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Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 00:55
by Lancenix
Lancenix wrote:Ricky_ wrote:Lancenix wrote:I really think though that as time goes on Pacman is more of a one handed fighter just like he was early in his career at times. He relies on almost the left exclusively for all his meaningful punches.
His right hook is lightning fast.
It does not have much on it anymore and he did not throw it much. So much so that in the 6th Max asked Roach if it was injured. Roach said no. Then why was he not throwing it? He just wasnt try to watch the fight so I do not have to explain everything to you.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 00:55
by Lancenix
Lancenix wrote:Lancenix wrote:Ricky_ wrote:
His right hook is lightning fast.
It does not have much on it anymore and he did not throw it much. So much so that in the 6th Max asked Roach if it was injured. Roach said no. Then why was he not throwing it? He just wasnt try to watch the fight so I do not have to explain everything to you.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 01:27
by Dancin' Dan
Now Bradley is a B level fighter.... Don't know why I am responding to a troll what a waste of time. Talk about knowing nothing about the game....and there are a good deal of folks on here who have fought, managed or promoted. Your disrespect speaks volumes that you haven't done none of the above. It is fun to disagree....but you don't even make sense. Revision of history.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 01:35
by TheBeast
Full Card (including all undercards) here:
http://www.the13thround.com/phpBB2/view ... &start=225
Some nice results!! Ponomarev won a clear decision vs Solomon which i thought was impressive. Mohammedi getting put out cold was also very very impressive (although Thierry Karl had done it before...).
ENJOY!!
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 01:38
by Lancenix
Dancin' Dan wrote:Now Bradley is a B level fighter.... Don't know why I am responding to a troll what a waste of time. Talk about knowing nothing about the game....and there are a good deal of folks on here who have fought, managed or promoted. Your disrespect speaks volumes that you haven't done none of the above. It is fun to disagree....but you don't even make sense. Revision of history.
You are a dumbass who simply does not understand the game. Would you like to go over all of Bradley's fights at 147? And then go over all the fighters at 147 one by one?? because at the end of that you will feel really dumb. Bradley also had a draw with Diego Chaves. shhhhhhhh And by the way I have been in the ring. Not too many here have been actually so once again you are talking out of you ass.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:04
by Pureist
Can't knock him with names like Marquez, casamayor, Peterson, Vargas, Alexander and pacquaio on his resume, I'd have him top 5, mayweather said pacquaio was his hardest fight in an interview, very hard to Match up with pacquaio due to his style
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:24
by Lackeos
Lancenix wrote:Bradley does not beat any of these guys.
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
Bradley does not beat ANY of those guys. If you have Bradley in the top 5 you dont know boxing. Period.
Bradley has actual real wins over Vargas and Peterson. So let's be very clear about this... you're a f*cking idiot.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:36
by BAD INTENTIONS
Bradley is still #2 at 147.
He can beat any fighter except Manny.
I don't know why he's being so underrated.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:39
by Lancenix
Lackeos wrote:Lancenix wrote:Bradley does not beat any of these guys.
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
Bradley does not beat ANY of those guys. If you have Bradley in the top 5 you dont know boxing. Period.
Bradley has actual real wins over Vargas and Peterson. So let's be very clear about this... you're a f*cking idiot.
You are a fornicating idiot. Peterson was at 140 he barely made scales. Bradley lost to Pacman 3 times 1 gift decision and had a draw against Diego Chaves so STFU!!
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:39
by Lancenix
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Bradley is still #2 at 147.
He can beat any fighter except Manny.
I don't know why he's being so underrated.
That is a joke. Brook and Spence beat him easy. He had a draw against Chaves. LOL
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:44
by Lancenix
Pureist wrote:Can't knock him with names like Marquez, casamayor, Peterson, Vargas, Alexander and pacquaio on his resume, I'd have him top 5, mayweather said pacquaio was his hardest fight in an interview, very hard to Match up with pacquaio due to his style
Mayweather is full of it seeing as that he lost in many people's minds to JLC in their first fight. And Mayweather also had a much tougher fight against maidana.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 02:59
by dberry
Lancenix wrote:Bradley just is not that good. He is not even in my top 10 in the division. But Pac is still really quick.
I like that Bradley comes across as a good guy, he is very fit and clearly is a genuine athlete, he can box and defends himself well but he can't fight, he is ineffective and runs too much. I've been actively involved with the fight game for some 28 years and I tell you, fifteen years ago Marquez won most rounds against Bradley and he should have got the decision the day they fought. The insidious way that the bullshit way the amateurs have been scored since RHJ's disgracefull robbery in Seoul has infiltrated the pro ranks is disgracefull! Throw a hundred punches to the gloves and in fresh air while on the back foot and you should lose the round, it's an ineffective waste while being dominated.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 03:05
by dberry
Lancenix wrote:Lackeos wrote:Lancenix wrote:Bradley does not beat any of these guys.
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
Bradley does not beat ANY of those guys. If you have Bradley in the top 5 you dont know boxing. Period.
Bradley has actual real wins over Vargas and Peterson. So let's be very clear about this... you're a f*cking idiot.
You are a effing idiot. Peterson was at 140 he barely made scales. Bradley lost to Pacman 3 times 1 gift decision and had a draw against Diego Chaves so STFU!!
Mate, I agree with most of your posts and with your oppinion that Bradley is overrated but to belittle Chaves, really!? I really like the guy and think that he'd be a world beater with a good manager and promoter behind him, the guy is good!
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 03:29
by davie
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
He's obviously behind Pacquiao, he deserves to be behind Thurman, Garcia, Brook and i would fancy that 3 to beat Bradley in a difficult fight.
Spence hasn't earned the right to rank ahead of him but would likely beat him too.
