Deontay Wilder Is a Joke

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IronFrost wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I just heard Klitschko doesn't fight Joshua, so there is a possibility of Wilder fighting Klitschko! That would be awesome!

And just like with Whyte, if anyone beats Whyte, or Klitschko, he earned a shot at AJ imo.

Where you heard Klitschko wont fight Joshua ? Or are you trolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngHy4KOAl9w
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asdfjkl wrote:
IronFrost wrote:
asdfjkl wrote:I just heard Klitschko doesn't fight Joshua, so there is a possibility of Wilder fighting Klitschko! That would be awesome!

And just like with Whyte, if anyone beats Whyte, or Klitschko, he earned a shot at AJ imo.

Where you heard Klitschko wont fight Joshua ? Or are you trolling?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngHy4KOAl9w


There is no proof that Klitschko said anything about retirement. Also against Joshua he can win 3 belts + so much more money. There is no reason for Wladimir
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But that would be great see Wilder against Klitschko.

Atleast we could compare Fury's , AJ's and Wilder's perfomances
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IronFrost wrote:But that would be great see Wilder against Klitschko.

Atleast we could compare Fury's , AJ's and Wilder's perfomances
Yeah, it'd be about like this

Fury won a staring contest
AJ knocked out Wlad in what was one of the most exciting fight of Wlad's career.
Wilder got knocked by Wlad.
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gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:But that would be great see Wilder against Klitschko.

Atleast we could compare Fury's , AJ's and Wilder's perfomances
Yeah, it'd be about like this

Fury won a staring contest
AJ knocked out Wlad in what was one of the most exciting fight of Wlad's career.
Wilder got knocked by Wlad.

Dont be so sure lol. I do not think Fury is any better than Wilder.

In the fact right before Wladimir fight - he was badly hurt even by Firtha or knocked down by a cruiserweight.

Also Wladimir was not so good against AJ.

He was good only because AJ gassed out badly and still he could not finish him off for some weird reason.

Compubox says it clear. Wladimir was losing five rounds before AJ gassed out . I had it 4-1 with knockdown
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Wlad could knock out Wilder, he could've knocked out Fury too. He just needed to actually fight him. Whether or not Wlad would beat Wilder or not would depend on which Wlad showed up. The Wlad that fought Fury couldn't beat anybody, The Wlad that fought Joshua would knock Wilder or Fury out.
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gilgamesh wrote:Wlad could knock out Wilder, he could've knocked out Fury too. He just needed to actually fight him. Whether or not Wlad would beat Wilder or not would depend on which Wlad showed up. The Wlad that fought Fury couldn't beat anybody, The Wlad that fought Joshua would knock Wilder or Fury out.

Nope :D There is reason why Anthony got hit :D It was because he gassed out and was standing in front of Klitschko without any focus.

Wilder would jump on him and finish him with those ugly windmils . Thats what Klitschko could do

Also Wilder or Fury are outside fighters while Joshua is mostly a classic boxer puncher but much easier to hit and eating jabs because he is coming forward and Fury/Wilder fight from outside
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He got hit because he actually made a fight of it. Fury made a staring contest out of it, and Wlad stupidly let him.
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gilgamesh wrote:He got hit because he actually made a fight of it. Fury made a staring contest out of it, and Wlad stupidly let him.



Fury neutralised his biggest weapons and it was because Fury was good on feets and was not coming forward against Wladimir jabs / straigts.

Also if we talk about Joshua there are big chances he will lose against Fury or Wilder in the future.

His stamina is probably worst in top 5 and his defence is not very good. All of his opponents were scared exept Wladimir and Whyte.

He is good boxer and best finisher but his movement , defence and stamina suck. He is very beatable
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IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:He got hit because he actually made a fight of it. Fury made a staring contest out of it, and Wlad stupidly let him.



Fury neutralised his biggest weapons and it was because Fury was good on feets and was not coming forward against Wladimir jabs / straigts.

Also if we talk about Joshua there are big chances he will lose against Fury or Wilder in the future.

His stamina is probably worst in top 5 and his defence is not very good. All of his opponents were scared exept Wladimir and Whyte.

He is good boxer and best finisher but his movement , defence and stamina suck. He is very beatable
Nobody worth a sh*t if ever gonna lose to Fury again.
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gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:He got hit because he actually made a fight of it. Fury made a staring contest out of it, and Wlad stupidly let him.



Fury neutralised his biggest weapons and it was because Fury was good on feets and was not coming forward against Wladimir jabs / straigts.

Also if we talk about Joshua there are big chances he will lose against Fury or Wilder in the future.

His stamina is probably worst in top 5 and his defence is not very good. All of his opponents were scared exept Wladimir and Whyte.

He is good boxer and best finisher but his movement , defence and stamina suck. He is very beatable
Nobody worth a sh*t if ever gonna lose to Fury again.


