James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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Who wins?

Poll ended at 23 Feb 2019, 16:57

DeGale - Decision
46
41%
DeGale - KO/TKO
2
2%
DRAW
3
3%
Eubank Jr. - K/TKO
36
32%
Eubank Jr. - Decision
26
23%
 
Total votes: 113

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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:30
samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:02
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 14:52

If i find a decent stream ill watch it if not i wont its that simple really and i dont care who i upset for not forking out 15 quid. The only people that benefit from a ppv are the broadcasters and the promotor,the fighter wont benefit,he will be on an agreed fee
You've seen their contracts?
No av you? My point is they will get a flat fee. Any extra they want is greed imo,like i posted earlier Nigel Benn survived on 750,000 for fightin a killer in Gerald McClellan so these two can survive on their flat fee too :TU:
You're miles off here dude.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:49
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:30
samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:02
You've seen their contracts?
No av you? My point is they will get a flat fee. Any extra they want is greed imo,like i posted earlier Nigel Benn survived on 750,000 for fightin a killer in Gerald McClellan so these two can survive on their flat fee too :TU:
You're miles off here dude.
So do you think these two deserve more than,lets say 1m each?
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:14
samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:49
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:30

No av you? My point is they will get a flat fee. Any extra they want is greed imo,like i posted earlier Nigel Benn survived on 750,000 for fightin a killer in Gerald McClellan so these two can survive on their flat fee too :TU:
You're miles off here dude.
So do you think these two deserve more than,lets say 1m each?
I think they deserve as much as they can earn.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

Post by leejonesjnr »

thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:14
samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:49
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:30

No av you? My point is they will get a flat fee. Any extra they want is greed imo,like i posted earlier Nigel Benn survived on 750,000 for fightin a killer in Gerald McClellan so these two can survive on their flat fee too :TU:
You're miles off here dude.
So do you think these two deserve more than,lets say 1m each?
You think they are - the equivalent of £750k in 1995 is £1.14m, but what I believe he is saying is that you are wrong, main venters on a PPV are not on a flat fee.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:18
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:14
samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:49

You're miles off here dude.
So do you think these two deserve more than,lets say 1m each?
You think they are - the equivalent of £750k in 1995 is £1.14m, but what I believe he is saying is that you are wrong, main venters on a PPV are not on a flat fee.
Yeh, they’re likely to get a guaranteed purse of maybe just over £1m and then after sales, it might just hit £2m.. I don’t think they’ll be earning more than that..
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:18
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:14
samwbr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 18:49

You're miles off here dude.
So do you think these two deserve more than,lets say 1m each?
You think they are - the equivalent of £750k in 1995 is £1.14m, but what I believe he is saying is that you are wrong, main venters on a PPV are not on a flat fee.
They will have a figure followed by a % of the ppv am i right or am i wrong lee??
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:23
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:18
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:14

So do you think these two deserve more than,lets say 1m each?
You think they are - the equivalent of £750k in 1995 is £1.14m, but what I believe he is saying is that you are wrong, main venters on a PPV are not on a flat fee.
They will have a figure followed by a % of the ppv am i right or am i wrong lee??
Soooooo...... not a flat fee - that is what people were disagreeing with.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:36
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:23
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 19:18

You think they are - the equivalent of £750k in 1995 is £1.14m, but what I believe he is saying is that you are wrong, main venters on a PPV are not on a flat fee.
They will have a figure followed by a % of the ppv am i right or am i wrong lee??
Soooooo...... not a flat fee - that is what people were disagreeing with.
Do they get a flat fee? And if no one bought the ppv what would they get?
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:40
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:36
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:23
They will have a figure followed by a % of the ppv am i right or am i wrong lee??
Soooooo...... not a flat fee - that is what people were disagreeing with.
Do they get a flat fee? And if no one bought the ppv what would they get?
I'm not interested in getting involved in a conversation about boxers pay with a man who doesn't know what flat fee means. Whatever you think is the answer, imagine I said that.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 21:04
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:40
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:36

Soooooo...... not a flat fee - that is what people were disagreeing with.
Do they get a flat fee? And if no one bought the ppv what would they get?
I'm not interested in getting involved in a conversation about boxers pay with a man who doesn't know what flat fee means. Whatever you think is the answer, imagine I said that.
Ok im right then? Lol im joking lee,i admit i said flat fee at the beginning forgettin about the ppv cuts they will get. I do know what flat fee means but also people get a flat fee followed by bonuses ya know
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 21:21
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 21:04
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:40

