Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

Who wins?

Poll ended at 12 May 2018, 04:46

Fury - Decision
54
67%
Fury - KO/TKO
13
16%
DRAW
2
2%
Sexton - KO/TKO
6
7%
Sexton - Decision
6
7%
 
Total votes: 81

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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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The undercard is on Spike and it's absolutely dog shíte! Yet when there's a decent undercard when Taylor is fighting it isn't fuckin broadcast!

C5 better get their fingers out and show the undercard for the Postol fight next month especially after showing this utter crap!
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maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:27
dirk2686 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:20
nitro5912 wrote: 12 May 2018, 03:35
100% no it wont
I think it could - in the sense that terrestrial figures for fights are often dramatically higher than on platforms like Sky and BT, purely because it's free and anyone with a TV has access. There will be plenty of people who still sit down on a Saturday night and look towards the main terrestrial channels for something to watch.

Mick's point is obviously skewed because he'll use this to somehow suggest Hughie is more popular than Joshua which of course is laughable.
It will need to do over 2m viewers to beat the Klitschko fight - it 100% won’t as that would make it the most watched show of the last few weeks.

Tyson did some decent viewer numbers on ch5 a few years back. He had well over 1m a couple of times which is good for ch5.
Fair point.

I think the point is that it'll do well in terms of audience but that has nothing to do with Hughie being popular. It's because he's cheap. It's like saying a particular type of car is really popular because the garage is literally giving them away.

Why Mick has to turn this into a Joshua comparison I don't know. If anything all that will happen is the audience will be comparing what they see tonight with Joshua and laughing.
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nitro5912 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:41
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 03:54 Please list Sky ppv official figures for his last five fights. I genuinely don’t know them. I’m guessing you work for Sky?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sky_Box_Office

Not hard to find them on Google.
I’d only say these are directional. For example the Haye v Klitschko number is a viewers estimate not the number of PPVs sold.

Also the Nas numbers are massively overstated.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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So it took Wlad to finally get AJ past Fury numbers?
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dirk2686 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:50
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:27
dirk2686 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:20

I think it could - in the sense that terrestrial figures for fights are often dramatically higher than on platforms like Sky and BT, purely because it's free and anyone with a TV has access. There will be plenty of people who still sit down on a Saturday night and look towards the main terrestrial channels for something to watch.

Mick's point is obviously skewed because he'll use this to somehow suggest Hughie is more popular than Joshua which of course is laughable.
It will need to do over 2m viewers to beat the Klitschko fight - it 100% won’t as that would make it the most watched show of the last few weeks.

Tyson did some decent viewer numbers on ch5 a few years back. He had well over 1m a couple of times which is good for ch5.
Fair point.

I think the point is that it'll do well in terms of audience but that has nothing to do with Hughie being popular. It's because he's cheap. It's like saying a particular type of car is really popular because the garage is literally giving them away.

Why Mick has to turn this into a Joshua comparison I don't know. If anything all that will happen is the audience will be comparing what they see tonight with Joshua and laughing.
If they repeat both v's Parker they'll all be debating who's more exciting!
Ps nice avoidance of "Tyson" in your posts since being exposed....
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mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:56 So it took Wlad to finally get AJ past Fury numbers?
Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
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maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:08
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:56 So it took Wlad to finally get AJ past Fury numbers?
Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
Dont quote me on this but i would think lewis has to be the biggest ppv boxer the uk has ever produced we were paying to watch him fight at 5am and there was no streaming to detract from his ppv numbers.
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Avitar wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:16
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:08
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:56 So it took Wlad to finally get AJ past Fury numbers?
Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
Dont quote me on this but i would think lewis has to be the biggest ppv boxer the uk has ever produced we were paying to watch him fight at 5am and there was no streaming to detract from his ppv numbers.
Have to agree here. Until Joshua fights in the USA, no doubt the fights will still be PPV. We'll then see how much he produces. Most casual brits won't tune in at 5am etc.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:22
Avitar wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:16
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:08

Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
Dont quote me on this but i would think lewis has to be the biggest ppv boxer the uk has ever produced we were paying to watch him fight at 5am and there was no streaming to detract from his ppv numbers.
Have to agree here. Until Joshua fights in the USA, no doubt the fights will still be PPV. We'll then see how much he produces. Most casual brits won't tune in at 5am etc.
With the exception of Holyfield and Tyson, Lewis’ PPV buys weren’t massive (200k at a big push). I know he wasn’t helped by the big time difference and if he’d fought more in the UK then it may be a different story. AJ’s done c.5m PPV buys so far in the U.K. It will be interesting to see the numbers if he fought in the US though.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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Is anyone going to actually watch it?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:50 Is anyone going to actually watch it?
Mrs and kids want to watch Eurovision :lol: I'll record the main event and watch it after. Not fussed with undercard tbh. It's dreadful.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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Hughie Fury Eyes Belfast Title Defense if He Gets Past Sexton

Hughie Fury’s father and trainer, Peter, believes that his son can net the British heavyweight title when he challenges Sam Sexton for the belt at Bolton’s Macron Arena on Saturday night en route to what would be a dream headlining slot in Belfast.

Hughie’s cousin, Tyson, also held the British title and Peter believes that the British belt will be his son’s first step towards another world title tilt after being narrowly out-pointed by then-WBO holder Jospeh Parker via a Majority Decision at the Manchester Arena in September.

“Hughie has learned a lot from his loss to Parker,” stated the trainer when speaking to David Kelly of the Belfast Telegraph. “The loss is a blessing in disguise because it has shown him that just doing enough to win isn't going to get you the title. He has to be that bit more aggressive, I want to see him let the punches flow and show the flair he has and when he does that then you will see the best of him.”

He added: “God willing he wins the title then we would love to have a defence in Belfast. We had a great time when he boxed in the City Hall [W4 against Moses Matovu in May 2013] and there's such a buzz around boxing in Ireland at the moment that it would be great to fight there again.”

Fury (20-1, 10 KOs), though, must be wary that he doesn’t slip up against former Commonwealth holder Sexton (24-3, 9 early), who could be knocked completely out of the title picture if he fails to win. “Sexton is a good all-round British fighter and I think he will be a good test for Hughie,” he said. “But I am very confident that Hughie will get the job done and look very good.”
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:22
Avitar wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:16

Dont quote me on this but i would think lewis has to be the biggest ppv boxer the uk has ever produced we were paying to watch him fight at 5am and there was no streaming to detract from his ppv numbers.
Have to agree here. Until Joshua fights in the USA, no doubt the fights will still be PPV. We'll then see how much he produces. Most casual brits won't tune in at 5am etc.
With the exception of Holyfield and Tyson, Lewis’ PPV buys weren’t massive (200k at a big push). I know he wasn’t helped by the big time difference and if he’d fought more in the UK then it may be a different story. AJ’s done c.5m PPV buys so far in the U.K. It will be interesting to see the numbers if he fought in the US though.
how do you know what the actual ppv numbers are???? even now its based off hearn boasting.. back in the day no one talked about it so im not sure where you are getting the numbers from.
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Avitar wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:14
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:22

Have to agree here. Until Joshua fights in the USA, no doubt the fights will still be PPV. We'll then see how much he produces. Most casual brits won't tune in at 5am etc.
With the exception of Holyfield and Tyson, Lewis’ PPV buys weren’t massive (200k at a big push). I know he wasn’t helped by the big time difference and if he’d fought more in the UK then it may be a different story. AJ’s done c.5m PPV buys so far in the U.K. It will be interesting to see the numbers if he fought in the US though.
how do you know what the actual ppv numbers are???? even now its based off hearn boasting.. back in the day no one talked about it so im not sure where you are getting the numbers from.
Just PM’d you. :bag:
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:08
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:56 So it took Wlad to finally get AJ past Fury numbers?
Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
Everyone wanted to see if Wlad had anything left after Tyson ruined him. He had a bit.
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mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:55
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:08
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 04:56 So it took Wlad to finally get AJ past Fury numbers?
Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
Everyone wanted to see if Wlad had anything left after Tyson ruined him. He had a bit.
Mate - you’re a good, knowledgeable poster on here. Do you honestly believe that?
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:59
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:55
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:08

Yes. However you could also say AJ did similar numbers against Martin and Breazeale to those that Fury did against Klitschko and when AJ fought Klitschko he did double the numbers compared to when Fury fought him.

