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Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 19:39
by Badhusker
Thought I would check back in, but after seeing the same shit, guess I will keep away for a while.

Mods need to lock crap like this, and boot some fools.We have lost some great posters because of idiots.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 20:06
by koolkc107
No need to keep arguing when none of what I have said has been refuted.

When one of you 3 stooges has something of merit to talk about, get at me.

I will leave you with this:

In a USADA memo obtained by USA TODAY Sports, the agency explains how it oversaw the administering of the IV to Mayweather, as well as other information in the SB Nation story it deems inaccurate.

A USADA Doping Control Officer (DCO) came to Mayweather’s home on May 1 to collect a urine sample, however Mayweather was dehydrated and unable to produce one. A paramedic was summoned to Mayweather’s home and provided the IV, with the DCO in Mayweather’s presence until the boxer was able to provide a urine sample.

Mayweather applied for a therapeutic-use exemption and it was granted after the fight. Such an exemption is not required by NSAC since pre-fight IVs are not banned. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada.

On the day of the Mayweather-Berto fight, NSAC executive director Bob Bennett said: “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”

USADA, NSAC, WADA...none of them have any complaints.

None of them feel any need to investigate.

Good luck with yours...LOL!

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 20:28
by Ricky_
Yourr going over the same old ground clown face.

The MayPac fight didn't happen 5 years ago because NSACs drug testing wasn't enough for Floyd. He needed Olympic standards.

He broke those standards and now his defence is that his IV still fell within NSAC standards :lol:


Gtfo here. UFC fighters are kicking up a stink because they all used IVs, legal under NSAC. But now UFC have drafted in USADA and guess what, IVs are banned.

It seems though they just need to say they are dehydrated and get a TUE....... ofcourse they are dehydrated, thats the fornicating point of draining.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 30 Sep 2015, 23:42
by Pureist
Still doesn't answer the nagging questions, if he was so dehydrated, why wasn't he taken to hospital for the IV, why wasn't the fluid administered via wada regulations, if he was SO dehydrated why was he allowed to fight, extreme dehydration takes time to get over and he would have come in heavier on fight night if he replenished so much NEEDED fluid, you ostrich have only had one line in response, a dco was with him, explain to me how according to yourself and huski Floyd is innocent yet pacquaio was on peds because of the size of his head, yet Floyd is the one flouting the rules. Also wada haven't commented, according to your thinking, it would be OK to rob the bank as long as a policeman was with me, corruption is rife in boxing and floyd obviously isn't immune

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 03:59
by DA GOOSE
Badhusker wrote:Thought I would check back in, but after seeing the same poo, guess I will keep away for a while.

Mods need to lock crap like this, and boot some fools.We have lost some great posters because of idiots.
Legitimate debate on a major boxing story. Don't see the problem mate.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 05:31
by Ricky_
DA GOOSE wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Thought I would check back in, but after seeing the same poo, guess I will keep away for a while.

Mods need to lock crap like this, and boot some fools.We have lost some great posters because of idiots.
Legitimate debate on a major boxing story. Don't see the problem mate.

The problem is his boy Floyd being exposed. He doesn't like it.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 07:34
by caldo2025
koolkc107 wrote:No need to keep arguing when none of what I have said has been refuted.

When one of you 3 stooges has something of merit to talk about, get at me.

I will leave you with this:

In a USADA memo obtained by USA TODAY Sports, the agency explains how it oversaw the administering of the IV to Mayweather, as well as other information in the SB Nation story it deems inaccurate.

A USADA Doping Control Officer (DCO) came to Mayweather’s home on May 1 to collect a urine sample, however Mayweather was dehydrated and unable to produce one. A paramedic was summoned to Mayweather’s home and provided the IV, with the DCO in Mayweather’s presence until the boxer was able to provide a urine sample[/b].

Mayweather applied for a therapeutic-use exemption and it was granted after the fight. Such an exemption is not required by NSAC since pre-fight IVs are not banned. In fact, it is a common practice among athletes licensed to fight in Nevada.

