Spence now at -1000
Porter + 600
Still -150 on Spence by decision though.
Errol Spence vs. Shawn Porter - September 28, 2019
Re: Errol Spence vs. Shawn Porter - September 28, 2019
From what I can see Spence has the skills hands down.
Porter looks as alive and alert as I've ever seen a man.
Can't disrespect Porter and who he's fought and the type of fights he's been in, can't do it Porter has respect.
He small though, punches recklessly and wide but game and will fight you.
Spence is almost on top of the world, tanned Algieri, stopped Brook on the road and one sided Garcia, he's a player in the P4P ranks.
Weigh in didn't show us much in terms of the physicals apart from height.
Porter looks as alive and alert as I've ever seen a man.
Can't disrespect Porter and who he's fought and the type of fights he's been in, can't do it Porter has respect.
He small though, punches recklessly and wide but game and will fight you.
Spence is almost on top of the world, tanned Algieri, stopped Brook on the road and one sided Garcia, he's a player in the P4P ranks.
Weigh in didn't show us much in terms of the physicals apart from height.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Shawn Porter - September 28, 2019
Spence by late TKO over the buck-toothed linebacker.
Re: Errol Spence vs. Shawn Porter - September 28, 2019
I predict a close fight with Spence winning on points. Shawn poses a different type of challenge for Spence and it will take Spence time to adjust to the rough and awkward style. I expect Porter to come out fast where as Spence will take his time and probably give up some of the earlier rounds, Spence will get comfortable after 4 or 5 rounds and start landing clean on Porter, Porter will change it up and start boxing more and will be the reason he makes it to the final bell. 8 rounds to 4 in favor of Spence.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Shawn Porter - September 28, 2019
Kell Brook breaks down his former opponents and explains who will win
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... o-will-win
Kell Brook has had world championship fights against Errol Spence Jr and Shawn Porter, who meet tonight, and believes: "It should be me up there".
"It should be me up there," Brook said about tonight's world welterweight title unification fight between IBF champion Spence Jr and WBC champion Porter, live on Sky Sports Action at 2am. "I shouldn't have lost my world title. Nobody has ever pushed Errol like I did, for the first six or seven rounds, until me eye went. It took its toll. With a long camp and prepared fully, I've got his number."
What are Shawn Porter's advantages?
Kell Brook said: "He's like a bull in a china shop. He gets inside however he can.
"He's rough. You can feel that, in his heart, he believes he can win. It is hard to stop a man who believes.
"He keeps pushing forward, chucking shots to body and head. He tries to rough you up.
"He tries to drag you into the trenches, and drown you.
"He's not a bad boxer, look at his resume. He's boxed Oleksandr Usyk and Danny Jacobs in the amateurs so he's here for a reason."
What are Errol Spence Jr's advantages?
Kell Brook said: "Spence is more relaxed, more calculated. But when it gets tough he can dog it out, he can fight. He's the better fighter.
"He's an awkward southpaw who uses his range well. He puts his shots together well. He thinks like a champion.
"Spence Jr will stand with him at times, and box with him at times."
How will Spence Jr vs Porter play out?
Kell Brook said: "It will get rough and tough. Porter will put the early pressure on, but Spence Jr will stand with him and then take over. If Spence Jr gets a window to hurt Porter, he will jump on him and try to hurt him.
"Spence Jr on points but I wouldn't be surprised by a stoppage."
Andy Clarke's verdict
This a high-quality unification. We saw Spence Jr at Bramall Lane against Brook and he was brilliant, taking the title when a battered and bruised Brook took a knee and bowed out in round 11. It was a win that really announced him as a major force and ever since he's been looking to unify.
And when Terence Crawford moved up to welterweight and won the WBO title that's been the fight that he's wanted. But the promotional great divide between Al Haymon and Bob Arum is unbridgeable currently so after making routine defences against Lamont Peterson and Winston Ocampos, Spence Jr accepted a challenge from four-weight world champion Mikey Garcia who decided he wanted to step up 12lb from lightweight to welterweight.
It was intriguing and plenty gave Garcia a chance but, at the AT&T in Texas, Spence Jr won every round on all three cards. He just beat Garcia up, hardly taking a meaningful shot in reply. It was brutal.
Porter won the IBF title in 2013 and has been at world title level since, suffering just two defeats; on points against Brook in Carson in 2014 to lose his IBF title and on points against Keith Thurman in 2016 when challenging for the WBA title. The defeat vs Brook was conclusive, despite the majority decision verdict, but the fight with Thurman was very close, one that could have gone either way.
Porter became a two-time welterweight world champion last September when he won the vacant WBC belt (Thurman had had to vacate) vs Danny Garcia. One again it was very close but Porter got the decision this time. He's defended once since, in March (the week before Spence Jr vs Garcia), when he was pretty fortunate to get the decision over 12 against Yordenis Ugas.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/1 ... o-will-win
Kell Brook has had world championship fights against Errol Spence Jr and Shawn Porter, who meet tonight, and believes: "It should be me up there".
"It should be me up there," Brook said about tonight's world welterweight title unification fight between IBF champion Spence Jr and WBC champion Porter, live on Sky Sports Action at 2am. "I shouldn't have lost my world title. Nobody has ever pushed Errol like I did, for the first six or seven rounds, until me eye went. It took its toll. With a long camp and prepared fully, I've got his number."
What are Shawn Porter's advantages?
Kell Brook said: "He's like a bull in a china shop. He gets inside however he can.
"He's rough. You can feel that, in his heart, he believes he can win. It is hard to stop a man who believes.
"He keeps pushing forward, chucking shots to body and head. He tries to rough you up.
