That’s nowhere near $2m and a mere fraction the amount Eddie Hearn offered.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 04:59 The ONLY website stating more than $500k, was TMZ, who claim Ortiz would have received between $1m - $1.5m.
They also reported that Wilder would have made up to $5m in that fight too.
Maybe, but he is VADA CBP enrolled so doesn’t he get random out of competition tests?Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 05:11 It could just be the case that Ortiz is using that same drug to help his health condition.
Fair play to you for your admission EO. I don't think Ortiz is afraid of anyone and it's my conclusion that his reason for rejecting the fight is one of - or a combination of - (aaa) Haymon is blocking the fight because he doesn't want to allow anything that might cause DAZN to make a success of Joshua's US debut (bbb) He needs time to cycle off the pharmaceuticals (ccc) He's plain old fashioned stupid.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 10:51 I agree that the most probable cause for Eddie Hearn's offer being rejected is most likely political. I also sincerely believed that Luis Ortiz was never the “Boogeyman” of the heavyweight division.
So I took the opportunity, rather dishonestly if I say so myself, to mock the Cuban for “ducking”.
I did this in order to be intentionally ironic, since the Cuban has rejected the opportunity to face Dillian Whyte on multiple occasions, as well as AJ, but yet many that frequent this forum will doggedly maintain that the “fearsome” King Kong Ortiz has somehow been “avoided” by the very best the division has to offer, when this clearly isn't the case.
...I tend to agree that there's a combination of reasons and Ortiz being just a pawn in this chess game...candyslim wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 06:24 ...I don't think Ortiz is afraid of anyone and it's my conclusion that his reason for rejecting the fight is one of - or a combination of - (aaa) Haymon is blocking the fight because he doesn't want to allow anything that might cause DAZN to make a success of Joshua's US debut (bbb) He needs time to cycle off the pharmaceuticals (ccc) He's plain old fashioned stupid.
handsofstone wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 16:28 Ortiz said a few weeks ago if Miller was to pull out then he would step in for whatever money was offered, Miller pulls out and Eddie offers him 5 mill which is 4.5 mill more than he took for Wilder, now all of a sudden he wants 10, he's another cheating fake bullshitting phoney like the majority of them
Can anyone remind me why Ortiz deserves more than 5 or even 1 mill? He's a cheating pudendum whos best win is Jennings, he doesn't even deserve a shot he should be grateful, i'd rather see Joshua pull some Apollo Creed stunt and give Dave Allen a shot than that cheating fcvker a crack
Kownacki is still a pup so I can understand him biding his time fair enough but as for the likes of Ortiz, Fury and Whyte, maybe they should all get juiced to the gills and fight each other and the winner can fight Miller to see who the biggest cheating fvckker in the division is
Anoyne who claims to be a fan of a promoter needs their head examined but i do find myself sticking up for Hearn because guys like Haymon are a cancer to the sport, the guys never done an interview in his life and has a track record of stopping great match ups from happening yet people are so quick to defend him
If Eddie is so full of sh1t then why wont anyone prove it, he's the most public promoter in boxing, will answer questions on any subject, ive never seen Finkle or Arum call his bluff, just a load of vague nonsense, people were certain Hearn/Joshua were ducking Wilder, they called his bluff and Wilder went running behind uncle Al
IF you don't like Eddies personality fair enough, totally understandable but if your a fan of boxing then how can you defend these other charlatans
As for people hating on Joshua, the guys box office excitement 99% of the time he fights and has a CV that blows the rest of the pretenders out the water, the only guys he hasn't faced are the ones proven to be ducking
I don't feel the same animosity toward Luis Ortiz but I do agree with almost all of that. Good post 
how much more then 500k did he getJeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑24 Apr 2019, 20:45 Ortiz made much more than 500k to fight wilder. Haymon fighters are paid differently; common knowledge until its convenient to forget
Is that 5mm flat or can he earn the ppv revenue like miller?
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 05:04 That’s nowhere near $2m and a mere fraction the amount Eddie Hearn offered.
It seems that oogiebe lied, which is no shock!
Stopped taking your medication again?! C'mon Lad. Time to go to bed.If I had made it up, I'd have used a bigger number. $2 Million doesn't make a case for Ortiz being low-balled to fight AJ. Ortiz' base was 500k and his residuals were much more than that. Word is that Wilder made close to $5 Million in total for that fight. Go find something to "refute" that. Isn't that what you would say?Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 10:04 Are you honestly pretending that you didn’t make things up about the purse Ortiz received to face Wilder?
You did make it up since you can’t provide any sources.oogiebe wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 10:09 If I had made it up, I'd have used a bigger number. $2 Million doesn't make a case for Ortiz being low-balled to fight AJ. Ortiz' base was 500k and his residuals were much more than that. Word is that Wilder made close to $5 Million in total for that fight. Go find something to "refute" that. Isn't that what you would say?
Prove it.
I don’t have to prove a damn thing. Other people, including myself, have attempted to find evidence of your claim, but none exists.
Ortiz has a net worth of around $20 Million. His share revenue from Wilder fight was never fully disclosed. I've read estimates from 1.2 to 2 Million in total. I'm sorry you are disturbed in the head. I really am. Now go and run along, sweetiepie.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 11:25 I don’t have to prove a damn thing. Other people, including myself, have attempted to find evidence of your claim, but none exists.
So the only possible conclusion that any rational person can conclude is that you blatantly lied.
Also, when someone makes accusations or assertions, the onus is on them to prove the validity of their own claims.
By your own admission, you can’t do this, so therefore, you blatantly lied!
Prove it!
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 11:32 Prove it!
To repeat myself, you can’t, because you blatantly lied!
You know for certain you can’t provide proof of anything that only ever existed in your own mind.
An hour ago you asked me “to prove a claim” I made, which I did.
i find that very very hard to believe, i just did a quick search and there is a 'celebrity' real estate agent also named luis ortiz who has been reported with that net worth, maybe thats the mix up because no way is luis ortiz with a network of 20m from boxing
SHhhhhh...I'm trying to get EO on a google chase!jamamb wrote: ↑25 Apr 2019, 11:52 i find that very very hard to believe, i just did a quick search and there is a 'celebrity' real estate agent also named luis ortiz who has been reported with that net worth, maybe thats the mix up because no way is luis ortiz with a network of 20m from boxing
that celebnetworth site is sh!t btw
