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Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑01 Aug 2019, 11:17 If the great "little" man was greater than the great "big" man, he probably will beat him. It has happened over and over and over throughout history.

Most of the time, the great big man wins against the great small man. That's logical. We don't have to be biologists to figure it out.

My point is that there are different levels of great. For example, Jake LaMotta was great, but Ray Robinson was greater.

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑02 Aug 2019, 10:56 My point is that there are different levels of great. For example, Jake LaMotta was great, but Ray Robinson was greater.

Frankly I think LaMotta is pretty overrated. His legend seems to be based on beating Ray Robinson one time and little else. How would he qualify as great in your view? Is Robert Villemain also great? Joey Giambra? Holly Mims?

Going for the all-time trolling record?

Ambling Alp II wrote: ↑05 Aug 2019, 15:52 Going for the all-time trolling record?

If your going to argue LaMotta qualifies as great an awful lot of guys generally not regarded as great would seem to also qualify. Like Robert Villemain for example.

Were you to rank the middleweights of LaMottas era he would probably come out 7th or 8th and that's being extremely generous and giving him every benefit of the doubt.

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 May 2019, 23:15

goose 5 wrote: ↑07 May 2019, 20:31 Hagler would win. By the time 1987 came around, Marvin wasn't close to his peak. Even still, Leonard's win after that layoff was great.

I thought Hagler won the first fight.

I must've missed the rematch!!

AntonioMartin wrote: ↑16 Nov 2019, 07:19

oogiebe wrote: ↑07 May 2019, 23:15
I thought Hagler won the first fight.

I must've missed the rematch!!

LOL!As it relates to this mythical fight. SHould've worded it better...