On the day of the Mayweather-Berto fight, NSAC executive director Bob Bennett said: “Mr. Mayweather has done nothing wrong. The Nevada State Athletic Commission has no interest in any type of investigation regarding his IV. He did not violate the WADA Prohibited List for any type of drugs that are prohibited on that list, and we have no interest in it whatsoever.”

USADA, NSAC, WADA...none of them have any complaints.

None of them feel any need to investigate.

Good luck with yours...LOL!


KC, where's the link to this story in USA Today and the sources? Because this information flies in the face of everything that has been reported about the matter.

So you're saying that a USADA employee gave Floyd the IV above? It was reported that a USADA employee noticed IV paraphernalia and was advised the Floyd's MEDICAL TEAM provided him with that IV for exhaustion. Then why is everyone reporting:
The day before Floyd Mayweather Jr.'s highly anticipated bout against Manny Pacquiao, agents for the United States Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) conducted a surprise drug test on Mayweather and found evidence of an illegal IV being used on the boxer, according to Thomas Hauser of SBNation.

Bob Bennett sure has some conflicting soundbites then if your saying above that he said that Mayweather did nothing wrong. You're saying that Bob Bennett's quote came he day of the fight but this quote below is more recent than that. AND everything I read says that Bennet didn't know about this until many days AFTER the fight while your quote is THE DAY OF?:
Bob Bennett, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, called the use of the IV "totally unacceptable."

"The TUE for Mayweather's IV — and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time — was totally unacceptable," Bennett told SBNation.


I'll leave you with this last bit from the Godfather of Steroids, Victor Conte. Since becoming the governments expert witness in steroid cases, he's been right about them all...Lance, Clemens, Jones, McGuire, Sosa......he hasn't been wrong yet. Here's what he has to say about the IV and i think we can all agree, he knows far more than anyone in the world including anyone on this forum:

WADA bans the infusion of more than 50 ml in a six-hour period unless "received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations."

Victor Conte, who came to fame as the founder of the Balco lab and who later pleaded guilty to conspiracy to distribute steroids, also says the use of the IV is worrisome.

"If they're administering what they said they did, it doesn't make sense to me," Conte told SBNation. "There are more effective ways to rehydrate. If you drank ice-cold Celtic seawater, you'd have far greater benefits. It's very suspicious to me. I can tell you that IV drugs clear an athlete's system more quickly than drugs that are administered by subcutaneous injection. So why did Usada make this decision? Why did they grant something that's prohibited? In my view, that's something federal law enforcement officials should be asking."

There's some serious conflicting information in the facts that you are putting up KC so show your work. And Badhusker can go screw if he's not happy with content of this post and site. Good riddance.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 07:36
by Pureist
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Re: Thoughts on Floyd Mayweather’s new physique?
Postby Badhusker » 21 Apr 2015, 19:51
The difference is that Floyd will submit to unlimited random testing, and Pac refused. Red flags show up, and rightfully so. You don't walk away from a career payday unless it could ruin your reputation and career.[/quote]


You mean only use the agency that catches less cheaters, telling them when they can start testing him, always drag out the announcing of the fights so the window for testing will be shorter and having a known supplier of peds hanging around in the camp and I am not talking about Ariza.[/quote]


:roll: Now it is the testing that is not stringent enough, and Floyd controls it all? Next we will hear that Floyd paid them off, along with the judges, the ref, Pac's team, blah blah blah. None of it matters unless Pac loses, right? You would think if the USADA was weak in catching cheaters that Pac would have no problem getting tested. Roach even admitted that the fight not happening when they refused drug testing was on them, not Floyd.

It still makes me laugh at the excuses that surfaced after Pac was knocked out by JMM - accusing him of roids. I wonder where that lawsuit was? Roach and Pac thought he should have to go through random testing because of who he was associating with. After JMM said he would gladly take any tests that Pac does, they dropped it.-------------- funny husker, you didn't mind it when you thought the shoe was on the other foot

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 07:53
by koolkc107
DA GOOSE wrote:
Badhusker wrote:Thought I would check back in, but after seeing the same poo, guess I will keep away for a while.

