Fight by Fight: Tyson Fury

[keithmoonhangover]

Hope we get 2 more years.

Does the failed PED test not bother you?

Does his five separate point deductions in separate fights bother you?

Fury is a dirty fighter both in and out of the ring.

The Christian Hammer fight should be a NC. Possibly the Klitschko fight.

Fury tested positive for nandrolone after the fight. The result was revealed seven months after the fight and a month after Fury had beaten Wladimir Klitschko.

You don't say.

All of it bothers me.

[Teddy's Toupee]

- Olympic Gold medalist Clay Knocked down by 190lb prospect Sonny Banks.

Clay beat up by 190 lb fringe contender Doug Jones.

Clay knocked out by 175 lb Henry Cooper who had to wear weights in his trunks to give the fight credibility. Oh, wait, wait, you don't say slickster Angie pulled a torn glove delaying tactic to extend Clay rest period while applying illegal smelling salts that kicks him into the next round?

Truly boxing GREATS.

In faint hopes that some light may enter that vast void of darkness in your world of analytics, a basic 101 timeline comparison working backwards of moderns Fury, Wlad, and Tyson.

1. Fury turns pro age 20 vs usual suspect for 1st rd KO

1. Wlad turns pro as Olympic Gold Medalist age 20 for 1st rd KO.

1. Tyson turns pro after having failed to make the Olympic team, age 18 for a 1st rd KO

2. First fighter of note Fury faces is Big John McDermott who had whooped the pants off Danny Williams to no credit by blinkered Brit fans, here going toe to toe against 21 yr old Fury in a fantastic fight far beyond the capabilities of blinkered Brit fans who insist he beat Fury. Yeah, notorious Brit ref O'Conner may have fluffed the Fury scorecard, but he blew it when last round with McD trapped on ropes ready to go bye bye, McD suddenly breaks free to sprint to opposite ringside, the most blatant turning of the back a fighter can make, either automatic DQ or TKO depending on ref discretion, here the ref having zero discretion to match his blinkered Brit compatriots.

2. First noteworthy fight for Wlad was 250 lb Ross Puritty in Wlad's 12th fight in 12 months where exhausted, he takes his first KD and loss when his ama trainer jumps the ring to stop the fight. Yes, an ama trainer and ama manager put a 21 yr old kid on that kind of grueling schedule in advance of his first homecoming professional fight.

2. First noteworthy fighter for Tyson, age 19, is James Tillis featured prominently on terrestrial TV that dominated international viewing then. That got all the monkeys up in arms saying since Tyson couldn't knock out the tricky Tillis, he must've lost that fight in spite of knocking him down and putting him in a stink and run flight for the rest of the fight.

3. First Boxrec ranked top 10 fighter in a general rating sense for Fury is Derek Chisora with both 14-0, but here Boxrec ratings fail in those post fight rankings that have Chisora ranked 11th that sounds high for a loser, but Fury ranked #1 with is balderdash. More possibly #1 Brit, but no matter, enshrined as such for now on Boxrec.

3. First Boxrec ranked top 10 fighter in a general sense for Wlad is Monte Barrett, 23-1, or Chris Byrd, 31-1, but here Boxrec again fails by listing ratings as N/A. Wlad whooped both quite easily. Byrd fresh off his lucky Vitali ama trainer stopping that fight on Vit injury who had been pitching a shutout on Byrd, now in top 10 when Wlad whooped him.

3. First Boxrec ranked top 10 fighter in a general sense for 19 yr old Tyson is Trevor Berbick, the WBC champ whom he KOed inside 2 rounds that introduced the rest of the public to his explosive style.

4. First World Title for Fury is age 27 vs 39 yr old Wlad suffering from his wife's mental collapse requiring Wlad to juggle that care with his newborn daughter's care. Gonna insert myself here as a father potentially facing that problem, that is about as helpless for a family man as it gets. Afterward Fury exposes his true cowardice by dumping the rematch in advance of the Blinkered Brit BBBc 2 yr delayed drug suspension. Nobody can figure blinkered Brits, not even themselves.

4. First World Title for Wlad is age 23 vs the above Chris Byrd where he avenged Vitali in another family shutout.

4. First World Title for Tyson is famously age 19 yrs, a heavyweight record where he obliterates Trevor Berbick, the slayer of Ali as if he were no more than a 6 yr old.

