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Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 10:58
by Tanzio
SMartinez was never a full fledged modern MW. Everything is tilted in Cotto's favor.
WAR GEALE!!!
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 12:09
by ScottDetonator
If Geale comes through, surely Golovkin is finally secured as number 1 middleweight across the board.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 12:23
by Tanzio
ScottDetonator wrote:If Geale comes through, surely Golovkin is finally secured as number 1 middleweight across the board.
Who does not consider him that now?
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 12:24
by ikorolev
ScottDetonator wrote:If Geale comes through, surely Golovkin is finally secured as number 1 middleweight across the board.
Even if drained Geale wins 4 rounds and hears the final bell, Cotto is screwed.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:31
by Autobarn
Miguel cotto raping his opponents negotiations - again. Last time Martinez couldn't even have his bad knees strapped up and the 40 year old had to come in at a low weight.
Now geale has to come in 3 pounds inside.
Cotto, whose 2 recent big wins were aided by leg injuries of his opponents Martinez and foreman, is taking everything he can and giving back less - the terms he demands v Martinez and geale take away anything competitive from the fights.
The funny thing is, he's too big for 154 and too small for 160. At 154 he's out of ideas and energy in about 6 rounds. But he doesn't want fully fledged 160-pound opponents. Hope he gets the Alvarez fight, at least they'll be even, one likes to fight middleweight a few pounds Under 160, the other likes to fight light middleweights Over the 154 limit. Will it be caneloweight 155 or cottonweight 157 .
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:42
by Butterbean
What time is this being fought central european time ? Cant seem to find it on any channels !
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:46
by crusader
Tanzio wrote:ScottDetonator wrote:If Geale comes through, surely Golovkin is finally secured as number 1 middleweight across the board.
Who does not consider him that now?
People who worship lineal titles, and who thus have to say to maintain consistency that GGG's third round destruction victim is the man at 160.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:50
by ikorolev
Butterbean wrote:What time is this being fought central european time ? Cant seem to find it on any channels !
HBO starts at 22:30 EDT, so it must be 4:30 is Europe.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 15:57
by Butterbean
ikorolev wrote:Butterbean wrote:What time is this being fought central european time ? Cant seem to find it on any channels !
HBO starts at 22:30 EDT, so it must be 4:30 is Europe.
Thx.
To late,... Or early, with littleings and all...
Good fight everyone
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 17:17
by Badhusker
Did someone say cotto is too big for 154? I hope that was sarcasm.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 17:30
by Badhusker
Cotto is by far NOT the best 154 pounder, not even to mention 160. I can name 3 or 4 guys easily that would beat him at either weight.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 19:03
by Autobarn
Badhusker wrote:Did someone say cotto is too big for 154? I hope that was sarcasm.
I feel he has outgrown it, that to get down to 154 takes his energy. when cotto moved up and fought Rodriguez, the spin was this is the new, stronger cotto who can do more with the extra few pounds. This, I feel, is why cotto fights catchweights between 154 & 160.
Canelo is similar, facing light middleweight opponents always above the 154 limit.
In order to perform like the stars they're supposed to be, they have to drag opponents either up or down to their preferred weight, mocking the concept of weight classes and making damn sure they win.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 19:13
by ikorolev
Autobarn wrote:Badhusker wrote:Did someone say cotto is too big for 154? I hope that was sarcasm.
I feel he has outgrown it, that
to get down to 154 takes his energy. when cotto moved up and fought Rodriguez, the spin was this is the new, stronger cotto who can do more with the extra few pounds. This, I feel, is why cotto fights catchweights between 154 & 160.
Canelo is similar, facing light middleweight opponents always above the 154 limit.
In order to perform like the stars they're supposed to be, they have to drag opponents either up or down to their preferred weight, mocking the concept of weight classes and making damn sure they win.
Don't you know that he weighed 153.6 yesterday ?
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 19:21
by scottearley123456
ikorolev wrote:jezzamundo wrote:I just watched the video of the weigh in - I don't think Geale looked too bad TBH. Super pumped for this fight, hoping that Geale can pull out the win.
I agree. Lots of fighters especially at lower weights often look way worse. He had a normal look of a man who had to work on cutting weight.
He def looks better in the video than that first pic i seen. So disappointed that he has to drain because an in form geale has every chance to take this
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 19:24
by scottearley123456
kidbazooka1 wrote:European posters sticking with the European what a shocker.
You guys keep on hoping.
Cotto is gonna fuuck that boy up.
Can't wait.
You do know that America was settled and owned by Europeans dont you? A vast percent of people in America are of European decent.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 19:37
by Hounddawg
Man Geale looks sick.
I have seen nearly every fight of his, and he looks frail, i won't jump on the let's kill Roach/Cotto bandwagon, however agree that it's really not any accomplishment to beat up on fighters at there weakest.
As i said in another website, i hope i'm wrong, i hope Geale proves me wrong.
I hope the boxing gods right this wrong.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 19:55
by Bobbyptsd
Badhusker wrote:Cotto is by far NOT the best 154 pounder, not even to mention 160. I can name 3 or 4 guys easily that would beat him at either weight.
"By far"? Christ, he gave Floyd Mayweather a good fight.
I'm certainly not saying he's unbeatable or anything, but he seems like a perennially underrated (I know it's a strange term to use for a superstar) guy to me. All through his career he's been an elite fighter, but he's never really gotten as much recognition from the more hardcore fans, in my view.
I'd like to know who all these guys who beat him easily are. Unless someone is going to outbox him from a distance, and that's obviously possible, he'll give anyone a fight.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 20:34
by Tomasino
Always like Cotto, the mans had to suffer drainage himself for most of his career. Agree he gave Floyd a good tussle. I don't like what he's done here with Geale tho but Daniel agreed to the fight.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 21:09
by crusader
Rafael just tweeted that today a fully clothed Geale weighed in at 182 on HBO's unofficial scale.
Cotto declined to be weighed.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 21:29
by jezzamundo
Wow, I'll bet that 182lb includes his wallet and mobile phone and a stomach full of food and water. I'd be shocked if his actual weight was over 175lb, no way is Geale as big a middleweight as Chavez Jr!
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 21:33
by ikorolev
crusader wrote:Rafael just tweeted that today a fully clothed Geale weighed in at 182 on HBO's unofficial scale.
Cotto declined to be weighed.
Was he wearing medieval knight equipment

Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 21:35
by crusader
Fernando Vargas is fighting on the undercard.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 22:15
by crusader
And he beats Wilfredo Vasquez Jr. by decision.
Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 22:15
by crusader
The big one is next

Re: Cotto vs Geale
Posted: 06 Jun 2015, 22:41
by handsofstone
crusader wrote:The big one is next

Crusader your one of the posters whose opinion I respect most,Cotto's one of my favs but,what result can favor him?,even a 1st round KO win will be shat on with the whole catchweight
Martinez was finished that night and Rodriguez was never world class but Cotto did look great they nights,its a pity he's became a bit of a figure of fun because even if Miguel is rejuvenated, he'll be slated
Its like the biggest warrior In the sport has become the biggest liberty taker