Do they get a flat fee? And if no one bought the ppv what would they get?
I'm not interested in getting involved in a conversation about boxers pay with a man who doesn't know what flat fee means. Whatever you think is the answer, imagine I said that.
Ok im right then? Lol im joking lee,i admit i said flat fee at the beginning forgettin about the ppv cuts they will get. I do know what flat fee means but also people get a flat fee followed by bonuses ya know
That would be more of a base plus a cut. Flat fee is just that. No % of shvt. Just the fee.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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I seriously thought DeGale had chucked away his value along with the belt. Seems not, according to Eddie.
If he makes a good wedge without the belt, good luck to him, but in my view this is a nothing fight.
There is no beef, no belt, no real rankings at stake, no need for a PPV. And I ain't paying.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:40
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:36
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:23
They will have a figure followed by a % of the ppv am i right or am i wrong lee??
Soooooo...... not a flat fee - that is what people were disagreeing with.
Do they get a flat fee? And if no one bought the ppv what would they get?
I’m not gonna call it a flat fee, i’m gonna call it a guaranteed base purse. They’ll make over $1m guaranteed definately. The PPV revenue, call it a bonus on top of their guaranteed pay.

So if the PPV don’t break even, at least they still get their guaranteed pay.
——

There are times though where boxers don’t get a guaranteed purse when a fight is PPV.

Ward was guaranteed $6m in the Kovalev rematch and Kovalev was not guaranteed a purse, instead he was just gonna get a percentage of gate and PPV revenue.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 08:14
thechump wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:40
leejonesjnr wrote: 05 Jan 2019, 20:36

Soooooo...... not a flat fee - that is what people were disagreeing with.
Do they get a flat fee? And if no one bought the ppv what would they get?
I’m not gonna call it a flat fee, i’m gonna call it a guaranteed base purse. They’ll make over $1m guaranteed definately. The PPV revenue, call it a bonus on top of their guaranteed pay.

So if the PPV don’t break even, at least they still get their guaranteed pay.
——

There are times though where boxers don’t get a guaranteed purse when a fight is PPV.

Ward was guaranteed $6m in the Kovalev rematch and Kovalev was not guaranteed a purse, instead he was just gonna get a percentage of gate and PPV revenue.
:TU:
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rectangle head vs square head
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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Shhhh wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 02:48
jamamb wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 01:51 rectangle head vs square head
Lollllllll
DeGale has got a bit of an annoying face.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 15:46
Ah, so eubank sees himself as Bane. Same coat too.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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JimJim2009 wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 08:35
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 06 Jan 2019, 15:46
Ah, so eubank sees himself as Bane. Same coat too.
Or Biggles, maybe.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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If Degale can't keep moving for the entire 12 rounds and outbox Eubank jnr, Chris will batter him for a points win.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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DeGale by decision...

Eubank Jr is not a Super Middleweight... He might get away with against a decent fighter...
Buut against a top-level DeGale, I think he will be exposed...
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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Crease wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 09:56 DeGale by decision...

Eubank Jr is not a Super Middleweight... He might get away with against a decent fighter...
Buut against a top-level DeGale, I think he will be exposed...
Problem is that DeGale is far from his top-level. Eubank by wide decision, if not late TKO.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 03:02DeGale has got a bit of an annoying face.
They both do...

The two most annoying faces in British boxing...

And two arrogant pricks to boot.
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Crease wrote: 10 Jan 2019, 07:23
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Jan 2019, 03:02DeGale has got a bit of an annoying face.
They both do...

The two most annoying faces in British boxing...

And two arrogant pricks to boot.
Ugly Kids.
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Re: James DeGale vs. Chris Eubank Jr. - 23 February 2019

Post by Exoddus »

Such a strange fight.

They are Britain's most prolific boxers who both look like total amateurs in the ring. It's going to be such a poor display of boxing.

Eubank has never beaten anyone (AA was totally shot). Degale has lost to Groves (I had Degale the winner by a single point) Truax and I think it was Medina who I thought beat Degale too. Which was the biggest maniuplation of the compubox stats until Joshua vs Povetkin. Where Joshua threw and "landed" more punches in every single round than Povetkin did :lol: :lol:.

Degale did have a close fight with Jack, Groves and Bute (imo). So he gets my nod but he does look totally finished now. Maybe not to the point where Eubank can beat him though. I think Gegale should have jumped ship with Jim Mcdonnell a few years ago.

They should bill this fight like the WWE. "Loser leaves boxing forever". As who ever gets beat in this fight really is done for. The winner though will probably rematch George Groves and he beats both of these.
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