5. First World Title Defense for Fury is age 33 yrs against DWilder whom he KOed the fight before to win that misbegotten title and series.

5. First World Title Defense for Wlad is age 24 vs Derrick Jefferson.

5. First World Title Defense for the now 20 yr old Tyson is the massively bigger, stronger Bonecrusher Smith who tried mightily to hug poor Tyson to death in a fight to forget.

6. Significant signs of troubles or KDs of Fury: KDed by Neven Pajkic, Steve Cunningham. Not including the 4 Wilder KDs, probably missed some more, but boxrec is incomplete. Could've/should've been stopped by Otto Wallin who carved up Fury with one of the worst cuts in the history of heavyweights. Been a Mob fighter since 2017 where he has garnered most of his dubious accolades, an ongoing record of ignobility with no end but dark shadows.

6. Significant signs of troubles or KDs of Wlad start with Ross Puritty where the weakness of his management and ama trainer cost him a shut out fight. The Kbros are very intelligent, enough to quickly adapt professional standards to dominate boxing in a fashion never before witnessed, removing the heavy title from American shores of previous dominance, seemingly forever with few hopes on the American horizon from that point in time

6. Significant signs of troubles or KDs of Tyson start with his HOF manager Jim Jacobs following his HOF trainer Cus D'Amato in death that leaves him rudderless. Scavengers DKing and Robin Givens tag team him resulting in a bi-polar psychiatric diagnosis complete with experimental sedatives that only seem to enhance his explosive violence out of the ring.

7. World Title Record for Fury is 5-0-1, 4 KO with 3 defenses, two against fighters he already fought twice.

7. World Title Record for Wlad is 24-5, 19 KO with 23 successful defenses. Holds World Record as title holder with over 12 years combined totals.

7. World Title Record for Tyson is 12-4, 10 KO holding the record as youngest heavy champ, age 19, and also the riches record after having been the wealthiest fighter at his age before being sent up to the Big House for 3 years. All orchestrated by DKing who appointed his own tax attorney to represent Mike in a felony criminal trial while acquiring Power of Attorney for Mike to look out for his property assets that somehow ended up in King's bank account by the time Mike got out of prison.

8. Current Record for Fury: 33-0-1, 24 KO.

8. Current Record for Wlad is 64-5, 53 KO

8. Current Record for Tyson is 50-6, 44 KO

8. Alpsy Record is He should try smarter, not harder

Are you saying Mohammad Ali wasn't a very good boxer?

- Overrated obviously to have such controversies. He'd have been savaged on boxrec, and moreover did nothing to dissuade that observation in his next two fights against Liston where he suffers his first strippage.

That's 4 consecutive fights where he could've, or should've lost and lost badly, and if I have to repeat the two Liston fight summaries, you would be a lost cause.

As to this\/

No, but he went from Arum to King to make it happen...... if memory serves. I could never understand how Tyson-Foreman didn't happen. I guess it was another case of the sums not adding up.

- Bill Cayton was still a surviving manager. The background was Bejing after Nixon thawed frozen diplomatic relations. China opened up a chain of model cities for western bus tourist dollars to rake in the dough. To further raise the International Chinese profile, Mao who had a thing about Big George and his background story, authorized a $20 mil offer to a Texas boy with business relations in China for a Tyson/Big George bout, the richest prize fight in history. After a week or two of bargaining, papers were being drawn up with a roughly even split of the purse. Before they could finish, the Tiananmen Square Massacre cut off China from most of the Western world. The State Department forbid American travel to China, so The Next Fight of the Century literally died on the vine.

The consolation fight featured Zombied Mike sedated on heavy Prozac walking face first into Buster now making the easiest $$$ of his life. Suddenly Mike lashed out by instinctive muscle memory to flatten Buster for the KO, but like Mike's hero Dempsey, Buster got the 14-15 sec Tunney count and went on to flatten the deflated Tyson.

Post prison Mike was again offered Foreman by King but refused as he was no longer Iron Mike. He was 4 Round 3 Ring
Circus Train Wreck in SloMo Mike

What else you need to know?

Mao died in 1976.

[keithmoonhangover]

Are you saying Mohammad Ali wasn't a very good boxer?

- Overrated obviously to have such controversies. He'd have been savaged on boxrec, and moreover did nothing to dissuade that observation in his next two fights against Liston where he suffers his first strippage.