Mods need to lock crap like this, and boot some fools.We have lost some great posters because of idiots.
Legitimate debate on a major boxing story. Don't see the problem mate.
I wanted it to be that, Goose.

But Husker has a point.

No matter how much fact you give folks, no matter how well you document it,
no matter how much you own them point after point after point....they still have idiocy to spew.

They never run out of stupid things to say.

And it is all because they are really still butthurt at how easily the hero they've worshipped
for over a decade was handled, how amateurish he was made to look by another great.

The debate over who is better was answered bigtime and they cant handle it.

So they grasp at straws.

The information about Floyds IV was out in May.
Mayweather has a youtube video dated June explaining it.

But, these folks only got their panties in a bunch when Hauser, a noted Floyd hater
and paid employee of HBO, wrote a smear article and timed its release in a
pathetic attempt to throw shade at Mayweather on the eve of his last fight.

Hauser's problem (and that of these other butthurt fanboys) is that they have to
drag USADA into it and discredit them in order for the smear to be believable.

And USADA is more than able to prove that nothing inappropriate happened.

I'm no psychic, but here's a prediction anyway.

Hauser, if he is anything, is a very good muckraker. He has promised a follow up.

I bet it amounts to even more nothing than the smear that started all this.

I'm sure he has tried to track down the DCO and the paramedic to get a blow by blow account.
I'm certain he reached out to WADA before the first article was published.
Did anyone notice there was no quote from anyone in WADA in Hausers article?
He makes a point to mention he tried to get a reply from USADA but only got an email from
a spokesperson. Yet, he is saying a WADA protocol was violated. Why no quote from them?
Makes you wonder why not since he had 4 months to write it.

I predict he never prints anything from any of those folks- because what they say would
simple further back up Floyd and USADA.

PS- Caldo, you haven't documented jack in this thread but let me not link ONE assertion and you have to have documentation?
Find it yourself. It's Boxing Junkie in USA today and it is from the 16th on last month

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 08:07
by Pureist
Answer these questions kooli, why hydrate with an IV and not simply drink water, why hydrate with 750 ml when it's against he rules, I train 6 days a week and have never needed an IV to rehydrate, it doesn't matter if it wasn't against NSAC rules, floyd called for Olympic style testing and broke those rules, answer me why he needed to hydrate like that, simple request

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 08:56
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:Answer these questions kooli, why hydrate with an IV and not simply drink water, why hydrate with 750 ml when it's against he rules, I train 6 days a week and have never needed an IV to rehydrate, it doesn't matter if it wasn't against NSAC rules, floyd called for Olympic style testing and broke those rules, answer me why he needed to hydrate like that, simple request
Well, as I have already pointed out (and obviously you chose to block out), it is clear Mayweather had to have problems hydrating that day.

Remember, the DCO was with him at 1:45, well before the weigh-in.

The DCO obviously saw previous attempts to hydrate by drinking liquid, including that huge jug of water Floyd is seen chugging after the weigh-in (see around the 13:50 mark of video, which also has Manny drinking water)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlQtV6RphI

And let's clarify.

IV's are not against NSAC rules. But, with a TUE, they are also ALLOWED by WADA.

That is what happened here.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 09:07
by Pureist
3. Medical best practice treatment
Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with either medical emergencies or in-patient care.
When an IV infusion is administered to an athlete, the following criteria should be fulfilled:
1. A clearly defined diagnosis.
2. Supportive evidence that no permitted alternative treatment can be
used.
3. The treatment has been ordered by a physician and administered by
qualified medical personnel in an appropriate medical setting. 4. Adequate medical records of the treatment.
The use of IV infusions in sport is commonly linked with rehydration after exhaustive effort, and this situation is arguably the major cause of debate. It must be understood that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild to moderate dehydration is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific evidence to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred therapeutic choice, potentially even more effective than IV infusion.
(Ref: 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16)
A. Name of Prohibited Method
IV infusion or injection of >50 mL per a 6 hour period unless legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations.
B. Recommended Duration
Dependent on diagnosis and on the particular clinical situation, but if the infusion is a single intervention, the TUE should be valid for a relatively short duration.------------------------------ straight out of WADA guidelines book, it's also in USADA guidelines, IV not a recommended way of rehydrating, funny, the DCO mustn't have read the book