Khan? I think Bradleys style might pose problems but without the KO power it's unlikely he beats Khan and they both have solid resumes, they rank about the same.
Porter? that would be a good fight, I'd tip Bradley in that one.
Peterson, Vargas, Vasquez, Broner?
Just no, not in terms of ranking or in the ring.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 03:38
by BAD INTENTIONS
Lancenix wrote:BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Bradley is still #2 at 147.
He can beat any fighter except Manny.
I don't know why he's being so underrated.
That is a joke. Brook and Spence beat him easy. He had a draw against Chaves. LOL
Manny didn't beat Bradley easily. Brook and Spence couldn't.
If you're using the Chaves fight as evidence, you didn't see the fight. Bradley won.
I think he proved he was legit by dominating 140, then beating JMM more convincing than Manny ever did.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 03:39
by man
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Bradley is still #2 at 147.
He can beat any fighter except Manny.
I don't know why he's being so underrated.
he has everything but power and
in boxing that is hard to forgive.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 03:47
by Purse Bid Shakedown
davie wrote:Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
He's obviously behind Pacquiao, he deserves to be behind Thurman, Garcia, Brook and i would fancy that 3 to beat Bradley in a difficult fight.
Spence hasn't earned the right to rank ahead of him but would likely beat him too.
Khan? I think Bradleys style might pose problems but without the KO power it's unlikely he beats Khan and they both have solid resumes, they rank about the same.
Porter? that would be a good fight, I'd tip Bradley in that one.
Peterson, Vargas, Vasquez, Broner?
Just no, not in terms of ranking or in the ring.
His Marquez and Vargas wins are much better than anything those guys have done at welter. Heck they're better than their top 2 wins collectively
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 04:36
by Monte Fisto
Lancenix wrote:Bradley does not beat any of these guys.
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
Bradley does not beat ANY of those guys. If you have Bradley in the top 5 you dont know boxing. Period.
can someone move this to off topic and into the joke thread??
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 04:54
by Ricky_
95gerog wrote:Lancenix wrote:Bradley does not beat any of these guys.
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
Bradley does not beat ANY of those guys. If you have Bradley in the top 5 you dont know boxing. Period.
can someone move this to off topic and into the joke thread??
Starting to think we've uncovered a Brut here.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 05:02
by amwsnw
Bradley beats most on that list as they are not as aggressive and busy as manny. Against the majority of those guys Tim would look "mannyesque."
Really enjoyed the fight today by two top class fighters.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 06:07
by Ricky_
amwsnw wrote:Bradley beats most on that list as they are not as aggressive and busy as manny. Against the majority of those guys Tim would look "mannyesque."
Really enjoyed the fight today by two top class fighters.
It was much better than the first 2!
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 06:32
by Pureist
Lancenix wrote:Pureist wrote:Can't knock him with names like Marquez, casamayor, Peterson, Vargas, Alexander and pacquaio on his resume, I'd have him top 5, mayweather said pacquaio was his hardest fight in an interview, very hard to Match up with pacquaio due to his style
Mayweather is full of it seeing as that he lost in many people's minds to JLC in their first fight. And Mayweather also had a much tougher fight against maidana.
Mayweather said that HIMSELF, so how would you know better than him about his hardest fight, he lost easily to Castillo, but how does that change who Bradley has fought and the fact that you said he wouldn't beat anyone on YOUR list when in reality he has already beat a couple, you've made yourself look like an imbecile
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 09:01
by Lancenix
Pureist wrote:Lancenix wrote:Pureist wrote:Can't knock him with names like Marquez, casamayor, Peterson, Vargas, Alexander and pacquaio on his resume, I'd have him top 5, mayweather said pacquaio was his hardest fight in an interview, very hard to Match up with pacquaio due to his style
Mayweather is full of it seeing as that he lost in many people's minds to JLC in their first fight. And Mayweather also had a much tougher fight against maidana.
Mayweather said that HIMSELF, so how would you know better than him about his hardest fight, he lost easily to Castillo, but how does that change who Bradley has fought and the fact that you said he wouldn't beat anyone on YOUR list when in reality he has already beat a couple, you've made yourself look like an imbecile
He did not beat Peterson at 147 and Vargas wins that rematch. Anyway if you think Bradley is top 5 in the division you do not know boxing. Plain and simple. Also you have to tjrow in the fact that he is an American and Americans doi not have much to hold on to these days.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 09:03
by Lancenix
95gerog wrote:Lancenix wrote:Bradley does not beat any of these guys.
Pacman
Thurman
Garcia
Porter
Broner
Brook
Vazquez
Kahn
Vargas
peterson
Spence
Bradley does not beat ANY of those guys. If you have Bradley in the top 5 you dont know boxing. Period.
can someone move this to off topic and into the joke thread??
If you think Bradley is top 5 in that division then you don't know boxing.
Re: Manny Pacquiao vs Timothly Bradley III
Posted: 10 Apr 2016, 09:05
by Lancenix
BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Lancenix wrote:BAD INTENTIONS wrote:Bradley is still #2 at 147.
He can beat any fighter except Manny.
I don't know why he's being so underrated.
That is a joke. Brook and Spence beat him easy. He had a draw against Chaves. LOL
Manny didn't beat Bradley easily. Brook and Spence couldn't.
If you're using the Chaves fight as evidence, you didn't see the fight. Bradley won.
I think he proved he was legit by dominating 140, then beating JMM more convincing than Manny ever did.
What has Bradley done at 147?? Besides nothing. Let us talk about his career at WW. because that is what he is being ranked at here. 3 losses to manny and a draw to Chaves. He beat Vargas but I do not think he wins a rematch. He is an American and that is all he has going for him. He is not that good.