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tiny_acres wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 20:28

oogiebe wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 20:27

I agreed. I just really thought you provided the obvious answer to Duke's onsided posts.

Sorry I should of known it was sarcasm my friend

No worries. I should've been more clear on that.

tiny_acres wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 20:18

DrDuke wrote: ↑27 Dec 2019, 19:11

Fury's style has developed significantly through his career. And Wilder is still getting outboxed and relies majorly on his power.

I thought we were talking since the Wilder fight.
If we are talking about since the beginning of their careers both have improved

I just meant, that according to how they both had made improvements through their careers, it's fair to say, that Fury had always been more inclined to development. So, there's a bigger possibility for him to make more adjustments in this particular case as well.

Got a feeling Wilder is going to take him out. Hope I’m wrong

anyone going? I'm trying to work out if I fancy it or not. I think I do.

Tickets for the rematch are on sale Saturday, Dec. 28 at 10 a.m. PT and can be purchased at www.MGMGrand.com or www.AXS.com.

Prices are not available on either site, but according to MGM officials organizing the event, tickets start at $154, $254, $354, $504, $1,004, $1,504, before all applicable fees.

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 06:27 anyone going? I'm trying to work out if I fancy it or not. I think I do.

Brits winning in Vegas is a rareity.

Would be a good one to tell the grand kids ‘i was there.’

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 06:27 anyone going? I'm trying to work out if I fancy it or not. I think I do.

I think I might, the missus has never been to Las Vegas.

Gnome wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 09:59

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 06:27 anyone going? I'm trying to work out if I fancy it or not. I think I do.

I think I might, the missus has never been to Las Vegas.

Yep, I’m almost certainly going to go

Deserter wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 10:43

Gnome wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 09:59
I think I might, the missus has never been to Las Vegas.

Yep, I’m almost certainly going to go

Same here, but Vegas aint the bst place tho in February. Cold and No Pool Party/Pool open.

I tried for tickets. all sold out.

Ticket prices ridiculous

Glass Joe wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 14:15 I tried for tickets. all sold out.

It isn't. Expensive yeah but loads available.

Yeah if you want to pay 1k for gods and 2.5k for mid-tier resale

They are as corrupt as Hearn but pretty open about it. It tells you on the AXS homepage that it includes re sellers.

jameswilson wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 08:52

Counter-puncher wrote: ↑28 Dec 2019, 06:27 anyone going? I'm trying to work out if I fancy it or not. I think I do.

Brits winning in Vegas is a rareity.

Would be a good one to tell the grand kids ‘i was there.’

I saw Tyson’s first four or five fights live, feel like it would be good to see him towards the end of the journey

There will be no automatic third fight between Deontay Wilder and Tyson Fury, although the loser of their clash on February 22 will be able to demand a straight return for a smaller cut of the purse.

It had been reported that a third fight would happen this summer, but Bob Arum, Fury’s US promoter, said it has to be triggered by the loser.

Both parties have agreed a 50-50 split for the February 22 fight, which will be on pay-per-view TV in both the US and UK, but the loser will get the short end of the purse in any third fight.

“The deal is that the loser of the fight can ask for a third fight, and he gets 40 percent to the winner’s 60 percent,” Arum said. “So if Wilder loses the fight, he doesn’t necessarily have to ask for a rematch.”

No idea what will happen

This fight had to be made

Hoping it develops into a big rivalry

I'd like Tyson to win but Wilder Ko 4 max
I feel Fury has slipped and Wilder will be sitting back in sniper mode and get him clean this time.

Afterwards Fury will revert to type.

Imagine if it was a draw again!

Jon Saxon wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 18:04 I'd like Tyson to win but Wilder Ko 4 max
I feel Fury has slipped and Wilder will be sitting back in sniper mode and get him clean this time.

Afterwards Fury will revert to type.

I don't think Fury has slipped.
His last fight was dissapointing. Put it down to dealing with a nasty cut, and fighting to his opponents level.
I don't even think he has peaked at 31. That really depends on the work he puts in between now and Feb 22nd.

Jon Saxon wrote: ↑29 Dec 2019, 18:04
I feel Fury has slipped and Wilder will be sitting back in sniper mode and get him clean this time.

I think Fury ups his game when needed. He looks average in some of the easier fights but I reckon that's because he doesn't see them as a danger and treats them as such.

Fury really regressed in the Wallin fight. If he comes in to this fight in the same sort of form I think he will be giving Breazeale a run for his money in terms of getting starched spectacularly.

It's possible the first Wilder fight took a lot out of him.

The problem with rematches, based on these two men's fight histories, is that both men are better in return bouts than in the first encounters.

I'd argue that Fury is better in returns than Wilder, because Wilder's return bout opponents were either much older or they showed up just for a check and did nothing, so it's not a good gauge but Wilder has performed better in returns regardless.

I think too much was made of the Wallin fight, although I was pissed that Fury allowed himself to become that distracted and basically lazy. Wallin, I don't care what Arum said, was supposed to be a non-threat. Fury figured he was nothing, slacked off, and Wallin can guns blazing.

That being said, Wallin couldn't really do anything. Even with Fury being basically one-eyed and bloody all over the place, lost every single round after he cut Fury. That's pretty bad you can't out-box or out-slug a guy who is fighting half blind. Wallin did demonstrate, though, him having tremendous heart and quite a chin in his own right. He nearly went down on a few occasions.

This all being said, since Wilder IS a threat Fury will be all-in, no messing about and taking it seriously. I've seen Fury many times look poorly or average, only to come back looking untouchable.

My only concern is that only an idiot would fight the same way they did the first time around, so Wilder certainly will try to be more patient and will be encouraged to incorporate body shots to set up the head shots.

Then again, if he drew with arguably the worst version of Fury, it's hard to imagine him having much success if Fury brings his A game and is in tip top shape, being faster than before and asserting more authority in the than just throwing jabs like the first fight--- he did have success in backing Wilder up and even hurting him, in the first fight, when he threw "one-two" punches, but Davison forced him to revert back to boxing safely.

The recent development of Joshua joining the Fury camp as basically head sparring partner, I think is greatly beneficial to Fury because the lighter, faster more mobile version of Joshua (who hits nearly as hard as Wilder) can only prepare Fury for any and all possible dangers Wilder may present.

Still, I would say this is a 50/50 proposition. For me, it's a fight that wasnt necessary to have been made, because most people thought Fury won the first fight to begin with. Why go over old ground? But I know that the demand is high and Fury must believe that he needs to beat Wilder in a shut-out, otherwise nobody will buy into a Fury-Joshua fight one hundred percent.

I'm with Fury all the way, but I will be honest it's more difficult to predict how this match will go than it was predicting the first fight. It'll be much more difficult for both men to look like anything. I think both men will nullify eachother and it'll literally come down to a round or two of action. So I think it'll be a majority decision, if not a split decision, for Tyson Fury--- because after all, the powers that be are already setting up a third fight, so expect some screwy scoring, even if Fury is the unanimous winner. When the words "split decision" is uttered, it'll make people pissed, and therefore sell the trilogy.

Jesus bless you all

HomicideHenry wrote: ↑30 Dec 2019, 02:15 The recent development of Joshua joining the Fury camp as basically head sparring partner, I think is greatly beneficial to Fury because the lighter, faster more mobile version of Joshua (who hits nearly as hard as Wilder) can only prepare Fury for any and all possible dangers Wilder may present.

Nobody actually believes this is going to happen do they?!