That's 4 consecutive fights where he could've, or should've lost and lost badly, and if I have to repeat the two Liston fight summaries, you would be a lost cause.

As to this\/

No, but he went from Arum to King to make it happen...... if memory serves. I could never understand how Tyson-Foreman didn't happen. I guess it was another case of the sums not adding up.

- Bill Cayton was still a surviving manager. The background was Bejing after Nixon thawed frozen diplomatic relations. China opened up a chain of model cities for western bus tourist dollars to rake in the dough. To further raise the International Chinese profile, Mao who had a thing about Big George and his background story, authorized a $20 mil offer to a Texas boy with business relations in China for a Tyson/Big George bout, the richest prize fight in history. After a week or two of bargaining, papers were being drawn up with a roughly even split of the purse. Before they could finish, the Tiananmen Square Massacre cut off China from most of the Western world. The State Department forbid American travel to China, so The Next Fight of the Century literally died on the vine.

The consolation fight featured Zombied Mike sedated on heavy Prozac walking face first into Buster now making the easiest $$$ of his life. Suddenly Mike lashed out by instinctive muscle memory to flatten Buster for the KO, but like Mike's hero Dempsey, Buster got the 14-15 sec Tunney count and went on to flatten the deflated Tyson.

Post prison Mike was again offered Foreman by King but refused as he was no longer Iron Mike. He was 4 Round 3 Ring
Circus Train Wreck in SloMo Mike

What else you need to know?

Mao died in 1976.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Are you saying Mohammad Ali wasn't a very good boxer?

- Overrated obviously to have such controversies. He'd have been savaged on boxrec, and moreover did nothing to dissuade that observation in his next two fights against Liston where he suffers his first strippage.

That's 4 consecutive fights where he could've, or should've lost and lost badly, and if I have to repeat the two Liston fight summaries, you would be a lost cause.

As to this\/

No, but he went from Arum to King to make it happen...... if memory serves. I could never understand how Tyson-Foreman didn't happen. I guess it was another case of the sums not adding up.

- Bill Cayton was still a surviving manager. The background was Bejing after Nixon thawed frozen diplomatic relations. China opened up a chain of model cities for western bus tourist dollars to rake in the dough. To further raise the International Chinese profile, Mao who had a thing about Big George and his background story, authorized a $20 mil offer to a Texas boy with business relations in China for a Tyson/Big George bout, the richest prize fight in history. After a week or two of bargaining, papers were being drawn up with a roughly even split of the purse. Before they could finish, the Tiananmen Square Massacre cut off China from most of the Western world. The State Department forbid American travel to China, so The Next Fight of the Century literally died on the vine.

The consolation fight featured Zombied Mike sedated on heavy Prozac walking face first into Buster now making the easiest $$$ of his life. Suddenly Mike lashed out by instinctive muscle memory to flatten Buster for the KO, but like Mike's hero Dempsey, Buster got the 14-15 sec Tunney count and went on to flatten the deflated Tyson.

Post prison Mike was again offered Foreman by King but refused as he was no longer Iron Mike. He was 4 Round 3 Ring
Circus Train Wreck in SloMo Mike

What else you need to know?

Mao died in 1976.

- Nice one. Substitute Chairman Mao Clone Communist Drones and you'll get the drift as nobody I know can tell them apart

Mao still hail and hearty when he opened up the tourist chain of model cities. Further opened up in the early 80s when my best bud and his wife went over to research his doctoral thesis that was published.

Any more nits to pick?

[Ezzard]

- Overrated obviously to have such controversies. He'd have been savaged on boxrec, and moreover did nothing to dissuade that observation in his next two fights against Liston where he suffers his first strippage.

That's 4 consecutive fights where he could've, or should've lost and lost badly, and if I have to repeat the two Liston fight summaries, you would be a lost cause.

As to this\/



- Bill Cayton was still a surviving manager. The background was Bejing after Nixon thawed frozen diplomatic relations. China opened up a chain of model cities for western bus tourist dollars to rake in the dough. To further raise the International Chinese profile, Mao who had a thing about Big George and his background story, authorized a $20 mil offer to a Texas boy with business relations in China for a Tyson/Big George bout, the richest prize fight in history. After a week or two of bargaining, papers were being drawn up with a roughly even split of the purse. Before they could finish, the Tiananmen Square Massacre cut off China from most of the Western world. The State Department forbid American travel to China, so The Next Fight of the Century literally died on the vine.

