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Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 08:18
by rd350lc
PredatorHayds wrote:
rd350lc wrote:
Ricky_ wrote:Tough call. Fury wouldn't be able to withstand AJ's shots and i'm not sure he could get away with the same dreadful tactics. I think AJ will find his Holyfield soon, not sure it's fury though.
Realistically who out there at moment would that be though ?
Usyk maybe in 2-3 years time?
Good shout :TU:

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 30 Apr 2017, 08:35
by wesshaw1985
Odds today -

Joshua = 19/29
Fury = 23/10

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 06:52
by Rob3_142
hagler81 wrote:We all have our opinions. Fury is a clever Heavyweight, quick hands, he has that good movement and really confused Vlad. Yet Fury gets all this hate still for not going to fight but then neither did Vlad. Fury outboxed him. Fury will do the same to AJ. I don't recall too many people calling Ali's win over Foreman a fluke. They said the rope a dope was genius. Because it was Ali. Fury has his detractors as now does AJ, it makes an interesting fight but I see Fury winning, just not sure he is the best Heavy in the division.
Yeah but Ali was able to back up that win with a dozen world title defences. I'm sure there was some people at the time that perhaps suggested there was an element of fluke about Ali's achievements at the time, but because it was backed up, nobody questions it. Also, Fury was so much long odds against Wlad, it was unexpected. Going into that George Foreman fight, Ali was already world champion, and had 40+ fights under his belt.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 07:10
by Boxerbeetle
dirk2686 wrote:
CiganoBoxer wrote:After last night big Tyson couldn't of seen better motivation to get back in shape ,i had AJ down by 2 rounds busting a gut when he stopped Wlad , fury weather you like how he fights or not made it look much easier and against bigger odds stacked against him to .
Different sort of fight though. Styles make them; I had Floyd winning a shutout against Canelo and scraping barely past Maidana in a fight that really could have been a draw. I still think prime Canelo absolutely destroys prime Maidana.

Wlad was either going to have to end up throwing shots at Joshua or just caving in. Fury was never going to try and get rid of Wlad so it ends up a totally different fight. But the big questions regarding Joshua, (chin, ability to recover when hurt, engine) now have far more positives about them. The issue for Joshua last night was Wlad's power and he took it; Fury may be many things but he's absolutely nowhere near as powerful as Wlad.
Yep true. And at the end of the day, Fury stunk the joint out, barely landed a notable punch all night and scraped through on an extremely tight points decision. Joshua may have struggled more, but that's because he came out and had a proper fight, scored 3 knockdowns and didn't need to rely on the judges.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 07:23
by dirk2686
Not that they tell the full story by any means, but the punch stats for Joshua Klitschko provide an interesting contrast to the Wlad Fury fight.

Wlad was clearly fighting a very different fight. He threw 137 power punches in ten and a bit rounds compared to the 69 he threw against Fury.

http://www.BS.com/anthony-josh ... ts--116148

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:2012278

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 08:06
by Rob3_142
dirk2686 wrote:Not that they tell the full story by any means, but the punch stats for Joshua Klitschko provide an interesting contrast to the Wlad Fury fight.

Wlad was clearly fighting a very different fight. He threw 137 power punches in ten and a bit rounds compared to the 69 he threw against Fury.

http://www.BS.com/anthony-josh ... ts--116148

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:2012278
A very interesting read. I think it also shows that overall, Joshua probably justified edging the first 10 rounds on points.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 08:09
by lefty
dirk2686 wrote:Not that they tell the full story by any means, but the punch stats for Joshua Klitschko provide an interesting contrast to the Wlad Fury fight.

Wlad was clearly fighting a very different fight. He threw 137 power punches in ten and a bit rounds compared to the 69 he threw against Fury.


http://www.BS.com/anthony-josh ... ts--116148

http://boxrec.com/media/index.php?title=Fight:2012278
How much of that was due to Fury constantly moving against Wlad and the latter not being able to set himself against Fury to throw though?

