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Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 09:22
by jamesmcdonnell
freddydoesdallas wrote:All seems very strange this set up. Fury openly talking about not being up for it, not heard from Wlad, only in a 20,000 seater indoor arena etc
This is the biggest fight in Britain since either Hatton v Tszyu or Calzaghe v Kessler. On top of that it is a re-match!
I know the first one was a bit gun-shy but it still has all the ingredients for it to explode
A BIT!!
I've seen two quadriplegics put on a more game effort, and one of them had a flat tire.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 09:35
by freddydoesdallas
the_doctor wrote:freddydoesdallas wrote:All seems very strange this set up. Fury openly talking about not being up for it, not heard from Wlad, only in a 20,000 seater indoor arena etc
This is the biggest fight in Britain since either Hatton v Tszyu or Calzaghe v Kessler. On top of that it is a re-match!
I know the first one was a bit gun-shy but it still has all the ingredients for it to explode
The general public aren't interested.
People don't like Fury because of some of the comments he's made in the recent past, they find Wlad's style boring and to top it off the first fight was fairly uneventful with barely a punch thrown by either man. Plus it's on a channel the overwhelming majority don't have access to and many won't have even heard of.
I'm aware "casuals" are viewed in a similar light to murderers and paeodphiles on here but ultimately
they are the ones that decide whether a fight is worthy of PPV/huge stadium/24h attention etc.
And rightly so
joking aside, even though i agree with everything you say about it, i still would have thought that this would have taken off more. It is 'the' heavyweight championship of the world after all and no division gets attention like it. Hell, Audley used to generate a buzz fighting Danny Williams and Michael Sprott for domestic and even Prizefight titles!
The general public can usually be sold that a fighter is world class even if he uses dungarees to hold his trunks up let alone a belt these days, i just find it astonishing that they've not really tried to force it on the public
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 09:39
by MarkMcBurney
keithmoonhangover wrote:Why is this fight only at the MEN?
Does it not fill Wembley?
Wembley? I bet you a pound they don't even fill the MEN.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 09:43
by willardx
Fury says he's weighing in at 24 stone and isnt bovvered-??????? mind games????? he looks pretty heavy
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 09:58
by MacTavish
freddydoesdallas wrote:the_doctor wrote:freddydoesdallas wrote:All seems very strange this set up. Fury openly talking about not being up for it, not heard from Wlad, only in a 20,000 seater indoor arena etc
This is the biggest fight in Britain since either Hatton v Tszyu or Calzaghe v Kessler. On top of that it is a re-match!
I know the first one was a bit gun-shy but it still has all the ingredients for it to explode
The general public aren't interested.
People don't like Fury because of some of the comments he's made in the recent past, they find Wlad's style boring and to top it off the first fight was fairly uneventful with barely a punch thrown by either man. Plus it's on a channel the overwhelming majority don't have access to and many won't have even heard of.
I'm aware "casuals" are viewed in a similar light to murderers and paeodphiles on here but ultimately
they are the ones that decide whether a fight is worthy of PPV/huge stadium/24h attention etc.
And rightly so
joking aside, even though i agree with everything you say about it, i still would have thought that this would have taken off more. It is 'the' heavyweight championship of the world after all and no division gets attention like it. Hell, Audley used to generate a buzz fighting Danny Williams and Michael Sprott for domestic and even Prizefight titles!
The general public can usually be sold that a fighter is world class even if he uses dungarees to hold his trunks up let alone a belt these days, i just find it astonishing that they've not really tried to force it on the public
There is no buz cos its months away and also because one of the fighters bascially hasn't even acknoleged the fight is taking place yet!
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Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 10:04
by Rexob
willardx wrote:Fury says he's weighing in at 24 stone and isnt bovvered-??????? mind games????? he looks pretty heavy
He's been on the weights and is gonna go toe to toe with Klit and see who comes out on top.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 10:06
by Rexob
MarkMcBurney wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Why is this fight only at the MEN?
Does it not fill Wembley?
Wembley? I bet you a pound they don't even fill the MEN.
I 'll be going to see the real champs destruction of the former great heavyweight champion again.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 10:12
by MarkMcBurney
Rexob wrote:MarkMcBurney wrote:keithmoonhangover wrote:Why is this fight only at the MEN?
Does it not fill Wembley?
Wembley? I bet you a pound they don't even fill the MEN.
I 'll be going to see the real champs destruction of the former great heavyweight champion again.
Yep, and funds permitting I'd like to go, but in the UK, right now, this isn't a mega fight for the casuals and you need the casuals to sell 20k plus, IMO.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 10:39
by Rexob
MarkMcBurney wrote:Rexob wrote:MarkMcBurney wrote:
Wembley? I bet you a pound they don't even fill the MEN.