"He tries to drag you into the trenches, and drown you.
"He's not a bad boxer, look at his resume. He's boxed Oleksandr Usyk and Danny Jacobs in the amateurs so he's here for a reason."
What are Errol Spence Jr's advantages?
Kell Brook said: "Spence is more relaxed, more calculated. But when it gets tough he can dog it out, he can fight. He's the better fighter.
"He's an awkward southpaw who uses his range well. He puts his shots together well. He thinks like a champion.
"Spence Jr will stand with him at times, and box with him at times."
How will Spence Jr vs Porter play out?
Kell Brook said: "It will get rough and tough. Porter will put the early pressure on, but Spence Jr will stand with him and then take over. If Spence Jr gets a window to hurt Porter, he will jump on him and try to hurt him.
"Spence Jr on points but I wouldn't be surprised by a stoppage."
Andy Clarke's verdict
This a high-quality unification. We saw Spence Jr at Bramall Lane against Brook and he was brilliant, taking the title when a battered and bruised Brook took a knee and bowed out in round 11. It was a win that really announced him as a major force and ever since he's been looking to unify.
And when Terence Crawford moved up to welterweight and won the WBO title that's been the fight that he's wanted. But the promotional great divide between Al Haymon and Bob Arum is unbridgeable currently so after making routine defences against Lamont Peterson and Winston Ocampos, Spence Jr accepted a challenge from four-weight world champion Mikey Garcia who decided he wanted to step up 12lb from lightweight to welterweight.
It was intriguing and plenty gave Garcia a chance but, at the AT&T in Texas, Spence Jr won every round on all three cards. He just beat Garcia up, hardly taking a meaningful shot in reply. It was brutal.
Porter won the IBF title in 2013 and has been at world title level since, suffering just two defeats; on points against Brook in Carson in 2014 to lose his IBF title and on points against Keith Thurman in 2016 when challenging for the WBA title. The defeat vs Brook was conclusive, despite the majority decision verdict, but the fight with Thurman was very close, one that could have gone either way.
Porter became a two-time welterweight world champion last September when he won the vacant WBC belt (Thurman had had to vacate) vs Danny Garcia. One again it was very close but Porter got the decision this time. He's defended once since, in March (the week before Spence Jr vs Garcia), when he was pretty fortunate to get the decision over 12 against Yordenis Ugas.
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Re: Errol Spence vs. Shawn Porter - September 28, 2019
- This something of a rare fight in that both participates have not been covered in inglorious tattoos as is the modern era of young Americans in general. Both are quiet, consummate pros always in shape with no excuses to let their fists do the talking in the ring with contrasting styles. The laid back Spence is a careful, calculating boxer-puncher whereas the effusive, newly sprouted wildman Porter a squat, muscly, rugged in your face pressure fighter who can box some when the need arises.
Porter been in with stiffer comp overall, and as Manny’s #1 sparring partner during his early welter step up seems especially pumped up with his new wildman of Borneo look. Here he returns to the jurisdiction of his first bogus loss to Brook who looked to have left the building for most of that fight. The thought then was Brook could actually amount to something that never panned out. Interesting how the boxing trainers and fighters have rallied around Porter who has been highly regarded in camps, whereas Spence somewhat exotic and privately trained to hold all his cards close to his vest.
Obviously Spence the A side and future of boxing, but with a lefty vs righty, we know there will be head clashes and lead foot stepping, so Ref Jack Reiss may be the key. He's not a "big fight ref" like so many others, and what stands out to me was the Popkins/Smith fight where Popkins ended up flat on his back on the concrete outside the ring. Reiss had 3 options: 1. Immediate KO and call for medical intervention for the 50 yr old vet bawling on the floor. 2. Automatic DQ when commish members attempted to assist Popkins in clear violation of the rules. 3. Administer a 20 count over a distressed fighter clearly unable to continue that Reiss chose to do.
Thus I fear the action will be too fast and furious for Reiss' best judgement, but if absent the usual blunders endemic to modern boxing this is likely to go down to the wire to fall in the lap of dubious judges using an outdated 10 pt must system that obviously favors Spence.
Nonetheless, the fighters will make this a good fight, the only way boxing has managed to survive this long.
Porter been in with stiffer comp overall, and as Manny’s #1 sparring partner during his early welter step up seems especially pumped up with his new wildman of Borneo look. Here he returns to the jurisdiction of his first bogus loss to Brook who looked to have left the building for most of that fight. The thought then was Brook could actually amount to something that never panned out. Interesting how the boxing trainers and fighters have rallied around Porter who has been highly regarded in camps, whereas Spence somewhat exotic and privately trained to hold all his cards close to his vest.
Obviously Spence the A side and future of boxing, but with a lefty vs righty, we know there will be head clashes and lead foot stepping, so Ref Jack Reiss may be the key. He's not a "big fight ref" like so many others, and what stands out to me was the Popkins/Smith fight where Popkins ended up flat on his back on the concrete outside the ring. Reiss had 3 options: 1. Immediate KO and call for medical intervention for the 50 yr old vet bawling on the floor. 2. Automatic DQ when commish members attempted to assist Popkins in clear violation of the rules. 3. Administer a 20 count over a distressed fighter clearly unable to continue that Reiss chose to do.
Thus I fear the action will be too fast and furious for Reiss' best judgement, but if absent the usual blunders endemic to modern boxing this is likely to go down to the wire to fall in the lap of dubious judges using an outdated 10 pt must system that obviously favors Spence.
Nonetheless, the fighters will make this a good fight, the only way boxing has managed to survive this long.
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