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 08:12
by lefty
Fury-Klitschko kinda reminded me of Crawford-Postol. Crawford did it in better fashion but those Ukrainian-eastern european jab heavy styles dont tend to fare well against a moving target.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 08:22
by Counter-puncher
IT wrote:Fury-Klitschko kinda reminded me of Crawford-Postol. Crawford did it in better fashion but those Ukrainian-eastern european jab heavy styles dont tend to fare well against a moving target.
Good point. Also against switch-hitting/southpaws. I predicted Crawford would take Postols jab away from him that way :TU:

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 08:29
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:
IT wrote:Fury-Klitschko kinda reminded me of Crawford-Postol. Crawford did it in better fashion but those Ukrainian-eastern european jab heavy styles dont tend to fare well against a moving target.
Good point. Also against switch-hitting/southpaws. I predicted Crawford would take Postols jab away from him that way :TU:
Yeah that's a good point aswell.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 08:54
by Counter-puncher
I say it every time a jab-first dude fights a southpaw. They pretty much all look awful. Burns looks like someone three levels lower than he is/was.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 01 May 2017, 09:09
by lefty
Counter-puncher wrote:I say it every time a jab-first dude fights a southpaw. They pretty much all look awful. Burns looks like someone three levels lower than he is/was.
Im guessing it depends on the type of southpaw aswell? Im thinking back to when Wlad fought Chagaev for instance. He didnt have much trouble there.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 08 May 2017, 06:11
by wesshaw1985
Tyson Fury: Hearn Set Aside Wembley For Joshua Fight in April - See more at: http://www.BS.com/tyson-fury-h ... SEUrd.dpuf

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 10 May 2017, 05:06
by wesshaw1985
Joshua's Former Trainer Reveals Details of Fury Sparring Session - See more at: http://www.BS.com/joshua-forme ... sXgVq.dpuf

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 01:54
by kostandinooo
Joshua will kick Fury's ass.....Fury is a professional and a beast boxer but Joshua is better and more stronger...i think the match between them will last until round 6!!!...GLORYJoshua

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 03:02
by BitPlayer
Rob3_142 wrote:
hagler81 wrote:We all have our opinions. Fury is a clever Heavyweight, quick hands, he has that good movement and really confused Vlad. Yet Fury gets all this hate still for not going to fight but then neither did Vlad. Fury outboxed him. Fury will do the same to AJ. I don't recall too many people calling Ali's win over Foreman a fluke. They said the rope a dope was genius. Because it was Ali. Fury has his detractors as now does AJ, it makes an interesting fight but I see Fury winning, just not sure he is the best Heavy in the division.
Yeah but Ali was able to back up that win with a dozen world title defences. I'm sure there was some people at the time that perhaps suggested there was an element of fluke about Ali's achievements at the time, but because it was backed up, nobody questions it. Also, Fury was so much long odds against Wlad, it was unexpected. Going into that George Foreman fight, Ali was already world champion, and had 40+ fights under his belt.
People still expected Foreman to destory Ali.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 03:03
by BitPlayer
kostandinooo wrote:Joshua will kick Fury's ass.....Fury is a professional and a beast boxer but Joshua is better and more stronger...i think the match between them will last until round 6!!!...GLORYJoshua
Well I did think Fury was going to win, but this excellent argument has changed my mind.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 03 Jun 2017, 03:04
by SaadOffTheDeck
I think George was like a 3/1 favorite, Liston was a much bigger upset.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 16:30
by wesshaw1985

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 18:37
by Nightmare Roy
These call outs are a bit silly, Joshua has made it clear he wants the fight, he's waiting for Fury to get match fit.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 19:14
by gobbles
If the question was who wins if they fight now, then obviously it's Joshua. If Fury can get back to being the man who beat Klitschko, that's a different matter. But right now, that man's a distant memory.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 19:28
by crusader
Hard for me not to go with AJ given what's happened to Fury.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 20 Jun 2017, 19:33
by CaptainSpacerod
He's still got a sore throat.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 21 Jun 2017, 01:10
by samwbr
Furys paranoia not easing up.

Re: WHO WINS? Tyson Fury vs. Anthony Joshua

Posted: 21 Jun 2017, 02:10
by Andrew