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Over 80,000 tickets sold - http://www.BS.com/joshua-vs-kl ... ld--112709

Katie Taylor on the undercard - http://www.BS.com/katie-taylor ... bs--112711

Autobarn wrote:

dirk2686 wrote:Whilst it's fine to say the level of opposition Joshua has faced hasn't been great, the same can be said of Fury before he fought Wlad. It's a bit of a non point really; if general consensus is he needs to step up, his lack of top level experience is a given when he actually does.

Great point.

Fury had to face Chisora and McDermott twice apiece to beat them decisively, and had been down or hurt versus Pakjk and Firtha, and was even facing cruiserweight Cunningham! By these standards it's impossible that he beat Wlad. Perhaps we shouldn't trust our eyes.

People do approach fights in literal minded fashion, "I didn't see him do it, so he can't do it" - when the same thing applies to so many fighters prior to them stepping up and succeeding. "He didn't develop, because he didn't fight good enough opposition in their prime!" When in fact everything is in a state of constant flux, anything possible.

Fury did not beat McDermott decisively in their first fight by any stretch of the imagination.

Most thought he lost that fight .

Just shows what can be achieved , but to me Joshua has never really looked in any serious trouble since turning pro .

Has anyone heard the rumour about Daniel Dubois koing Joshua in sparring? Add that to the Price sparring story and you would imagine Josh is chinny.

He doesn't fight like a chinny fighter though, goes for the KO when he sees it...and hasn't been troubled as a pro or as an experienced amateur.

Anyway I was wondering if there was any likely truth to the Dubois session?

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone heard the rumour about Daniel Dubois koing Joshua in sparring? Add that to the Price sparring story and you would imagine Josh is chinny.

He doesn't fight like a chinny fighter though, goes for the KO when he sees it...and hasn't been troubled as a pro or as an experienced amateur.

Anyway I was wondering if there was any likely truth to the Dubois session?

Whyte had him hurt in their fight and he's not a particularly big puncher at the weight.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit. Maybe he'll be like Price in that if someone can take him for a few rounds and test the stamina as well as land a punch they might be able to put him away. I think Wlad is the person to test this which is what makes it such a good fight. The flip side is that Wlad has been shown to be chinny so Joshua could look spectacular in laying him out

freddydoesdallas wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone heard the rumour about Daniel Dubois koing Joshua in sparring? Add that to the Price sparring story and you would imagine Josh is chinny.

He doesn't fight like a chinny fighter though, goes for the KO when he sees it...and hasn't been troubled as a pro or as an experienced amateur.

Anyway I was wondering if there was any likely truth to the Dubois session?

Whyte had him hurt in their fight and he's not a particularly big puncher at the weight.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was a bit. Maybe he'll be like Price in that if someone can take him for a few rounds and test the stamina as well as land a punch they might be able to put him away. I think Wlad is the person to test this which is what makes it such a good fight. The flip side is that Wlad has been shown to be chinny so Joshua could look spectacular in laying him out

Yes Whyte doesn't seem to be a particularly big puncher, certainly not in Wlad's league.

Wlad's definitely on the slide a little, as you would expect at his age, but he's got the power to make that an irrelevance if he doesn't get blasted out of there.

I think that Joshua is likely to be very tentative in the early going against Wlad, he'll have to be, because if he starts walking into the jab, he's got trouble. I don't think he has the lateral movement to attempt what Fury did, nor is he loose enough, so I anticipate a bit of a Mexican standoff the first couple of rounds.

wesshaw1985 wrote:http://www.BS.com/wba-prez-fir ... iz--112954

Blimey! That would have to be this year wouldn't it? They keep coming thick and fast!

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone heard the rumour about Daniel Dubois koing Joshua in sparring? Add that to the Price sparring story and you would imagine Josh is chinny.

He doesn't fight like a chinny fighter though, goes for the KO when he sees it...and hasn't been troubled as a pro or as an experienced amateur.

Anyway I was wondering if there was any likely truth to the Dubois session?

He got beaten up and stopped in the amateurs.

mickey1975 wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone heard the rumour about Daniel Dubois koing Joshua in sparring? Add that to the Price sparring story and you would imagine Josh is chinny.

He doesn't fight like a chinny fighter though, goes for the KO when he sees it...and hasn't been troubled as a pro or as an experienced amateur.

Anyway I was wondering if there was any likely truth to the Dubois session?

He got beaten up and stopped in the amateurs.

When did Joshua get beaten up in the ams? Whyte beat him early doors. He got stopped in the Europeans I think under the old 'soon as you get hit heavy I'm stopping the fight' rules. He certainly didn't get beaten up in that one.

Joshua has never been 'beaten up'. Not even close to it.

He has his limitations, which are clear to see, but the sparring stories are getting ridiculous. Is there any pro fighter that hasn't knocked Joshua down and out in sparring? I'm not sold on him, but there isn't a heavyweight out there that has anything like an easy night against him. He gives anyone hell, at the very least. He's in danger of becoming underrated it seems!

lillywhite14 wrote:

mickey1975 wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:Has anyone heard the rumour about Daniel Dubois koing Joshua in sparring? Add that to the Price sparring story and you would imagine Josh is chinny.

He doesn't fight like a chinny fighter though, goes for the KO when he sees it...and hasn't been troubled as a pro or as an experienced amateur.

Anyway I was wondering if there was any likely truth to the Dubois session?

He got beaten up and stopped in the amateurs.

When did Joshua get beaten up in the ams? Whyte beat him early doors. He got stopped in the Europeans I think under the old 'soon as you get hit heavy I'm stopping the fight' rules. He certainly didn't get beaten up in that one.

