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margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 21:33 Ya I didn't think anyone was saying that, doggy boi is full of it

Never got swept away in the Ruiz love

Ironbeard was in love, but I think he may have been taking the piss.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:16 Already licked one Klit and would've humiliated Vitali

Humiliated Vitali? No way... Fury won against 39yo Wladimir who was much years after his prime. I'm not sure if he could beat Wlad in prime.

Vitali was a big stiff idiot with pillow fists, the Gypsy King beats him for sure

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 22:48 Vitali was a big stiff idiot with pillow fists, the Gypsy King beats him for sure

Careful Maggy, the bandwagon is getting full. Get ready to jump on the next one.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 22:48 Vitali was a big stiff idiot with pillow fists, the Gypsy King beats him for sure

Barely beat his long past prime brother.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 22:48 Vitali was a big stiff idiot with pillow fists, the Gypsy King beats him for sure

You know FA about boxing. Shut up.

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 22:48 Vitali was a big stiff idiot with pillow fists

87% KO ratio does not equal pillow fists!

TGK would've played with big stiff Vit, no klit could beat him

SteveO wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 14:02

margaret thatcher wrote: ↑28 Feb 2020, 22:48 Vitali was a big stiff idiot with pillow fists

87% KO ratio does not equal pillow fists!

Yeah, right, imo he was one of the greatest punchers.

franio wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 16:47

SteveO wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 14:02
87% KO ratio does not equal pillow fists!

Yeah, right, imo he was one of the greatest punchers.

Not even close.

There's some pretty mean Vitali revisionism going around. Vitali was a damn handful.

squiggy wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:34 There's some pretty mean Vitali revisionism going around. Vitali was a damn handful.

to who he fought maybe. His resume doesn't back up any hint of greatness.

squiggy wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:34 There's some pretty mean Vitali revisionism going around. Vitali was a damn handful.

Sure is, and yes, I think he was too. Never proved it in victory. Definitely wasn't a big puncher.

Not by resume, of course. (His resume's probably about on par with Deontay Wilder or Luis Ortiz.) I'm sayin' by eyeball test.

Yeah, I liked his style of aggressive boxing and ring generalship from the second the bell rang but I'm tired of excuses. He lost two fights that he should've won. Only a matter of time before he lost again to injury.

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:48

squiggy wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:34 There's some pretty mean Vitali revisionism going around. Vitali was a damn handful.

Sure is, and yes, I think he was too. Never proved it in victory. Definitely wasn't a big puncher.

He was a big puncher, or one punch puncher before his injuries. Nevertheless, 87% KO ratio impressive seeing after his injuries he mainly threw arm punches. I wouldn’t have like to have been taken apart by him.

Loki wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 05:11

Onetimeonly wrote: ↑29 Feb 2020, 18:48

Sure is, and yes, I think he was too. Never proved it in victory. Definitely wasn't a big puncher.

He was a big puncher, or one punch puncher before his injuries. Nevertheless, 87% KO ratio impressive seeing after his injuries he mainly threw arm punches. I wouldn’t have like to have been taken apart by him.

Ko% is useless. He was an arm puncher, big man that could still put a hurting on the low level fighters he faced, nobody that anyone with a chin has to be concerned with taking a shot by. He didn't punch as hard as holy field, who is lamented for lack of power.

Lewis KO'd Shannon Briggs, and has a lower KO% (72%) than VK. Vitali couldn't KO Shannon Briggs. How could that be?!

Vitaly was big enough puncher to hurt Lewis. Fury couldn't hurt many of his opponents. Maybe he started eating Mexican beef or it was just a lucky punch on the back of the head.

Vitali's resume is quite ordinary indeed. His brother faced the best possible, while Vitali got the remains. But as a fighter he was pretty good. Exactly as a fighter, not as a boxer, cause his overall skillset was limited. He had a great ability of using his size, solid jabs and ones twos, which alongside with his great chin made him an inconvinient opponent for many. And he wasn't neither a big puncher, nor pillow-fisted. He was a volume puncher with a bigger punching power, than regular volume punchers have.

Anyway, The Gypsy King would deal with him. Smater, faster, more versatile.

Lol what? Vitali's arsenal was pretty unique. Of couse the jab and one-two, which was better than Fury's, also had a short hook, uppercut, went to the body and could throw going backwards. Nothing in that says limited.

Fury just beat maybe the worst boxer in HW history, after almost getting KO'd, and let's be real, probably should've lost to Wallin. No way he fights much longer without getting a legit loss.

Duran1970 wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 19:43

DrDuke wrote: ↑23 Feb 2020, 15:19 One day Fury will become the best HW ever, but, yeah, right now Lennox is still edging.

Too bad Lennox isn't the best ever either

I think the OP probbaly means best 'British' HW ever.... which Lennox is

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 08:40 Lewis KO'd Shannon Briggs, and has a lower KO% (72%) than VK. Vitali couldn't KO Shannon Briggs. How could that be?!

Rly? it's very weak argument when you compare like this. So Vitali KO'd Levi Billups in 2nd round but Lewis couldn't KO Levi Billups. How could that be? So Kownacki is better puncher than Wilder because Wilder KO'd Szpilka in 9th round and Washington in 5th round but Kownacki did it much faster, KO'd Szpilka in 4th round and Washington in 2th round.

Anyone seriously suggesting that Vitali Klitschko was better than Lennox Lewis has lost the plot

franio wrote: ↑02 Mar 2020, 14:42

Bandog wrote: ↑01 Mar 2020, 08:40 Lewis KO'd Shannon Briggs, and has a lower KO% (72%) than VK. Vitali couldn't KO Shannon Briggs. How could that be?!

Rly? it's very weak argument when you compare like this. So Vitali KO'd Levi Billups in 2nd round but Lewis couldn't KO Levi Billups. How could that be? So Kownacki is better puncher than Wilder because Wilder KO'd Szpilka in 9th round and Washington in 5th round but Kownacki did it much faster, KO'd Szpilka in 4th round and Washington in 2th round.

I was sarcastically trying to make a point that KO percentages don't automatically equate to punching power, but see that point is beyond your comprehension. That's ok, carry on.