The consolation fight featured Zombied Mike sedated on heavy Prozac walking face first into Buster now making the easiest $$$ of his life. Suddenly Mike lashed out by instinctive muscle memory to flatten Buster for the KO, but like Mike's hero Dempsey, Buster got the 14-15 sec Tunney count and went on to flatten the deflated Tyson.

Post prison Mike was again offered Foreman by King but refused as he was no longer Iron Mike. He was 4 Round 3 Ring
Circus Train Wreck in SloMo Mike

What else you need to know?

Mao died in 1976.

- Nice one. Substitute Chairman Mao Clone Communist Drones and you'll get the drift as nobody I know can tell them apart

Mao still hail and hearty when he opened up the tourist chain of model cities. Further opened up in the early 80s when my best bud and his wife went over to research his doctoral thesis that was published.

Any more nits to pick?

Broughton, hope all is well.

How high/low do you rate Fury?

[Teddy's Toupee]

- Overrated obviously to have such controversies. He'd have been savaged on boxrec, and moreover did nothing to dissuade that observation in his next two fights against Liston where he suffers his first strippage.

That's 4 consecutive fights where he could've, or should've lost and lost badly, and if I have to repeat the two Liston fight summaries, you would be a lost cause.

As to this\/



- Bill Cayton was still a surviving manager. The background was Bejing after Nixon thawed frozen diplomatic relations. China opened up a chain of model cities for western bus tourist dollars to rake in the dough. To further raise the International Chinese profile, Mao who had a thing about Big George and his background story, authorized a $20 mil offer to a Texas boy with business relations in China for a Tyson/Big George bout, the richest prize fight in history. After a week or two of bargaining, papers were being drawn up with a roughly even split of the purse. Before they could finish, the Tiananmen Square Massacre cut off China from most of the Western world. The State Department forbid American travel to China, so The Next Fight of the Century literally died on the vine.

The consolation fight featured Zombied Mike sedated on heavy Prozac walking face first into Buster now making the easiest $$$ of his life. Suddenly Mike lashed out by instinctive muscle memory to flatten Buster for the KO, but like Mike's hero Dempsey, Buster got the 14-15 sec Tunney count and went on to flatten the deflated Tyson.

Post prison Mike was again offered Foreman by King but refused as he was no longer Iron Mike. He was 4 Round 3 Ring
Circus Train Wreck in SloMo Mike

What else you need to know?

Mao died in 1976.

- Nice one. Substitute Chairman Mao Clone Communist Drones and you'll get the drift as nobody I know can tell them apart

Mao still hail and hearty when he opened up the tourist chain of model cities. Further opened up in the early 80s when my best bud and his wife went over to research his doctoral thesis that was published.

Any more nits to pick?

Mao was far from "hail and hearty" during the last decade of his life, suffering from various heart and lung conditions as well as motor neuron and Parkinson's diseases. You can't tell Chinese people apart from each other? That's rather racist.

[Ezzard]

Hope we get 2 more years.

Does the failed PED test not bother you?

Keith, for some reason I thought you were originally positive on Fury. When everyone was talking about Price-Fury most (including me) backed Price. I thought you were one of the few backing Fury. Has my memory failed me?

[Ezzard]

Mao died in 1976.

- Nice one. Substitute Chairman Mao Clone Communist Drones and you'll get the drift as nobody I know can tell them apart

Mao still hail and hearty when he opened up the tourist chain of model cities. Further opened up in the early 80s when my best bud and his wife went over to research his doctoral thesis that was published.

Any more nits to pick?

Mao was far from "hail and hearty" during the last decade of his life, suffering from various heart and lung conditions as well as motor neuron and Parkinson's disease. You can't tell Chinese people apart from each other? That's rather racist.

No, he can't tell communists apart.

[Teddy's Toupee]

- Nice one. Substitute Chairman Mao Clone Communist Drones and you'll get the drift as nobody I know can tell them apart

Mao still hail and hearty when he opened up the tourist chain of model cities. Further opened up in the early 80s when my best bud and his wife went over to research his doctoral thesis that was published.

Any more nits to pick?

Mao was far from "hail and hearty" during the last decade of his life, suffering from various heart and lung conditions as well as motor neuron and Parkinson's disease. You can't tell Chinese people apart from each other? That's rather racist.