I 'll be going to see the real champs destruction of the former great heavyweight champion again.
Yep, and funds permitting I'd like to go, but in the UK, right now, this isn't a mega fight for the casuals and you need the casuals to sell 20k plus, IMO.
I bet the place will be sold out.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 10:41
by MarkMcBurney
Rexob wrote:MarkMcBurney wrote:Rexob wrote:
I 'll be going to see the real champs destruction of the former great heavyweight champion again.
Yep, and funds permitting I'd like to go, but in the UK, right now, this isn't a mega fight for the casuals and you need the casuals to sell 20k plus, IMO.
I bet the place will be sold out.
Time will tell
(There were a fair few empty seats at The O2 on Saturday BTW, StubHub obviously didn't shift every ticket.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:35
by jamesmcdonnell
Rexob wrote:willardx wrote:Fury says he's weighing in at 24 stone and isnt bovvered-??????? mind games????? he looks pretty heavy
He's been on the weights and is gonna go toe to toe with Klit and see who comes out on top.
Could all be kidology.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:46
by Rexob
jamesmcdonnell wrote:Rexob wrote:willardx wrote:Fury says he's weighing in at 24 stone and isnt bovvered-??????? mind games????? he looks pretty heavy
He's been on the weights and is gonna go toe to toe with Klit and see who comes out on top.
Could all be kidology.
Not with Tyson he means every word of it.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 11:47
by jamesmcdonnell
Rexob wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Rexob wrote:
He's been on the weights and is gonna go toe to toe with Klit and see who comes out on top.
Could all be kidology.
Not with Tyson he means every word of it.
How do you know?
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 15:05
by Sklar
Rexob wrote:jamesmcdonnell wrote:Rexob wrote:
He's been on the weights and is gonna go toe to toe with Klit and see who comes out on top.
Could all be kidology.
Not with Tyson he means every word of it.

Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 15:16
by Monte Fisto
I have a horrible feeling the Klit gets a KO win.
If not, he loses in a wide decision i think.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 16:18
by lillywhite14
Fury showed against Wlad he is a good defensive fighter. He isn't going toe to toe when he doesn't need to. It's amusing hearing people say Zwoad didn't tr or didn't want to throw etc, he couldn't hit Tyson, that was his problem. Combination of Wlads advanced years and Tyson's awkwardness and head movement
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 16:21
by jamesmcdonnell
lillywhite14 wrote:Fury showed against Wlad he is a good defensive fighter. He isn't going toe to toe when he doesn't need to. It's amusing hearing people say Zwoad didn't tr or didn't want to throw etc, he couldn't hit Tyson, that was his problem. Combination of Wlads advanced years and Tyson's awkwardness and head movement
Yeah, I don't believe a word of it. He'd be asking for it if he traded with Wlad, and he knows it.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 14 Apr 2016, 17:07
by rd350lc
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 04:40
by MacTavish
Just a thought - do you think that Fury could / has stipulated a rematch clause of his own should he lose to Wlad this time out? Or is that not possible?
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 04:57
by rossij8
mullenman wrote:Why are they having it on this day
Too much sport already on
Imagine England in euro final the arena would be empty
The final is normally on a Sunday (10th)
and world cup
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 05:04
by jamesmcdonnell
MacTavish wrote:Just a thought - do you think that Fury could / has stipulated a rematch clause of his own should he lose to Wlad this time out? Or is that not possible?
Possible. If the 2nd fight was a more exciting affair and Wlad won, it's surely a no-brainer.
If Tyson wins easy again, then obviously they'd just forget it about. Well you'd hope so.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 06:09
by Rob3_142
MacTavish wrote:Rob3_142 wrote:I just don't understand why there is a press conference, or any press conference, making an official announcement of the fight, the date, the broadcasting platform, and Klitchko isn't there. Has anyone heard from him, interviewed him, got a statement from him?!
Yeah - does seem a bit odd. I'm still not 100& convinced this will ever happen - still have the hotel booked (on reserve) - anyone know when tickets might go on sale?
Apparently there will be an official press conference with Klitchko in a few weeks.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 15 Apr 2016, 07:34
by stujones
Klitchsko did post a clip of him training "for fury" after the announcement was made.... but for someone who is so used to social media it is a bit odd he hasn't done a vlog (I think thats the term) for this.
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 08:33
by wesshaw1985
Presser is live on allegedly.com today -
http://www.allegedly.com/
Re: Tyson Fury (c) vs. Wladimir Klitschko 2 - July 9th 2016
Posted: 27 Apr 2016, 09:09
by wesshaw1985