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 09:18
by Pureist
koolkc107 wrote:
Pureist wrote:Answer these questions kooli, why hydrate with an IV and not simply drink water, why hydrate with 750 ml when it's against he rules, I train 6 days a week and have never needed an IV to rehydrate, it doesn't matter if it wasn't against NSAC rules, floyd called for Olympic style testing and broke those rules, answer me why he needed to hydrate like that, simple request
Well, as I have already pointed out (and obviously you chose to block out), it is clear Mayweather had to have problems hydrating that day.

Remember, the DCO was with him at 1:45, well before the weigh-in.

The DCO obviously saw previous attempts to hydrate by drinking liquid, including that huge jug of water Floyd is seen chugging after the weigh-in (see around the 13:50 mark of video, which also has Manny drinking water)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlQtV6RphI

And let's clarify.

IV's are not against NSAC rules. But, with a TUE, they are also ALLOWED by WADA.

That is what happened here.
That's funny, when you dry out you become hypoglycaemic so when you drink water your body tries to flush all of the toxins in your body out, that means you pee heaps and don't absorb a great deal, so if he couldn't pee that seems he really wasn't dehydrated

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 09:42
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:
koolkc107 wrote:
Pureist wrote:Answer these questions kooli, why hydrate with an IV and not simply drink water, why hydrate with 750 ml when it's against he rules, I train 6 days a week and have never needed an IV to rehydrate, it doesn't matter if it wasn't against NSAC rules, floyd called for Olympic style testing and broke those rules, answer me why he needed to hydrate like that, simple request
Well, as I have already pointed out (and obviously you chose to block out), it is clear Mayweather had to have problems hydrating that day.

Remember, the DCO was with him at 1:45, well before the weigh-in.

The DCO obviously saw previous attempts to hydrate by drinking liquid, including that huge jug of water Floyd is seen chugging after the weigh-in (see around the 13:50 mark of video, which also has Manny drinking water)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlQtV6RphI

And let's clarify.

IV's are not against NSAC rules. But, with a TUE, they are also ALLOWED by WADA.

That is what happened here.
That's funny, when you dry out you become hypoglycaemic so when you drink water your body tries to flush all of the toxins in your body out, that means you pee heaps and don't absorb a great deal, so if he couldn't pee that seems he really wasn't dehydrated
Wrong again.

And, of course, too easy.

From the Mayo clinic:

Mild to moderate dehydration is likely to cause:

Dry, sticky mouth
Sleepiness or tiredness — children are likely to be less active than usual
Thirst
Decreased urine output
No wet diapers for three hours for infants
Few or no tears when crying
Dry skin
Headache
Constipation
Dizziness or lightheadedness


Severe dehydration, a medical emergency, can cause:

Extreme thirst
Extreme fussiness or sleepiness in infants and children; irritability and confusion in adults
Very dry mouth, skin and mucous membranes
Little or no urination — any urine that is produced will be darker than normal
Sunken eyes
Shriveled and dry skin that lacks elasticity and doesn't "bounce back" when pinched into a fold
In infants, sunken fontanels — the soft spots on the top of a baby's head
Low blood pressure
Rapid heartbeat
Rapid breathing
No tears when crying
Fever
In the most serious cases, delirium or unconsciousness


http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-cond ... n-20030056

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 10:15
by Ricky_
koolkc107 wrote: The DCO obviously saw previous attempts to hydrate by drinking liquid, including that huge jug of water Floyd is seen chugging after the weigh-in (see around the 13:50 mark of video, which also has Manny drinking water)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlQtV6RphI

And let's clarify.


