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RonnyJ wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:32

Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:25 None ruled but none were near as good as ali

Id those guys can beat your supermen giants someone more talented in nearly ever facet could possibly rule them.

what do you mean by your first sentence?

to be honest i cant understand your seconde sentence either, is english your first language?

i assume you mean alis skills surpass the skills of the super heavyweights i mentioned, right?
well, yes ali has better skills than all super heavyweights, i aggree. but skills alone dont make it. if skills alone make it, than ali wouldve easily beat foreman and norton, he was superior to them on the skill level. but he struggled cause these guys were very big very strong. klitschkos, joshua and lewis are even more bigger and stronger than foreman or norton. thats all i am saying.

man wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:33 regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:43

man wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:33 regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.

i voted tyson. the prime version of tyson would beat every other hw ever. he is the best. but he was a rare talent, not comparable to the other smaller hw.

man wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:33 regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.

squiggy wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:12

RonnyJ wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:08

none of them ruled the hw division. you know what ruling a division means. it means you are #1 in the division and you reign for a long period of time. lewis, klitschkos, joshua, they all ruled the division. none of the smaller boxer ruled the division. they became champions (now how many champion titles do we got 4 or 5 ), they had lucky nights upsets, but none ruled the divison. the last smaller hw who ruled the division was tyson and that was 30 years ago. holyfield wanted to rule the division and met tall bowe and tall lewis and realised he was not the best hw in the world.

Joshua never ruled the division. There wasn't one year when he was obviously and without doubt the best heavyweight.

RonnyJ wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:20

squiggy wrote: ↑19 Nov 2019, 12:12

Joshua never ruled the division. There wasn't one year when he was obviously and without doubt the best heavyweight.

he was very dominant and considered #1 for 2 years. he did many attemps to fight wilder, but wilder only ran his mouth and wanted no part of joshua. tyical for usa boxers, they talk a lot and than pu$/)y out. wilder lied about a 50 million offer, a offer which hearn never received. as dumb as wilder his maybe he cant send an email.

but you are right being considered #1 of a division for 2 years is not ruling, ruling is for a longer period of time, i would say it starts with 4 or 5 years. that is very dominant when you clean out the division you are in and considered the 1