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Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 05 Feb 2016, 15:47
by Freedom2013
The Revival wrote:Don't know what the Christianity thing has to do with anything, but he's definitely a Prima Donna.
The Christianity thing is obviously fake, Ward just does it for PR purposes.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 05 Feb 2016, 15:50
by gilgamesh
Freedom2013 wrote:The Revival wrote:Don't know what the Christianity thing has to do with anything, but he's definitely a Prima Donna.
The Christianity thing is obviously fake, Ward just does it for PR purposes.
I think he's really a Christian. I think you just overestimate what it means to be a Christian. Slapping the title Christian on yourself doesn't automatically make you holier than thou or one of the best people in the world.
I figure Ward is a good human being, and wouldn't be hard to get along with for most people from what I gather, but he has a sense of entitlement like he thinks he's the biggest star in the sport that is unrealistic. Especially considering he's done basically jack sh*t the last few years.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 05 Feb 2016, 16:51
by ikorolev
http://espn.go.com/blog/dan-rafael/post ... l-not-done
“It is literally a different issue every day,” Duva said. “It’s a wonder that these people can put a four-rounder together.”
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 06 Feb 2016, 19:37
by Freedom2013
The Revival wrote: I think he's really a Christian. I think you just overestimate what it means to be a Christian. Slapping the title Christian on yourself doesn't automatically make you holier than thou or one of the best people in the world.
I figure Ward is a good human being, and wouldn't be hard to get along with for most people from what I gather, but he has a sense of entitlement like he thinks he's the biggest star in the sport that is unrealistic. Especially considering he's done basically jack sh*t the last few years.
Christians don't usually hire convicted felons who give PEDs to athletes like Victor Conte, or have thugs like James Prince as their manager.
James Prince sent his goons to beat up Floyd Mayweather, instead they beat up poor old Leonard Ellerbe so bad he was hospitalized. Link:
https://pound4poundireland.wordpress.co ... es-prince/
The fundamental belief of Christianity is "do onto others they way you would have them do onto you" yet Ward is an extremely selfish individual who lacks integrity and good sportsmanship in his dealings with others.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 07 Feb 2016, 00:49
by sneakyright
Freedom2013 wrote:The Revival wrote:Don't know what the Christianity thing has to do with anything, but he's definitely a Prima Donna.
The Christianity thing is obviously fake, Ward just does it for PR purposes.
These days his Christianity likely hurts him more than helps in terms of pr.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 20:36
by Tarkus
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 09 Feb 2016, 21:57
by Freedom2013
I'm rooting for Sullivan Barrera to somehow beat the selfish prima donna, but the deck will be stacked against him in Ward's hometown of Oakland.
I just hope the California Commission's shady referee Jack Reiss isn't going to be working. He always helps Ward by allowing him to foul, while repeatedly admonishing his opponents for nothing - he's California's version of Texas' Lawrence Cole and the UK's Ian John Lewis.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 10 Feb 2016, 11:40
by Tanzio
Hopefully Barrera will make the most of the opportunity and at minimum be competitive so that he gets more opportunities.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 03:05
by diddy
Freedom2013 wrote:I'm rooting for Sullivan Barrera to somehow beat the selfish prima donna, but the deck will be stacked against him in Ward's hometown of Oakland.
I just hope the California Commission's shady referee Jack Reiss isn't going to be working. He always helps Ward by allowing him to foul, while repeatedly admonishing his opponents for nothing - he's California's version of Texas' Lawrence Cole and the UK's Ian John Lewis.
You're rooting against Ward?! Nooooo!?
Surprise of the century. Sad days around here for some not being able to hold onto the crutch that Ward never fights anymore. What will they lean on next? Ah hell they'll think of something. Something stupid.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 05:00
by keirw
Freedom2013 wrote:The Revival wrote: I think he's really a Christian. I think you just overestimate what it means to be a Christian. Slapping the title Christian on yourself doesn't automatically make you holier than thou or one of the best people in the world.
I figure Ward is a good human being, and wouldn't be hard to get along with for most people from what I gather, but he has a sense of entitlement like he thinks he's the biggest star in the sport that is unrealistic. Especially considering he's done basically jack sh*t the last few years.
Christians don't usually hire convicted felons who give PEDs to athletes like Victor Conte, or have thugs like James Prince as their manager.
Forgiveness is an important part of being a Christian, one who has repented must be shown the Lords light......... And so forth.....
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 13:37
by ikorolev
diddy wrote:Freedom2013 wrote:I'm rooting for Sullivan Barrera to somehow beat the selfish prima donna, but the deck will be stacked against him in Ward's hometown of Oakland.
I just hope the California Commission's shady referee Jack Reiss isn't going to be working. He always helps Ward by allowing him to foul, while repeatedly admonishing his opponents for nothing - he's California's version of Texas' Lawrence Cole and the UK's Ian John Lewis.
You're rooting against Ward?! Nooooo!?
Surprise of the century. Sad days around here for some not being able to hold onto the crutch that Ward never fights anymore. What will they lean on next? Ah hell they'll think of something. Something stupid.
Don't forget about Ward's knee. It can still swell. If it doesn't, but he doesn't look good against Barrera, it can still swell before the Kovalev fight.
Re: Andre Ward vs. Sullivan Barrera Mar 26 on HBO
Posted: 11 Feb 2016, 14:39
by Freedom2013
keirw wrote:Forgiveness is an important part of being a Christian, one who has repented must be shown the Lords light......... And so forth.....
Jesus said "Go forth and sin no more", but Ward still works with James Prince.
Here Victor Conte explains how to cheat by avoiding PED testing at certain times
Are cheating and lying something a Christian would continue to do?
"God hates a lying tongue" - Proverbs
"Be honest in your dealings and be respectful toward all others" - Saint Paul
"He who exalts himself will be humbled, he who humbles himself will be exalted" - Jesus Christ, the REAL Son of God.
Here someone explains how Ward has been cheating with PEDs during his pro career