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Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:31
by MasterG
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:30
So what? Only hardcores know Michael Hunter, who is reportedly to be named on Tuesday.
Hunter is american though to get american interest
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:32
by oogiebe
MasterG wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:31
Hunter is american though to get american interest
As many folks in the US who know Hunter know Joyce. He won't generate any interest.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:33
by MasterG
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:32
As many folks in the US who know Hunter know Joyce. He won't generate any interest.
But hes the American Dream. No one knows Joyce over there, how can you sell tickets for a British clash to the Yanks?
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:34
by lillywhite14
Hunter is terrible for this. Absolute clusterfvck
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:35
by oogiebe
MasterG wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:33
But hes the American Dream. No one knows Joyce over there, how can you sell tickets for a British clash to the Yanks?
The only American HW who is marginally known in the US is Wilder. Ironically, Miller is probably more well known in light of his dirty tests. LMAO!

Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:36
by oogiebe
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:34
Hunter is terrible for this. Absolute clusterfvck
Ortiz is more known than Hunter by a country mile.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:36
by MasterG
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:36
Ortiz is more known than Hunter by a country mile.
maybe so but he doesnt want the fight
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:37
by oogiebe
MasterG wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:36
maybe so but he doesnt want the fight
Hunter is the man, by all reports. Ortiz is promised a Wilder rematch which is what prompted his decision I suspect.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:39
by MasterG
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:37
Hunter is the man, by all reports. Ortiz is promised a Wilder rematch which is what prompted his decision I suspect.
Well who ever fights AJ is going to get ko.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:39
by oogiebe
MasterG wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:39
Well who ever fights AJ is going to get ko.
This'll be like Foreman vs Norton.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:41
by lillywhite14
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:36
Ortiz is more known than Hunter by a country mile.
Joshua v Hunter, I have no interest at all, I won’t watch a minute,
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:42
by oogiebe
lillywhite14 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:41
Joshua v Hunter, I have no interest at all, I won’t watch a minute,
It might be only a minute! LOL!
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:48
by Boxerbeetle
I like Hunter, but this would be a terrible matchup for him, he’s going to get a severe beating unfortunately. Total mismatch.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 14:48
by Boxerbeetle
oogiebe wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 14:42
It might be only a minute! LOL!
Fair point

Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 15:27
by tobyh5
Charr's manager says they have been in London negotiating for the last two days.
PPV will totally tank. I cannot see any angle to sell it.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 15:32
by Boxerbeetle
tobyh5 wrote: ↑20 Apr 2019, 15:27
Charr's manager says they have been in London negotiating for the last two days.
PPV will totally tank. I cannot see any angle to sell it.
Yeah it’s going to be an extremely hard sell, Matchroom could well take a loss on this show imo. Gate will be relatively small due the venue, and can’t see PPV sales being at all good.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 16:24
by Elpidiphor
black panther wrote: ↑17 Apr 2019, 13:29
If Miller is definitely out of the AJ fight, bearing in mind Wilder & Fury already have fights scheduled, who would you prefer to see opposite Joshua on June 1st?
Luis Ortis. But Hunter will be OK too (my second choice)
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 20 Apr 2019, 18:49
by funso banjo baby
it staggers me that people wouldn't want to see the Whyte rematch next
Dillian is a genuine contender and has fought his way there following the Joshua loss
Ortiz hasn't done much at all since wobbling Wilder and has looked slow and boring since.
theres maybe some kind of AJ-fan bias at work here.
with the kind of bombs being thrown I reckon an AJ v Whyte rematch is 50/50 maybe that's why no one wants to see it
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 21 Apr 2019, 13:32
by Grilling Machine
Gone for Joyce because Kuzmin's not there, and I think Ortiz is too slow to do anything these days. Unless Joshua just stands in front of him looking confused by his southpaw guard, but I can't see it.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 22 Apr 2019, 13:26
by keirw
Ortiz would be a good replacement but would want massive money to step in at this late stage.
Whyte rematch is inevitable, but not 1st June.
Wilder and Fury are out of the equation.
Charr has a poor man's version of a belt Joshua already has, and precious little else to offer.
Pulev has a cut and a few legal issues at the moment. Though I expect he probably will fight AJ in the UK later this year or early next year.
Hunter is being heavily linked with this fight and I can see why. He will take it cheap and his lack of notoriety is irrelevant as this fight is being sold on Joshua's name.
More than half the tickets sold have been to travelling UK fans, many of whom will still travel regardless of Joshua's opponent. So forking out for an Ortiz or Whyte wouldn't make much sense at this stage.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 22 Apr 2019, 13:31
by Coco
The only fighters who would be highly regarded are Fury, Wilder and Usyk.
A level below would be Whyte, Pulev and Ortiz.
If your not going to take one of those it's better taking on a well known local bigmouth who is cheap and lose spectacularly.
Step up Chris Arrolea!
Hunter would be a horrible fight to watch, good fighter, awkward, smaller, AJ would get to him but not look good in doing so..
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 22 Apr 2019, 13:42
by JimStone
I'm convinced that Usyk at 95-100kg bodyweight would school Joshua.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 22 Apr 2019, 17:35
by oogiebe
Shhhh wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 17:32
Any one hear rumours of Andy Ruiz?
Nope. Hunter is getting confirmed tomorrow.
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 22 Apr 2019, 17:37
by jamamb
JimStone wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 13:42
I'm convinced that Usyk at 95-100kg bodyweight would school Joshua.
it would be interesting, he have good jab + movement and stamina for days, but he does get hit and i think hed get caught enough to eventually be stopped or forced into enough of a shell where hes outpointed
Re: Jarell Miller stand-in: who would you prefer?
Posted: 22 Apr 2019, 17:41
by skanksta
JimStone wrote: ↑22 Apr 2019, 13:42
I'm convinced that Usyk at 95-100kg bodyweight would school Joshua.
I think everyone is convinced he would...., until he got hit.
15kg weight advantage slams the skill gap shut for me.