No, he can't tell communists apart.

Chinese communists. I bet he can tell Gorbachev and Guevara apart from each other.

[keithmoonhangover]

Hope we get 2 more years.

Does the failed PED test not bother you?

Keith, for some reason I thought you were originally positive on Fury. When everyone was talking about Price-Fury most (including me) backed Price. I thought you were one of the few backing Fury. Has my memory failed me?

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

[Ezzard]

Does the failed PED test not bother you?

Keith, for some reason I thought you were originally positive on Fury. When everyone was talking about Price-Fury most (including me) backed Price. I thought you were one of the few backing Fury. Has my memory failed me?

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

Good on you. Most people would be wearing that prediction like a badge from here until eternity.

He is clearly a student of the game. A fantastically versatile fighter rarely seen in a HW.

[Ambling Alp II]

Questionable chin, questionable defense, questionable power. Moves well for a guy that is 40 pounds over weight. Guess that makes him versatile and fantastic.

[Ezzard]

Does the failed PED test not bother you?

Keith, for some reason I thought you were originally positive on Fury. When everyone was talking about Price-Fury most (including me) backed Price. I thought you were one of the few backing Fury. Has my memory failed me?

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

What was it that convinced you? And did you expect him to be this good?

[keithmoonhangover]

Keith, for some reason I thought you were originally positive on Fury. When everyone was talking about Price-Fury most (including me) backed Price. I thought you were one of the few backing Fury. Has my memory failed me?

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

What was it that convinced you? And did you expect him to be this good?

The potential. Fast hands and feet, good upper body movement, confidence and will to win. I got a fair bit of stick from posters. The day before the first Chisora fight, I text all my mates and told them to watch the fight because Fury was a future world champion and the Delboy fight was his coming out party. I don't know if I thought he would be this good, I didn't really think past winning the title. I don't rate Wilder that highly with his massively padded record and limited skills, and Klitshcko was ancient, so to a certain extent, the jury is still out. If he loses to Usyk, which I think he will, then he I don't think he can classed as an ATG. I also think his chin will catch up with eventually. As much as I think he will toy with Joshua, but AJ does have a slim chance of stopping him. One day he'll get knocked down and won't be able to get up in ten seconds.

[Ezzard]

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

What was it that convinced you? And did you expect him to be this good?

The potential. Fast hands and feet, good upper body movement, confidence and will to win. I got a fair bit of stick from posters. The day before the first Chisora fight, I text all my mates and told them to watch the fight because Fury was a future world champion and the Delboy fight was his coming out party. I don't know if I thought he would be this good, I didn't really think past winning the title. I don't rate Wilder that highly with his massively padded record and limited skills, and Klitshcko was ancient, so to a certain extent, the jury is still out. If he loses to Usyk, which I think he will, then he I don't think he can classed as an ATG. I also think his chin will catch up with eventually. As much as I think he will toy with Joshua, but AJ does have a slim chance of stopping him. One day he'll get knocked down and won't be able to get up in ten seconds.

Wlad was the champ when he beat him so it's a bit tough to devalue that win. Wilder is a huge puncher. Maybe the best one shot guy since Shavers. But I think that sort of fighter suits Fury.

I think Usyk's movement might rove too much for Fury. Guys at HW with fast feet tend not to like meeting other fleet-footed opponents.

I also think Joshua is a great finisher and when he hurts Fury (and he will) he can finish him off. But doesn't mean he will.

But Fury can move and jab. Fight inside. Take centre ring. Dance. Defend. And stand his ground.

[keithmoonhangover]

What was it that convinced you? And did you expect him to be this good?

The potential. Fast hands and feet, good upper body movement, confidence and will to win. I got a fair bit of stick from posters. The day before the first Chisora fight, I text all my mates and told them to watch the fight because Fury was a future world champion and the Delboy fight was his coming out party. I don't know if I thought he would be this good, I didn't really think past winning the title. I don't rate Wilder that highly with his massively padded record and limited skills, and Klitshcko was ancient, so to a certain extent, the jury is still out. If he loses to Usyk, which I think he will, then he I don't think he can classed as an ATG. I also think his chin will catch up with eventually. As much as I think he will toy with Joshua, but AJ does have a slim chance of stopping him. One day he'll get knocked down and won't be able to get up in ten seconds.