Fury has so good movement , he is so tall and has rangy jab. How do you think a plodder like Anthony beats him? It's very hard to say if someone has stamina problems like Joshua... Too much muscles on his body.. Joshua simpl can not have those stamina problems against someone like Fury,
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IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:



Fury neutralised his biggest weapons and it was because Fury was good on feets and was not coming forward against Wladimir jabs / straigts.

Also if we talk about Joshua there are big chances he will lose against Fury or Wilder in the future.

His stamina is probably worst in top 5 and his defence is not very good. All of his opponents were scared exept Wladimir and Whyte.

He is good boxer and best finisher but his movement , defence and stamina suck. He is very beatable
Nobody worth a sh*t if ever gonna lose to Fury again.


Fury has so good movement , he is so tall and has rangy jab. How do you think a plodder like Anthony beats him? It's very hard to say if someone has stamina problems like Joshua... Too much muscles on his body.. Joshua simpl can not have those stamina problems against someone like Fury,
I think Joshua beats him because he's an athlete that takes his career seriously and Fury's not. I think he smashes Fury within 5.
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gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
Nobody worth a sh*t if ever gonna lose to Fury again.


Fury has so good movement , he is so tall and has rangy jab. How do you think a plodder like Anthony beats him? It's very hard to say if someone has stamina problems like Joshua... Too much muscles on his body.. Joshua simpl can not have those stamina problems against someone like Fury,
I think Joshua beats him because he's an athlete that takes his career seriously and Fury's not. I think he smashes Fury within 5.
Yes he is an athlete but his stamina is probably the worst in top five. I saw him gassed out already twice and it's not a good sign.

Look what happened to Kovalev :d
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IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:


Fury has so good movement , he is so tall and has rangy jab. How do you think a plodder like Anthony beats him? It's very hard to say if someone has stamina problems like Joshua... Too much muscles on his body.. Joshua simpl can not have those stamina problems against someone like Fury,
I think Joshua beats him because he's an athlete that takes his career seriously and Fury's not. I think he smashes Fury within 5.
Yes he is an athlete but his stamina is probably the worst in top five. I saw him gassed out already twice and it's not a good sign.

Look what happened to Kovalev :d
Stamina can be improved, and even if not, pacing can be improved allowing a fighter to make better use of the stamina he DOES have.

Some fighters never improve it...Pascal comes to mind, but several do once it becomes a problem for them in the ring once.
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IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:But that would be great see Wilder against Klitschko.

Atleast we could compare Fury's , AJ's and Wilder's perfomances
Yeah, it'd be about like this

Fury won a staring contest
AJ knocked out Wlad in what was one of the most exciting fight of Wlad's career.
Wilder got knocked by Wlad.

Dont be so sure lol. I do not think Fury is any better than Wilder.

In the fact right before Wladimir fight - he was badly hurt even by Firtha or knocked down by a cruiserweight.

Also Wladimir was not so good against AJ.

He was good only because AJ gassed out badly and still he could not finish him off for some weird reason.

Compubox says it clear. Wladimir was losing five rounds before AJ gassed out . I had it 4-1 with knockdown
If you thought Tyson Fury was knocked down by a cruiserweigth, that's a myth, Tyson Fury claims he always got the media against him and all the positive things get hidden around him and all the negative things get spread all over the world straight away.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEW7vxjmsk0&t=190s
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He can say what he wants about it, but there's this...

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IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
IronFrost wrote:


Fury has so good movement , he is so tall and has rangy jab. How do you think a plodder like Anthony beats him? It's very hard to say if someone has stamina problems like Joshua... Too much muscles on his body.. Joshua simpl can not have those stamina problems against someone like Fury,
I think Joshua beats him because he's an athlete that takes his career seriously and Fury's not. I think he smashes Fury within 5.
Yes he is an athlete but his stamina is probably the worst in top five. I saw him gassed out already twice and it's not a good sign.

Look what happened to Kovalev :d
Fury would be long counted out before Joshua was tired, but this may as well be talking about Joshua vs Bobick. Fury is finished.
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SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
IronFrost wrote:
gilgamesh wrote:
I think Joshua beats him because he's an athlete that takes his career seriously and Fury's not. I think he smashes Fury within 5.
Yes he is an athlete but his stamina is probably the worst in top five. I saw him gassed out already twice and it's not a good sign.

Look what happened to Kovalev :d
Fury would be long counted out before Joshua was tired, but this may as well be talking about Joshua vs Bobick. Fury is finished.
Saad...come on now....you really expect him to get the Bobick reference? :lol:
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gilgamesh wrote:
SaadOffTheDeck wrote:
IronFrost wrote:
Yes he is an athlete but his stamina is probably the worst in top five. I saw him gassed out already twice and it's not a good sign.

Look what happened to Kovalev :d
Fury would be long counted out before Joshua was tired, but this may as well be talking about Joshua vs Bobick. Fury is finished.
Saad...come on now....you really expect him to get the Bobick reference? :lol:
Of course not, that was intentional. I didn't anticipate responding to him more than once.
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asdfjkl wrote:Or we don't fight dopers, unless they are called Arreola or Stiverne.
4 july, funny to read things back.
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