposed to be dedicated to boxing.

Boxerbeetle wrote:

moogie101 wrote:
Plus, how many shows have Sky put on in the last few months anyway? B0xnati0n may be going through a bit of a dry spell at the moment, but generally speaking Sky is a fvcking desert for boxing in comparison.

Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

I understand that, but I get my football fix from my season ticket & I couldn't give a toss about golf, F1, tennis, rugby or any other of the sports my Sky subscription funds. Essentially, I'm spending 20 quid a month for the privilege of watching boxing on Sky Sports (with the added bonus of PPV for any 'big' fight of their choosing) & 12 quid a month for the privilege of watching boxing on B0xnati0n. Over the last 2 or 3 years, there's absolutely no doubt which has been better value for me. So I can forgive them for a dry couple of months, particularly when there's been fvck all boxing for them to show anyway.[/quote]

But Fwanks £12 is just for boxing. That's it & the point is he should be providing more for that subscription.
What you pay for Sky gives you access to many other sports, if you choose not to watch them that is down to you.

moogie101 wrote:

expe wrote:

moogie101 wrote: Hardly a fair argument is it though.

B0xnati0n is a boxing only channel. Call me silly but for my money I kind of expect to se some boxing. If Fwank's not putting on a show himself because he hasn't the fighters then he should be getting shows from elsewhere. At the very least I'd expect one new fight card a week on a dedicated boxing channel. The fact that people are trying to defend his recent output is just laughable.

Sky meanwhile is a sports channel, showing a variety of sporting events & quite clearly football, golf, darts, F1 are Sky's bigger priorities with boxing far down the totem pole, unless they're trying to sell us a PPV that is.

There's been two major shows this year, Wilder-Stiverne and Rios-Alvarado, allegedly had both of them. The simple problem has been that Frank hasn't had any shows yet this year and there hasn't been much to bring in from elsewhere. It hasn't been great, but I can't see what else they could have done, it's like asking Sky to show Premiership football in June.

I at no stage say anything about "major" shows, I simply said that a boxing channel should be showing boxing.The only reason this doesn't happen is because it would mean an extra expense for B0xnati0n, but when fans are shelling out for a monthly subscription there is no excuse for not having a show on.

If there's no big names fighting & Fwank doesn't have a show on himself then get a small hall show on (whether domestic or international there is always a fight card on somewhere), gives a chance for some unknowns to get in the spotlight & also means you're filling the brief of a channel supposed to be dedicated to boxing.

There's hardly been any small hall shows on either and none worthy of TV coverage, the only one that they could have possibly picked up was the Mickey Helliet show with Dillian Whyte topping the bill, but that was only an 8 rounder and the rest of the show was filled with prospect vs Latvian, not the sort of small hall show that's ever going to be considered for TV coverage. The cost of broadcasting something like that just isn't worth it, especially when hardly anyone would watch it.

The best small hall show I've seen in ages was a Steve Goodwin bill; very competitive bouts and capable boxers - the Goodwin shows ought to be widely shown - their team could learn some of the bigger names a thing or 2.

Arent some of the Goodwin shows on Fightpass? If so cant see Frank picking up the rest that Mismatchroom dont want.

I'm not sure where the Goodwin cards are shown and I am a fan, if a casual fan were to catch one of these good cards it'd be by accident. The viewing is getting too complicated or I'm getting old.

Are the Goodwin shows worth being televised though? You'd have people complaining about no boxing and people complaining about 12 fights of shit boxing.

I'd rather see Frank run one domestic card per month at a good standard than try to crowbar two or three in with local ticket selling geezers beating Latvians for four rounds.

I remember a few of Goodwin's show's were on Loaded TV,some good scraps but Jamie Moore is a better pundit than presenter

handsofstone wrote:I remember a few of Goodwin's show's were on Loaded TV,some good scraps but Jamie Moore is a better pundit than presenter

It was Maloney that had shows on Loaded TV.

Goodwins shows have been Eurosport and Primetime. Both for very short periods of time.

I terms of small hall shows without TV, I actually think Stefy Bull puts on some of the best cards.

Wake up call wrote:

handsofstone wrote:I remember a few of Goodwin's show's were on Loaded TV,some good scraps but Jamie Moore is a better pundit than presenter

It was Maloney that had shows on Loaded TV.

Goodwins shows have been Eurosport and Primetime. Both for very short periods of time.

I terms of small hall shows without TV, I actually think Stefy Bull puts on some of the best cards.

I meant Primetime

im p*ssed off with the quality of shows on both channels at the moment
there is no really top class fights coming up
I have both channels and will remain having both channels but the cards and fights should be better

next week on channel five is a class card and better than any sky or frankie card so far this year

When is the last time Eddie put on a really good fight that got everybody excited that you would bring mates around to your house for that was not PPV..

the only one i can think is Froch v bute,,

this is not good from Eddie and sky