Wlad was the champ when he beat him so it's a bit tough to devalue that win. Wilder is a huge puncher. Maybe the best one shot guy since Shavers. But I think that sort of fighter suits Fury.

I think Usyk's movement might rove too much for Fury. Guys at HW with fast feet tend not to like meeting other fleet-footed opponents.

I also think Joshua is a great finisher and when he hurts Fury (and he will) he can finish him off. But doesn't mean he will.

But Fury can move and jab. Fight inside. Take centre ring. Dance. Defend. And stand his ground.

Personally I think Wilder's power is overrated. His KO percentage is mostly made up of opponents early in his career. If he punched so hard, he wouldn't have taken nine rounds against Molina and Szpilka, and eleven to beat Duhaupas. I can't imagine those guys lasting anywhere that long with the big hitters from history. Gerry Cooney would have eaten them alive.

[Ezzard]

Thing is he takes his time. The more confident the other guy gets the more dangerous he is. The shot in the second Ortiz fight was a bit special.

[Counter-puncher]

Keith, for some reason I thought you were originally positive on Fury. When everyone was talking about Price-Fury most (including me) backed Price. I thought you were one of the few backing Fury. Has my memory failed me?

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

Good on you. Most people would be wearing that prediction like a badge from here until eternity.

as if he has shut up about it

[keithmoonhangover]

No, that's right mate, well remembered. I predicted he would be the world champion. I still rate him as a boxer (it's impossible not to), but he lost me as a fan when he failed the test.

Good on you. Most people would be wearing that prediction like a badge from here until eternity.

as if he has shut up about it

I hardly mention it in fairness. You'll notice in this thread that it was Ezz who brought it.

[keithmoonhangover]

Thing is he takes his time. The more confident the other guy gets the more dangerous he is. The shot in the second Ortiz fight was a bit special.

He definitely hits hard, no question. But his competition (apart from Fury) has been very limited.

[BroughtonRulesRefuge]

Mao died in 1976.

- Nice one. Substitute Chairman Mao Clone Communist Drones and you'll get the drift as nobody I know can tell them apart

Mao still hail and hearty when he opened up the tourist chain of model cities. Further opened up in the early 80s when my best bud and his wife went over to research his doctoral thesis that was published.

Any more nits to pick?

Broughton, hope all is well.

How high/low do you rate Fury?

- After Musk and his 110K Musketeers flooded the town with their Save the Planet Monster Electric Car subsidies, it's debatable if our power grid survives today's Arctic onslaught with temps forecast at 14F, ie 18 below Freezing, more likely 10F where I live.

Back in the day, no bigger proponent of young Fury can be found on Boxrec as I went toe to toe with self identified drunken louts known as Brits back then threatening to beat me up. No better comedy could be found, but I turned on him after the shameless Quit that Blubber pulled in bailing Wlad's rematch.

As to our resident Toupee Twit, he'll be casting drug aspersions after I moved my neighbor strongman's 3000lbs of weights into my carport for sorting where I sectioned his rack to yield a couple of shelves for his 10 dumbells and free weights with extensions for his two Barbells above the concrete.

All that exhausting lifting and labor over a 3day period yielded a magnificent Testa spike that I rode for a week far above my baseline. With Toups needing viagra to post steroid aspersions on a mens' forum, he would also be greatly distressed over all my luxuriant hair flowing down my back that I usually ponytail.

In 1966 Mao famously swam across the 500M Yangtze @72. The shortlist of Global 72 year olds then and now capable of doing that is a fractional %. And then as now, western media using fuzzy photos speculated it was a stand in to cover the ailing Putin's eminent, ooooopsy, I mean ailing Mao's demise.

When my bud and his wife traveled deep into the interior for Scholastic Research, this was no model city, but a historic agrarian community long ignored with a shrine nearby of Monks keeping records as Monks are prone to do. They had Chinese pots for #1, but #2 was a shared deep hole some quarter mile out of town, almost the width of the Yangtze that Mao swam.

Imagine smart chip implanted Toupee calculating racist ghost nanograms while skipping out for his daily constitutional

[HomicideHenry]

Undisputed: A Fight in Jeopardy



After Tyson Fury easily dispatched of Dereck Chisora in their third and final encounter, as Tyson Fury promised a title shot to Chisora prior to the 3rd Deontay Wilder fight, the face-to-face showdown between Tyson Fury and Oleksandr Usyk seemed extremely promising that a fight would be signed and sealed and delivered in rapid succession.

