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119-109 for me,I quite enjoyed that despite my wide score,Gutknecht had his moments early on mostly with single shots as Groves got silly again by trying to exchange and there was a couple of times I thought he was a split second away from getting nailed like he did in the Froch rematch,he really leaves that left hand low especially when unloading his own right hand,second half of the fight he was excellent I thought,he really broke Gutknecht up and I've never seen him look so beaten up before,by the 11th he looked one big shot away from being stopped from the ref or a towel

Groves has one move. Its the jab and overhand right made for a German fighter with a high guard. I cant see him being a "real" world champion.

Boxing Prospect wrote:

rossij8 wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:
Eddy being bang average, and not having more than 7 rounds of stamina doesn't mean that Groves looked good. For the first 4 rounds Groves looked terrible, last 4 he looked alright against a 1-eyed guy who looked like he was coming down in weight and could only do 7 rounds at a decent pace. There was no killer instinct at all from Grove who was pedestrian when Gutknecht was looking buggered and fighting 1-eyed for 4 rounds.

Why was he one eyed?

Cos he kept getting hit there, doesn't change the fact Groves never showed the finishing instinct to try and finish him in the 4 rounds he was figthing with 1 eye, instead he fought at a pedestrian and comfortable pace and looked happy to go the distance rather than hunt a decisive finishing moment.

Do you think Degale would have stopped him or a similar type of fight?

Selby's footwork is really entertaining to watch, its almost impudent. Certainly a bit cheeky at least.

rd350lc wrote:[quote="Boxing Prospect]

It makes me laugh when people quote a 2 time world title challenger bang average

Groves had a Fantastic jab , didn't crumble under pressure, lost 3 rounds max against an opponant that would give any decent SM a hard night .
some people are never happy

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Plenty of crap 2-time world title challengers, especially in this era of 4 world titles (i.e. Richie Mepranum, heck Zou Shiming is a world champion and is terrible professional, Chonlatarn Piriyapinyo, Paul Smith)

If Gutknecht would be a hard night for Smith, DeGale or Ramirez then the division is flat on it's arse at the moment.

rossij8 wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:

rossij8 wrote:
Why was he one eyed?

Cos he kept getting hit there, doesn't change the fact Groves never showed the finishing instinct to try and finish him in the 4 rounds he was figthing with 1 eye, instead he fought at a pedestrian and comfortable pace and looked happy to go the distance rather than hunt a decisive finishing moment.

Do you think Degale would have stopped him or a similar type of fight?

Problem with Degale is that he's so inconsistent, I think he COULD have stopped Steiglitz in a similar fight...or spent 4 rounds doing nothing and frustrating everyone who would have said "same old DegGale, switches off for half a fight" as we see almost every time he's in the ring

ginty wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:

rossij8 wrote:
Why was he one eyed?

Cos he kept getting hit there, doesn't change the fact Groves never showed the finishing instinct to try and finish him in the 4 rounds he was figthing with 1 eye, instead he fought at a pedestrian and comfortable pace and looked happy to go the distance rather than hunt a decisive finishing moment.

he got stopped trying to do that to froch! it's called learning he didn't punch himself out which is a smarter way to fight

In which fight was Froch fighting 1 eyed and looking completely spent?

Can't see how this is advancing Selby's career. What kind of a challenge is this guy bringing to the fight? There's nothing for Selby to work out. There's nothing.

Boxing Prospect wrote:

ginty wrote:

Boxing Prospect wrote:
Cos he kept getting hit there, doesn't change the fact Groves never showed the finishing instinct to try and finish him in the 4 rounds he was figthing with 1 eye, instead he fought at a pedestrian and comfortable pace and looked happy to go the distance rather than hunt a decisive finishing moment.

he got stopped trying to do that to froch! it's called learning he didn't punch himself out which is a smarter way to fight

In which fight was Froch fighting 1 eyed and looking completely spent?

Taylor ?

Impressive skills from Selby

Neil Gee wrote:Impressive skills from Selby

Yeah, i could happily spend an hour just watching him shadowbox, his footwork is blindingly virtuoso.

All Jake Bornea has going for him in this fight is his toughness.

Frampton always comes across so well, mcguigan always used to say what a good young man as well as fighter he was, and it seems he's right, Frampton seems a classy dude.

jaymitch81 wrote:

Stuarty30 wrote:

jaymitch81 wrote:
Not strictly true is it? I take each comment as it comes. GG has been berated on here many times and I don't comment. I just feel that if someone makes a claim of liking or disliking a boxer it's genuinely interesting to know what that boxer does to make someone like or not like them. In some boxers it's obvious but in GG I personally just don't see it. Maybe I have rose tinted glasses on...

You're bound to have your rose tinted glasses on with you being a relation and all

Nah I'm kidding mate. My comment was tongue in cheek because you have dug me up a couple of times over GG comments

It's all good mate. Everyone entitled to there opinion regardless of whether we agree with them.

I know mate. I've read a few of your other posts and you're a good poster man. I just talk pish

Counter-puncher wrote:Frampton always comes across so well, mcguigan always used to say what a good young man as well as fighter he was, and it seems he's right, Frampton seems a classy dude.

He's my favourite fighter

Channel 5 coverage not that bad all in all. It was bad in the Haye fights but maybe that's because they ended very early? They didn't know what to do with the free time?

handsofstone wrote:Thought all the undercard fights were great

Nice card

Neil Gee wrote:Channel 5 coverage not that bad all in all. It was bad in the Haye fights but maybe that's because they ended very early?

Weren't the haye fights on Dave?

Counter-puncher wrote:

Neil Gee wrote:Channel 5 coverage not that bad all in all. It was bad in the Haye fights but maybe that's because they ended very early?

Weren't the haye fights on Dave?

I'm getting out of here. Obviously I've had too many.

If your memory's worse than mine you've got issues, Neil