Nice video KooliBrut, i think it's clear evidence of Floyd being medical emergency. I mean look at him, he can barely stand due to the severe dehydration, it's a miracle he never died :lol:





What a fuckin idiot.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 12:19
by koolkc107
Ricky_ wrote:
koolkc107 wrote: The DCO obviously saw previous attempts to hydrate by drinking liquid, including that huge jug of water Floyd is seen chugging after the weigh-in (see around the 13:50 mark of video, which also has Manny drinking water)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQlQtV6RphI

And let's clarify.


Nice video KooliBrut, i think it's clear evidence of Floyd being medical emergency. I mean look at him, he can barely stand due to the severe dehydration, it's a miracle he never died :lol:





What a fuckin idiot.
Don't be so hard on yourself.

Besides, even though your idiocy isn't in question, I
am pretty certain you ain't fuckin anything.

A merciful God would make certain you don't reproduce, Pretty Ricky.

So, what part of the post on dehydration from the Mayo clinic did you miss?

Hint: anyone ONE of those symptoms could indicate dehydration...you don't have to be experiencing all of them.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 12:24
by Ricky_
OK Dr. Brut :TU:



You should write a letter to all the UFC competitors.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/1/888 ... g-mma-news


USADA has come into effect from today enforcing the rules on IV drips <50ml per 6 hours. Fighters are none too happy about it.

Kindly let them know that in fact, it's perfectly ok Dr. Brut, all you have to do is be dehydrated (which is exactly the point clownface).


:lol: :lol: :TU:

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 12:50
by koolkc107
Ricky_ wrote:OK Dr. Brut :TU:



You should write a letter to all the UFC competitors.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/1/888 ... g-mma-news


USADA has come into effect from today enforcing the rules on IV drips <50ml per 6 hours. Fighters are none too happy about it.

Kindly let them know that in fact, it's perfectly ok Dr. Brut, all you have to do is be dehydrated (which is exactly the point clownface).


:lol: :lol: :TU:
If they have exactly the same circumstances, with a DCO on scene to verbally give a TUE- especially in lieu of rigorous CIR testing preceding the occurrence- don't see why an MMA guy would be treated any different.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 15:07
by Ricky_
koolkc107 wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:OK Dr. Brut :TU:



You should write a letter to all the UFC competitors.

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2015/7/1/888 ... g-mma-news


USADA has come into effect from today enforcing the rules on IV drips <50ml per 6 hours. Fighters are none too happy about it.

Kindly let them know that in fact, it's perfectly ok Dr. Brut, all you have to do is be dehydrated (which is exactly the point clownface).


:lol: :lol: :TU:
If they have exactly the same circumstances, with a DCO on scene to verbally give a TUE- especially in lieu of rigorous CIR testing preceding the occurrence- don't see why an MMA guy would be treated any different.
Like i say, write it in a letter, they will be glad to hear it. They dehydrate on purpose to make weight, and they're rather annoyed their IV's are gone. Kindly notify them Dr. Brut, all it takes is a complaint of dehydration to a paid-for USADA officer who'll grant you a secret TUE... and the best part about it is, you're opponent wouldn't even know you had one!

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 01 Oct 2015, 18:47
by Pureist
Kooli do I have to explain everything multiple times to you like a child, of course you have reduced urine when dehydrated but if you look close I said AFTER YOU START DRINKING WATER, please read carefully before shooting from the hip, now I see you didn't mention the WADA guidelines about rehydrating with an IV, how WADA DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT, even they say there is better ways, so why would a DCO do that, do you think he was on the take, that makes sense

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 02 Oct 2015, 06:11
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:Kooli do I have to explain everything multiple times to you like a child, of course you have reduced urine when dehydrated but if you look close I said AFTER YOU START DRINKING WATER, please read carefully before shooting from the hip, now I see you didn't mention the WADA guidelines about rehydrating with an IV, how WADA DO NOT RECOMMEND THAT, even they say there is better ways, so why would a DCO do that, do you think he was on the take, that makes sense
You are going to have to document that.

Show me where it says dehydration means you urinate a lot when you drink water.