You could also say AJ is the biggest, most consistent high drawing PPV boxer the U.K. has ever had.
Everyone wanted to see if Wlad had anything left after Tyson ruined him. He had a bit.
Mate - you’re a good, knowledgeable poster on here. Do you honestly believe that?
Yes, I thought Wlad did OK.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 05:50 Is anyone going to actually watch it?
Yes , will be good to see "shades of Aldi " back in the ring again . :TU:
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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Does anyone know if this will be streaming live from whatever the C5 equivalent to iPlayer is called? I’m in Spain and would like to watch it, if it’s on the website then I can tether my uk mobile number to my laptop and watch it that way...
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 07:37
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:59
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:55

Everyone wanted to see if Wlad had anything left after Tyson ruined him. He had a bit.
Mate - you’re a good, knowledgeable poster on here. Do you honestly believe that?
Yes, I thought Wlad did OK.
So you honestly believe that everyone watched it purely because they wanted to see how much Klitschko had left following his fight with Fury? Not because of AJ, the fact it was a really good fight or that it was the biggest ever UK boxing fight in terms of crowd?!
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chinarich wrote: 12 May 2018, 08:46 Does anyone know if this will be streaming live from whatever the C5 equivalent to iPlayer is called? I’m in Spain and would like to watch it, if it’s on the website then I can tether my uk mobile number to my laptop and watch it that way...
It's called 5 on demand. I don't believe they show live.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 12 May 2018, 08:59
chinarich wrote: 12 May 2018, 08:46 Does anyone know if this will be streaming live from whatever the C5 equivalent to iPlayer is called? I’m in Spain and would like to watch it, if it’s on the website then I can tether my uk mobile number to my laptop and watch it that way...
It's called 5 on demand. I don't believe they show live.
Oh that’s a shame, thanks for the reply. I’ll have to catch up with it if ends up being a decent fight...
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 08:53
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 07:37
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 06:59

Mate - you’re a good, knowledgeable poster on here. Do you honestly believe that?
Yes, I thought Wlad did OK.
So you honestly believe that everyone watched it purely because they wanted to see how much Klitschko had left following his fight with Fury? Not because of AJ, the fact it was a really good fight or that it was the biggest ever UK boxing fight in terms of crowd?!
Apparently when Tyson boxed Wlad, it was nothing to do with Tyson it was in a packed stadium, ppv etc. What’s the difference?
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 10:36
maverick23 wrote: 12 May 2018, 08:53
mickey1975 wrote: 12 May 2018, 07:37

Yes, I thought Wlad did OK.
So you honestly believe that everyone watched it purely because they wanted to see how much Klitschko had left following his fight with Fury? Not because of AJ, the fact it was a really good fight or that it was the biggest ever UK boxing fight in terms of crowd?!
Apparently when Tyson boxed Wlad, it was nothing to do with Tyson it was in a packed stadium, ppv etc. What’s the difference?
The U.K. PPV (which at over 500k buys is a good result) would have been because of Tyson fighting the long time champ.

Klitschko fought in stadiums in about half a dozen other fights pre Tyson against fighters far worse than Fury (Mormeck, I think his rematch against Tony Thompson was a stadium fight). Fighting Fury (a young, unbeaten, massive heavy who talked a good game and was massively unpredictable) would have helped the tickets, it was Klitschko who would have driven the bulk of the sales.
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Re: Hughie Fury vs. Sam Sexton - 12 May 2018

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Mick, by your logic, Carlos Takam (fought in front of 75k with 800k+ PPV buys) is a bigger deal than Fury?
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