Joshua has never been 'beaten up'. Not even close to it.

He has his limitations, which are clear to see, but the sparring stories are getting ridiculous. Is there any pro fighter that hasn't knocked Joshua down and out in sparring? I'm not sold on him, but there isn't a heavyweight out there that has anything like an easy night against him. He gives anyone hell, at the very least. He's in danger of becoming underrated it seems!

Ok, but that stoppage wasn't unfair. He was getting hurt. I thought the Cuban had an easy night with him in the olympics!

Got beaten up in the gym recently too apparently.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Got beaten up in the gym recently too apparently.

By who????

boxingknockout wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Got beaten up in the gym recently too apparently.

By who????

Lawrence Okolie. Allegedly.

Way Klitschko was behaving last time out he was treating it like a Pantomime ... he's behind you.
Way Wladimir got into the ring beside Joshua and tried to rally the crowd was wank and he got mute applause.

Match up is excellent it sells itself, I hope they don't cheap it out and show the Germans [Klitschko v Haye] how to sophisticate it up while maintaining the buzz.

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:

boxingknockout wrote:

TheDarkDestroyer wrote:Got beaten up in the gym recently too apparently.

By who????

Lawrence Okolie. Allegedly.

Daniel Dubois gave him a good test aswell. Allegedly.

Sadiq Khan confirms 90,000 capacity at Wembley for Joshua vs Klitschko. If true, it'll be the biggest boxing crowd in the UK for 78 years.

ILikeBeer wrote:Sadiq Khan confirms 90,000 capacity at Wembley for Joshua vs Klitschko. If true, it'll be the biggest boxing crowd in the UK for 78 years.

The mayor of london has given the go ahead for another 10k tickets to be sold

mimmy123 wrote:

ILikeBeer wrote:Sadiq Khan confirms 90,000 capacity at Wembley for Joshua vs Klitschko. If true, it'll be the biggest boxing crowd in the UK for 78 years.

The mayor of london has given the go ahead for another 10k tickets to be sold

Because 10,000 of the tickets are on coach sales, it takes the strain off the local transport networks.

New rumours that Okolie knocked Joshua down heavily in sparring... as well as Dubois.

I don't know if I believe all these rumours - yes Joshua has been hurt in Ams and Whyte stunned him, but he didn't strike me as a chinny fighter. Surely all these rumours - Price, Okolie, Dubois can't all be BS?

Joshua has admitted to the Price story but it means nothing, it was years ago. He's now world champion and Price is scratching around for a career desperate for a big fight.

rd350lc wrote:

Autobarn wrote:

dirk2686 wrote:Whilst it's fine to say the level of opposition Joshua has faced hasn't been great, the same can be said of Fury before he fought Wlad. It's a bit of a non point really; if general consensus is he needs to step up, his lack of top level experience is a given when he actually does.

Great point.

Fury had to face Chisora and McDermott twice apiece to beat them decisively, and had been down or hurt versus Pakjk and Firtha, and was even facing cruiserweight Cunningham! By these standards it's impossible that he beat Wlad. Perhaps we shouldn't trust our eyes.

People do approach fights in literal minded fashion, "I didn't see him do it, so he can't do it" - when the same thing applies to so many fighters prior to them stepping up and succeeding. "He didn't develop, because he didn't fight good enough opposition in their prime!" When in fact everything is in a state of constant flux, anything possible.

Fury did not beat McDermott decisively in their first fight by any stretch of the imagination.

Most thought he lost that fight .

Just shows what can be achieved , but to me Joshua has never really looked in any serious trouble since turning pro .

i said he had to fight McDermott (and Chisora) twice to get the decisive win, in other words struggling the first time and winning convincingly the second.

Definitely Fury was lucky the first time with McDermott.

Agreed, he really came on afterward, and nobody could have seen him winning the heavyweight title on that display where he was lucky to beat McDermott and spent much of the fight turning sideways and almost turning his back. Looked like he just couldn't cope

Autobarn wrote:

rd350lc wrote:

Autobarn wrote: Great point.

Fury had to face Chisora and McDermott twice apiece to beat them decisively, and had been down or hurt versus Pakjk and Firtha, and was even facing cruiserweight Cunningham! By these standards it's impossible that he beat Wlad. Perhaps we shouldn't trust our eyes.

People do approach fights in literal minded fashion, "I didn't see him do it, so he can't do it" - when the same thing applies to so many fighters prior to them stepping up and succeeding. "He didn't develop, because he didn't fight good enough opposition in their prime!" When in fact everything is in a state of constant flux, anything possible.

Fury did not beat McDermott decisively in their first fight by any stretch of the imagination.

Most thought he lost that fight .

Just shows what can be achieved , but to me Joshua has never really looked in any serious trouble since turning pro .

i said he had to fight McDermott (and Chisora) twice to get the decisive win, in other words struggling the first time and winning convincingly the second.

Definitely Fury was lucky the first time with McDermott.

Agreed, he really came on afterward, and nobody could have seen him winning the heavyweight title on that display where he was lucky to beat McDermott and spent much of the fight turning sideways and almost turning his back. Looked like he just couldn't cope

The first Chisora fight was decisive in my eyes. He toyed with him in the rematch. I've rewatched the McDermott fight, yes, I'd score it against Tyson but not quite as bad as people say. He settled the score next time out. Don't forget how young Tyson was then. His training has moved up several notches since hooking up with Peter, too.

Fury v Chisora one was a really good heavyweight fight in which Fury was hurt. That said I had him clearly ahead. Far fewer problems in fight two.