And while you are at it, document how any of what happened to Floyd has anything to do with hypoglycemia.

Low blood sugar and low levels of hydration are two different things.

It is clear you are pretty clueless about what happened physically.

Feel free to keep digging the hole for yourself as deep as you like.

Still waiting for you to explain how a cheating Mayweather can pass EVERY CIR test, ones he did not know about in advance.
Still waiting for you to cite a WADA spokesman condemning what happened- wouldn't they if their rules were broken?
Still waiting for you to explain how your opinion is more valid than a professional DCO and a professional paramedic.

Good luck with that.

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 02 Oct 2015, 20:27
by Pureist
http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/ ... eight-ufc/ -----------------------read this ostrich, cir wont pick up EPO after a day or so, floyd has been announcing fights very late, rehydrated with on IV, against what WADA and USADA recommend, against WADA rules with 14 times the limit, did it at his house and has had prevoious red flag T-E ratios, only an imbecile could defend that and say he was clean, WADA hasnt made a comment, dont you think that if they were HAPPY with this situation they would have released a statement saying just that, because they havent said anything suggests they are going to investigate to me, an incident like this making headlines all over the world and NO STATEMENT, a dco going against their recomendations, handing out a TUE for mild at the most dehydration, smell the roses, hes boxings lance armstrong

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 02 Oct 2015, 20:43
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:http://fourhourworkweek.com/2013/05/06/ ... eight-ufc/ -----------------------read this ostrich, cir wont pick up EPO after a day or so, floyd has been announcing fights very late, rehydrated with on IV, against what WADA and USADA recommend, against WADA rules with 14 times the limit, did it at his house and has had prevoious red flag T-E ratios, only an imbecile could defend that and say he was clean, WADA hasnt made a comment, dont you think that if they were HAPPY with this situation they would have released a statement saying just that, because they havent said anything suggests they are going to investigate to me, an incident like this making headlines all over the world and NO STATEMENT, a dco going against their recomendations, handing out a TUE for mild at the most dehydration, smell the roses, hes boxings lance armstrong
Pathetic.

Whatever that is you posted, it doesn't seem to deal with EPO or testosterone, judging by the title.

Floyd has had a ABP with USADA since he started testing beginning with Mosley.

He has had CIR testing which is proven to detect most PEDs, including EPO, HGH, and synthetic testosterone.

That would seem to put the lie to any claims of cheating since anything he has submitted can be retested.

Did you seriously just post an article on cutting weight and try to pass it off to members of this forum as
some proof that the testing is insufficient?

I know I am owning you, but that kind of fudging is too pathetic even for you.

SMH

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 02 Oct 2015, 22:41
by Pureist
I'm sure you have the comprehension of a 4 year old, you asked about the urine and dehydration issue and that explains it, the only defence you use is the dco, you haven't explained anything at all, epo is only picked up for 24 hours, give or take a couple, explain why an IV was used against recommendation, I'm waiting

Re: USADA OWNS HAUSER POINT BY POINT

Posted: 02 Oct 2015, 23:37
by koolkc107
Pureist wrote:I'm sure you have the comprehension of a 4 year old, you asked about the urine and dehydration issue and that explains it, the only defence you use is the dco, you haven't explained anything at all, epo is only picked up for 24 hours, give or take a couple, explain why an IV was used against recommendation, I'm waiting
You have yet to document anything about EPO.

And when you post a link try to have it document whatever it is you are talking about or have the link address a question you have been asked.

That link deals with folks trying to cut 30 pounds in 5 days.
And you proffer that in trying to explain what happened to Mayweather?
Who weighed 150.5 pounds a month before the fight?

The IV was deemed necessary by a trained DCO and a professional paramedic.
Til you crack that, none of your feeble speculation means dick.

And oh yeah, here is something for you to peruse.
It is from the WADA site and deals with ABPs.

Mayweather has had one since his fight with Mosley.
It is comprised of both a hemo and steroid module.

If Mayweather was using EPO or any PED, they'd know it.

https://elb.wada-ama.org/en/questions-a ... l-passport