The fight, originally set for Saudi Arabia, seemed to be made as team Usyk allegedly got their end of the deal from the Saudis. But apparently whatever the Saudis were offering Tyson Fury was not what the WBC champion was hoping for. So the deal for Saudi Arabia fell through and negotiation shifted over to a fight in Wembley Stadium for April 29th.



As of this writing, March 8th of 2023 which is Wednesday, there has been no deal in any way shape or form. Supposedly the absolute final deadline in negotiations for this fight is Sunday, March 12th of 2023.



According to Usyk's team if they are not able to secure a fight with Tyson Fury they have no choice but to defend the individual titles against their mandatories. The WBA mandatory is Daniel Dubois, the IBF mandatory is Hgrovic, and the WBO mandatory is Joe Joyce. Which means we would potentially have to wait until 2024 for the undisputed fight if Usyk doesn't retire or lose at any point or if Fury doesn't retire or lose.



Supposably team Usyk offered a 60/40 split to the winner of the fight which was allegedly rejected by team Fury. Unfortunately because of all of this going on Tyson Fury is rapidly becoming one of the most disliked champions in the sport of boxing considering all the talk that it would be nothing to defeat the Ukrainian in the ring.

The sad part is most people who are boxing fans do tend to think Tyson Fury would win this fight which makes it all the more difficult as fans to understand what is the holdup in making this fight happen.

If the undisputed fight does not happen it seems likely Tyson Fury will have to fight Andy Ruiz next considering Deontay Wilder is pursuing Francis Ngannou and Ruiz has already said he wasn't fighting Hgrovic for the interim IBF title. Since Ruiz is the #2 ranked heavyweight by the WBC and Wilder is #1 it's pretty much unavoidable unless Fury vacated the WBC title.

Undisputed: The Last Day a Fight is Made

On the final day of negotiations as the WBA was about to force the Ukrainian to defend the title against Daniel Dubois the lineal champion Tyson Fury took to social media and told Usyk that it was 70/30 or nothing:





And within the hour Oleksandr Usyk accepted the purse split that Tyson Fury demanded:



Which officially kicked off the first day (allegedly) of Tyson Fury's training camp for Oleksandr Usyk for the undisputed championship in Wembley Stadium for April 29th 2023:



Tyson Fury flew in former WBO title holder Joseph Parker for 15 rounds sparring for the first day:

[HomicideHenry]

More Undisputed Shenanigans:



Tyson Fury lays down the gauntlet suggesting that there should be no rematch clauses for April 29th. Which is kind of ironic because when the fight was supposed to be held in Saudi Arabia it was Fury's team that asked for a rematch clause.



To which Usyk, rather agitated, reminded him of this. If apart of a mind game strategy Tyson Fury is beginning to win on that forefront.



Following this the next day Tyson Fury praises our Lord and Savior and Redeemer and Healer and Deliverer and God over our hearts and lives forever Jesus Christ Almighty God and...









Fury taunts Usyk and his manager, then says he is going to bring in Josh Taylor as one of his sparring partners, and then says he will go into a complete and total social media blackout and that all the chaos was to drive up interest in the fight.

Notes:

Josh Taylor, a junior welterweight, has been in camps with Tyson Fury in the past but what his actual help and assistance could possibly be is anyone's guess. Fury used him previously in videos mocking Usyk for being a "blown up middleweight," and letting Taylor whack at his body. I suspect that Tyson Fury will be bringing in better quality sparring partners for this and that this is largely for humor purposes.

[margaret thatcher]

yes, usyk giving any response at all shows that fury is just owning the mind games, he must be so shook to release a 15 secondish video

if a tyson fury opponent even breaths, it's obvious he's ruined them mentally

[HomicideHenry]

yes, usyk giving any response at all shows that fury is just owning the mind games, he must be so shook to release a 15 secondish video

if a tyson fury opponent even breaths, it's obvious he's ruined them mentally

When's the last time you ever saw Usyk get remotely annoyed or aggravated publicly? Or his manager looking exasperated? Never. So whatever Fury is doing, it's working. You're minimizing it, but the truth is there's never been a time when Usyk or his manager have remotely looked rattled in the past.